One home ground

[innsaneink]

Were just talking here.

Please remain civil.

Lotta childish crap here

'it is'
'isnt'

'It IS'
'ISNT'!!

 

[cochise]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

1.5 hrs ? Western suburbs ? To Liverpool ? Lol , unless you’re talking about public transport then that’s at best an exaggeration, or at worse a flat out lie .

It takes me 1 and a half hrs to drive to Penrith from the south coast , and used to take me 1.5 hrs to drive from the shire to Penrith .
And that was before they upgraded northern Rd.

For Thursday and Friday night games through Sydney Traffic, I can absolutely believe it could take at least 1.5hrs to get there. In peak hour alone it can take you up to 40-60 minutes just to get out of the CBD.

So how do you think people will go getting home from work and getting to the SFS?

 

[TigerWest]

South’s appear to be moving to the SFS from 2024. My guess is they have a similar distribution of fans to the Tigers ie legacy inner city boomers and growth in outer suburb members as people have moved for cheaper housing etc. it has probably also helped them that after being based in ANZ for 15yrs that have collected a broader geographic catchment. They are now doing the smart thing and taking all those fans to the best rugby league stadium in the world. They are an absolute powerhouse club.

Just wondering, if you come with a disclaimer?

Your thread name suggests you are someway involved with the SFS?

The SFS is probably a great ground, but not really central to West Tigers is it?

 

[diedpretty]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

What if they remove the Wests off the jersey. ?

Or get rid of the tiger and become Wests Bulldogs - nice ring to it.

 

[mike]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

1.5 hrs ? Western suburbs ? To Liverpool ? Lol , unless you’re talking about public transport then that’s at best an exaggeration, or at worse a flat out lie .

It takes me 1 and a half hrs to drive to Penrith from the south coast , and used to take me 1.5 hrs to drive from the shire to Penrith .
And that was before they upgraded northern Rd.

For Thursday and Friday night games through Sydney Traffic, I can absolutely believe it could take at least 1.5hrs to get there. In peak hour alone it can take you up to 40-60 minutes just to get out of the CBD.

So how do you think people will go getting home from work and getting to the SFS?

In peak hour, Public Transport if you are in the north of the CBD (tram goes right near by), walk or bus if you are south of the CBD near Central. Any other means they like of outside of the CBD. The Sydney Football Stadium is not in the CBD, but it easy to get to via public transport. Driving outside of the CBD to the SFS in peak hour, you would be opposite to the traffic leaving the area, so much easier.

 

[diedpretty]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

What if they remove the Wests off the jersey. ?

Then you wouldn't have a team at all people easily forget it's the Wests side of the merger that keeps the dream alive

Theyre talking about losing the Wests tigers from the emblem. Just having the tiger head.

Rubbish - and then you wake up.

 

[gallagher]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

What if they remove the Wests off the jersey. ?

Then you wouldn't have a team at all people easily forget it's the Wests side of the merger that keeps the dream alive

Theyre talking about losing the Wests tigers from the emblem. Just having the tiger head.


Rubbish - and then you wake up.

Just what I'm told. I don't like it.

 

[diedpretty]

I would hate to have 1 home ground, we should have 25 home grounds

I like this idea - however we only have 12 home games so it would be an argument on here which of the 25 grounds would get one of the home games. It would be better to have 12 home grounds - one for each home game and then travel to Tamworth on the bye weekend to mix with the locals.

 

[TigerTownSFS]

South’s appear to be moving to the SFS from 2024. My guess is they have a similar distribution of fans to the Tigers ie legacy inner city boomers and growth in outer suburb members as people have moved for cheaper housing etc. it has probably also helped them that after being based in ANZ for 15yrs that have collected a broader geographic catchment. They are now doing the smart thing and taking all those fans to the best rugby league stadium in the world. They are an absolute powerhouse club.

Just wondering, if you come with a disclaimer?

Your thread name suggests you are someway involved with the SFS?

The SFS is probably a great ground, but not really central to West Tigers is it?

Full disclaimer: I only became a member of the forum to start a petition to move the Tigers to one home ground at SFS 🙂 I can post my original argument around all the grounds if you like!

 

[TigerTownSFS]

South’s appear to be moving to the SFS from 2024. My guess is they have a similar distribution of fans to the Tigers ie legacy inner city boomers and growth in outer suburb members as people have moved for cheaper housing etc. it has probably also helped them that after being based in ANZ for 15yrs that have collected a broader geographic catchment. They are now doing the smart thing and taking all those fans to the best rugby league stadium in the world. They are an absolute powerhouse club.

Just wondering, if you come with a disclaimer?

Your thread name suggests you are someway involved with the SFS?

The SFS is probably a great ground, but not really central to West Tigers is it?

Full disclaimer: I only became a member of the forum to start a petition to move the Tigers to one home ground at SFS 🙂 I can post my original argument around all the grounds if you like!

Needs to be updated for the Liverpool option but I don’t think it changes my conclusion. If SFS is not selected then I would choose CSS:

Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster here. Whilst I know this is a passionate topic I am looking to post an idea and my reasoning on here not because I’m looking to change anyones minds but because I am trying to connect with people who might support my idea. I know there are a lot of strong and legitimate views on this topic and I’ve decided there is no perfect solution to our problem about having a single (or dominant) home ground but I wanted to lay out my thoughts and then see if anyone else agreed. As I see it we have 5 potential home grounds:

Leichhardt Oval
Campbelltown Sports Stadium
Bankwest
ANZ (as is)
SFS (redeveloped)
My thoughts on the topic are shaped by a few “binding constraints” being:

a) Like it or not our Club is owned by Wests Ashfield with limited (if any) control from Wests Campbelltown and Balmain. Ashfield is an inner city suburb (10km from Sydney CBD right on the trainline). Whilst I think Wests Ashfield are doing their best to accommodate the broader “Wests Tigers” family, the decision to base the COE at Concord is instructive that they don’t see themselves based in the greater south west of Sydney.
b) Any strategic decision around a permanent home must be made around that stadium’s ability to accommodate meaningful corporate facilities as the future of NRL clubs will be how to grow resourcing outside of the NRL/Leagues club funding model (think Souths, Bronco’s, Melbourne)
c) The stadium needs to be accessible to all fans and be able to comfortable accommodate a growing support base (a 30,00 seat stadium is probably the sweet spot).



Looking at the available options and the constraints above my view is:

Leichhardt Oval is not going to be redeveloped. It is a beautiful venue to watch rugba league and we should always play at least one Sunday afternoon heritage round at the oval but to meet my requirements above you would need to demolish and rebuild the North, South and Western stands. Even then I doubt there is enough room behind those stands to actually construct it and it would probably require the cutting down of the huge fig trees along the northern end and destruction of the small heritage stand at the souther end. I just can’t see this happening even before you start to think about how would this be paid for (100m+?), transport (middle of a suburb) and politics (Balmain’s home ground for Ashfield owner).

Campbelltown Sports Stadium. On paper a great idea. A huge untapped junior system to consolidate and an open license to create a new club that the NRL would never let go. You could probably convince the state government to build a brand new stadium to share with the new A League team and the Tigers could focus on becoming a Western Sydney force to rival the Panthers. The reality is however the owner of the club is situated in inner city Ashfield and whilst Wests Campbelltown is aligned it is a separate entity and has been for a long time. I can’t see how the owner of the club would set itself up 50km away and play out of stadium next door to different sports club (no matter how friendly). Unless Wests Ashfield and Campbelltown agreed to merge into one mega club and consolidate ownership and board I can’t see any owner making this choice. This is reinforced by the COE Concord decision. No matter how much sense it makes to stake our claim in the greater south west it just doesn’t seem like that will ever get through the politics and logic of who our owner is. Perhaps if there is a buyout of the club by a wealthy West Sydney syndicate that would work but if Wests Ashfield continues to want to own the club I cant see why they would setup base in Campbelltown. There is no doubt we should also play at least one heritage game at CSS.

Bankwest. Fantastic stadium. I wish we had a stadium like this in an area that made sense to us but the biggest mistake the state government made was allowing Parramatta to claim it as their own. With their Leagues club right next door they have really taken control of that stadium (most fans would probably call it Parramatta Stadium) and I just can’t see Wests Tigers be able to dent that dominant narrative considering the eels have played out of that venue for decades and have made it a fortress over the last 2 years. A Wests Tigers that play at Bankwest will always feel like a team the is surplus to requirements and I think it may even accelerate our demise/relocation. Compared to the Bulldogs who have a strong and unbroken identity/history, the history of Wests Tigers is complicated and new despite having such a rich past (in a way we have cleansed our history as a way to avoid the culture wars that erupted between Wests and Balmain post merger. The club can barely bring itself to mention players who existed prior to 2000). I can see the Bulldogs being able to survive even if they play at Bankwest, with Wests Tigers already feeling a bit on the outer I don’t think we can risk playing out of a dominant eels home ground. Fantastic stadium though.

ANZ Stadium. Not built for week to week club football. Reasonably central and has helped clubs like Souths grow their members but it clearly lacks atmosphere. I wouldnt be surprised if all clubs drop ANZ and its used only for Origin/GF.

Rebuilt SFS. At first glance it seems an awkward choice given that it is situated in the Eastern side of the CBD. These are the reasons why I think of all the choices it makes the most sense (out of several imperfect options).

a) It close to our owner. Only 10km from Wests Ashfield and easily accessible via public transport from Ashfield.
b) There is room to grow (45,000 capacity) but also room to have a more intimate game if needed. The details of the redevelopment highlighted that the upper decks could be shutoff with an LCD curtain such that only the lower bowl is occupied. For Sydney derby’s (Souths, Dragons, Bulldogs etc) these games could easily draw crowds 25k-35k that would make use of the bigger capacity and increase the economic return for the club (as home team).
c) The Corporate Facilities will be exceptional. This is a stadium designed for Rugby and the eastern Sydney crowd, it will be an experience that you can’t beat in Sydney (on par or better than Bankwest).
d) It is accessible for all of Sydney. The State Governments massive infrastructure investment is going to deliver clear access to Moore Park (the North West Metro already services the north west and will reach down to Bankstown in the south west, the Parramatta metro will link all the inner west into Central, the M8 and Westconnex will link up the road network all connecting through this edge of the CBD). This will mean that all of the Tigers diaspora will have viable ways to come together more regularly.

Of course there are downsides, the most obvious being that it will also be the Roosters home ground. In reality though I think this is very different to the issue with Bankwest because the Roosters are a very poorly supported club (at games) and their identity is really only linked to their ability to win competitions. I might be biased but I view Roosters supporters as really only around for the good times (granted a lot of good times recently). With Roosters having such a weak crowd support I think it will be much easier for Tigers to establish their own “identity” at the stadium and infact we could dominate the space because we have a much larger and more passionate supporter base.

I have been thinking about this issue for a while because I think everyone can recognise this is the last critical decision the club needs to make to really achieve its destiny and put to bed what has been a pretty difficult 20 years for supporters (punctured by a couple of years of absolute joy). Whilst I’m keen to hear others views I am more keen to find people who feel the same way and are willing to sign this petition I setup in order to try and give some visibility to this idea. If you agree please sign the attached petition and forward to Facebook/Instagram/Twitter etc as I dont have a presence there so have no reach.

Link:

http://chng.it/VKRysDPdRX

 

[mike]

South’s appear to be moving to the SFS from 2024. My guess is they have a similar distribution of fans to the Tigers ie legacy inner city boomers and growth in outer suburb members as people have moved for cheaper housing etc. it has probably also helped them that after being based in ANZ for 15yrs that have collected a broader geographic catchment. They are now doing the smart thing and taking all those fans to the best rugby league stadium in the world. They are an absolute powerhouse club.

Just wondering, if you come with a disclaimer?

Your thread name suggests you are someway involved with the SFS?

The SFS is probably a great ground, but not really central to West Tigers is it?

Full disclaimer: I only became a member of the forum to start a petition to move the Tigers to one home ground at SFS 🙂 I can post my original argument around all the grounds if you like!

Needs to be updated for the Liverpool option but I don’t think it changes my conclusion. If SFS is not selected then I would choose CSS:

Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster here. Whilst I know this is a passionate topic I am looking to post an idea and my reasoning on here not because I’m looking to change anyones minds but because I am trying to connect with people who might support my idea. I know there are a lot of strong and legitimate views on this topic and I’ve decided there is no perfect solution to our problem about having a single (or dominant) home ground but I wanted to lay out my thoughts and then see if anyone else agreed. As I see it we have 5 potential home grounds:

Leichhardt Oval
Campbelltown Sports Stadium
Bankwest
ANZ (as is)
SFS (redeveloped)
My thoughts on the topic are shaped by a few “binding constraints” being:

a) Like it or not our Club is owned by Wests Ashfield with limited (if any) control from Wests Campbelltown and Balmain. Ashfield is an inner city suburb (10km from Sydney CBD right on the trainline). Whilst I think Wests Ashfield are doing their best to accommodate the broader “Wests Tigers” family, the decision to base the COE at Concord is instructive that they don’t see themselves based in the greater south west of Sydney.
b) Any strategic decision around a permanent home must be made around that stadium’s ability to accommodate meaningful corporate facilities as the future of NRL clubs will be how to grow resourcing outside of the NRL/Leagues club funding model (think Souths, Bronco’s, Melbourne)
c) The stadium needs to be accessible to all fans and be able to comfortable accommodate a growing support base (a 30,00 seat stadium is probably the sweet spot).



Looking at the available options and the constraints above my view is:

Leichhardt Oval is not going to be redeveloped. It is a beautiful venue to watch rugba league and we should always play at least one Sunday afternoon heritage round at the oval but to meet my requirements above you would need to demolish and rebuild the North, South and Western stands. Even then I doubt there is enough room behind those stands to actually construct it and it would probably require the cutting down of the huge fig trees along the northern end and destruction of the small heritage stand at the souther end. I just can’t see this happening even before you start to think about how would this be paid for (100m+?), transport (middle of a suburb) and politics (Balmain’s home ground for Ashfield owner).

Campbelltown Sports Stadium. On paper a great idea. A huge untapped junior system to consolidate and an open license to create a new club that the NRL would never let go. You could probably convince the state government to build a brand new stadium to share with the new A League team and the Tigers could focus on becoming a Western Sydney force to rival the Panthers. The reality is however the owner of the club is situated in inner city Ashfield and whilst Wests Campbelltown is aligned it is a separate entity and has been for a long time. I can’t see how the owner of the club would set itself up 50km away and play out of stadium next door to different sports club (no matter how friendly). Unless Wests Ashfield and Campbelltown agreed to merge into one mega club and consolidate ownership and board I can’t see any owner making this choice. This is reinforced by the COE Concord decision. No matter how much sense it makes to stake our claim in the greater south west it just doesn’t seem like that will ever get through the politics and logic of who our owner is. Perhaps if there is a buyout of the club by a wealthy West Sydney syndicate that would work but if Wests Ashfield continues to want to own the club I cant see why they would setup base in Campbelltown. There is no doubt we should also play at least one heritage game at CSS.

Bankwest. Fantastic stadium. I wish we had a stadium like this in an area that made sense to us but the biggest mistake the state government made was allowing Parramatta to claim it as their own. With their Leagues club right next door they have really taken control of that stadium (most fans would probably call it Parramatta Stadium) and I just can’t see Wests Tigers be able to dent that dominant narrative considering the eels have played out of that venue for decades and have made it a fortress over the last 2 years. A Wests Tigers that play at Bankwest will always feel like a team the is surplus to requirements and I think it may even accelerate our demise/relocation. Compared to the Bulldogs who have a strong and unbroken identity/history, the history of Wests Tigers is complicated and new despite having such a rich past (in a way we have cleansed our history as a way to avoid the culture wars that erupted between Wests and Balmain post merger. The club can barely bring itself to mention players who existed prior to 2000). I can see the Bulldogs being able to survive even if they play at Bankwest, with Wests Tigers already feeling a bit on the outer I don’t think we can risk playing out of a dominant eels home ground. Fantastic stadium though.

ANZ Stadium. Not built for week to week club football. Reasonably central and has helped clubs like Souths grow their members but it clearly lacks atmosphere. I wouldnt be surprised if all clubs drop ANZ and its used only for Origin/GF.

Rebuilt SFS. At first glance it seems an awkward choice given that it is situated in the Eastern side of the CBD. These are the reasons why I think of all the choices it makes the most sense (out of several imperfect options).

a) It close to our owner. Only 10km from Wests Ashfield and easily accessible via public transport from Ashfield.
b) There is room to grow (45,000 capacity) but also room to have a more intimate game if needed. The details of the redevelopment highlighted that the upper decks could be shutoff with an LCD curtain such that only the lower bowl is occupied. For Sydney derby’s (Souths, Dragons, Bulldogs etc) these games could easily draw crowds 25k-35k that would make use of the bigger capacity and increase the economic return for the club (as home team).
c) The Corporate Facilities will be exceptional. This is a stadium designed for Rugby and the eastern Sydney crowd, it will be an experience that you can’t beat in Sydney (on par or better than Bankwest).
d) It is accessible for all of Sydney. The State Governments massive infrastructure investment is going to deliver clear access to Moore Park (the North West Metro already services the north west and will reach down to Bankstown in the south west, the Parramatta metro will link all the inner west into Central, the M8 and Westconnex will link up the road network all connecting through this edge of the CBD). This will mean that all of the Tigers diaspora will have viable ways to come together more regularly.

Of course there are downsides, the most obvious being that it will also be the Roosters home ground. In reality though I think this is very different to the issue with Bankwest because the Roosters are a very poorly supported club (at games) and their identity is really only linked to their ability to win competitions. I might be biased but I view Roosters supporters as really only around for the good times (granted a lot of good times recently). With Roosters having such a weak crowd support I think it will be much easier for Tigers to establish their own “identity” at the stadium and infact we could dominate the space because we have a much larger and more passionate supporter base.

I have been thinking about this issue for a while because I think everyone can recognise this is the last critical decision the club needs to make to really achieve its destiny and put to bed what has been a pretty difficult 20 years for supporters (punctured by a couple of years of absolute joy). Whilst I’m keen to hear others views I am more keen to find people who feel the same way and are willing to sign this petition I setup in order to try and give some visibility to this idea. If you agree please sign the attached petition and forward to Facebook/Instagram/Twitter etc as I dont have a presence there so have no reach.

Link:

http://chng.it/VKRysDPdRX

Signed and tweeted

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I thought Greenberg was bad, but Vlandys now proven he’s completely out of touch.

Why would you spend 30 million+ on a stadium in Liverpool when you have BankWest. Upgrade our local home grounds, they foster tribal fans who are passionate about their team and ultimately develop the next generation of juniors.

Leichhardt was the 1st ground mentioned when this was 1st discussed. The mayor of Leichhardt responded with something like new seats would be good.

The local council has a lot to answer for. Basically they really don’t want a larger or better Stadium in Leichhardt. They would never get local residents approval. It would be a fight to destruction, just like the Balmain Leagues redevelopment was.

The old die-hards of Balmain the working class people have been replaced by Greenies and Nimbys and these days the Council would need to be on a course of Laxatives to get anything passed in regard to a Stadium.
That's why we need to look to greener pastures to insure the success of WT'S.


or just register for a political party. 100 people shouldn't decide our fate

Sadly the minority seem to have all the power these day.We could start a BLM movement
BALMAIN LIVES MATTER

 

[hugh1954]

South’s appear to be moving to the SFS from 2024. My guess is they have a similar distribution of fans to the Tigers ie legacy inner city boomers and growth in outer suburb members as people have moved for cheaper housing etc. it has probably also helped them that after being based in ANZ for 15yrs that have collected a broader geographic catchment. They are now doing the smart thing and taking all those fans to the best rugby league stadium in the world. They are an absolute powerhouse club.

Just wondering, if you come with a disclaimer?

Your thread name suggests you are someway involved with the SFS?

The SFS is probably a great ground, but not really central to West Tigers is it?

Full disclaimer: I only became a member of the forum to start a petition to move the Tigers to one home ground at SFS 🙂 I can post my original argument around all the grounds if you like!

Needs to be updated for the Liverpool option but I don’t think it changes my conclusion. If SFS is not selected then I would choose CSS:

Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster here. Whilst I know this is a passionate topic I am looking to post an idea and my reasoning on here not because I’m looking to change anyones minds but because I am trying to connect with people who might support my idea. I know there are a lot of strong and legitimate views on this topic and I’ve decided there is no perfect solution to our problem about having a single (or dominant) home ground but I wanted to lay out my thoughts and then see if anyone else agreed. As I see it we have 5 potential home grounds:

Leichhardt Oval
Campbelltown Sports Stadium
Bankwest
ANZ (as is)
SFS (redeveloped)
My thoughts on the topic are shaped by a few “binding constraints” being:

a) Like it or not our Club is owned by Wests Ashfield with limited (if any) control from Wests Campbelltown and Balmain. Ashfield is an inner city suburb (10km from Sydney CBD right on the trainline). Whilst I think Wests Ashfield are doing their best to accommodate the broader “Wests Tigers” family, the decision to base the COE at Concord is instructive that they don’t see themselves based in the greater south west of Sydney.
b) Any strategic decision around a permanent home must be made around that stadium’s ability to accommodate meaningful corporate facilities as the future of NRL clubs will be how to grow resourcing outside of the NRL/Leagues club funding model (think Souths, Bronco’s, Melbourne)
c) The stadium needs to be accessible to all fans and be able to comfortable accommodate a growing support base (a 30,00 seat stadium is probably the sweet spot).



Looking at the available options and the constraints above my view is:

Leichhardt Oval is not going to be redeveloped. It is a beautiful venue to watch rugba league and we should always play at least one Sunday afternoon heritage round at the oval but to meet my requirements above you would need to demolish and rebuild the North, South and Western stands. Even then I doubt there is enough room behind those stands to actually construct it and it would probably require the cutting down of the huge fig trees along the northern end and destruction of the small heritage stand at the souther end. I just can’t see this happening even before you start to think about how would this be paid for (100m+?), transport (middle of a suburb) and politics (Balmain’s home ground for Ashfield owner).

Campbelltown Sports Stadium. On paper a great idea. A huge untapped junior system to consolidate and an open license to create a new club that the NRL would never let go. You could probably convince the state government to build a brand new stadium to share with the new A League team and the Tigers could focus on becoming a Western Sydney force to rival the Panthers. The reality is however the owner of the club is situated in inner city Ashfield and whilst Wests Campbelltown is aligned it is a separate entity and has been for a long time. I can’t see how the owner of the club would set itself up 50km away and play out of stadium next door to different sports club (no matter how friendly). Unless Wests Ashfield and Campbelltown agreed to merge into one mega club and consolidate ownership and board I can’t see any owner making this choice. This is reinforced by the COE Concord decision. No matter how much sense it makes to stake our claim in the greater south west it just doesn’t seem like that will ever get through the politics and logic of who our owner is. Perhaps if there is a buyout of the club by a wealthy West Sydney syndicate that would work but if Wests Ashfield continues to want to own the club I cant see why they would setup base in Campbelltown. There is no doubt we should also play at least one heritage game at CSS.

Bankwest. Fantastic stadium. I wish we had a stadium like this in an area that made sense to us but the biggest mistake the state government made was allowing Parramatta to claim it as their own. With their Leagues club right next door they have really taken control of that stadium (most fans would probably call it Parramatta Stadium) and I just can’t see Wests Tigers be able to dent that dominant narrative considering the eels have played out of that venue for decades and have made it a fortress over the last 2 years. A Wests Tigers that play at Bankwest will always feel like a team the is surplus to requirements and I think it may even accelerate our demise/relocation. Compared to the Bulldogs who have a strong and unbroken identity/history, the history of Wests Tigers is complicated and new despite having such a rich past (in a way we have cleansed our history as a way to avoid the culture wars that erupted between Wests and Balmain post merger. The club can barely bring itself to mention players who existed prior to 2000). I can see the Bulldogs being able to survive even if they play at Bankwest, with Wests Tigers already feeling a bit on the outer I don’t think we can risk playing out of a dominant eels home ground. Fantastic stadium though.

ANZ Stadium. Not built for week to week club football. Reasonably central and has helped clubs like Souths grow their members but it clearly lacks atmosphere. I wouldnt be surprised if all clubs drop ANZ and its used only for Origin/GF.

Rebuilt SFS. At first glance it seems an awkward choice given that it is situated in the Eastern side of the CBD. These are the reasons why I think of all the choices it makes the most sense (out of several imperfect options).

a) It close to our owner. Only 10km from Wests Ashfield and easily accessible via public transport from Ashfield.
b) There is room to grow (45,000 capacity) but also room to have a more intimate game if needed. The details of the redevelopment highlighted that the upper decks could be shutoff with an LCD curtain such that only the lower bowl is occupied. For Sydney derby’s (Souths, Dragons, Bulldogs etc) these games could easily draw crowds 25k-35k that would make use of the bigger capacity and increase the economic return for the club (as home team).
c) The Corporate Facilities will be exceptional. This is a stadium designed for Rugby and the eastern Sydney crowd, it will be an experience that you can’t beat in Sydney (on par or better than Bankwest).
d) It is accessible for all of Sydney. The State Governments massive infrastructure investment is going to deliver clear access to Moore Park (the North West Metro already services the north west and will reach down to Bankstown in the south west, the Parramatta metro will link all the inner west into Central, the M8 and Westconnex will link up the road network all connecting through this edge of the CBD). This will mean that all of the Tigers diaspora will have viable ways to come together more regularly.

Of course there are downsides, the most obvious being that it will also be the Roosters home ground. In reality though I think this is very different to the issue with Bankwest because the Roosters are a very poorly supported club (at games) and their identity is really only linked to their ability to win competitions. I might be biased but I view Roosters supporters as really only around for the good times (granted a lot of good times recently). With Roosters having such a weak crowd support I think it will be much easier for Tigers to establish their own “identity” at the stadium and infact we could dominate the space because we have a much larger and more passionate supporter base.

I have been thinking about this issue for a while because I think everyone can recognise this is the last critical decision the club needs to make to really achieve its destiny and put to bed what has been a pretty difficult 20 years for supporters (punctured by a couple of years of absolute joy). Whilst I’m keen to hear others views I am more keen to find people who feel the same way and are willing to sign this petition I setup in order to try and give some visibility to this idea. If you agree please sign the attached petition and forward to Facebook/Instagram/Twitter etc as I dont have a presence there so have no reach.

Link:

http://chng.it/VKRysDPdRX

Signed and tweeted

I may be completely selfish BUT I would like to have a Home ground that is excess able to people outside the sydney area especially when most games are at night now. I find it very difficult to attend games that you need to catch 3 trains to get to a game

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

1.5 hrs ? Western suburbs ? To Liverpool ? Lol , unless you’re talking about public transport then that’s at best an exaggeration, or at worse a flat out lie .

It takes me 1 and a half hrs to drive to Penrith from the south coast , and used to take me 1.5 hrs to drive from the shire to Penrith .
And that was before they upgraded northern Rd.

For Thursday and Friday night games through Sydney Traffic, I can absolutely believe it could take at least 1.5hrs to get there. In peak hour alone it can take you up to 40-60 minutes just to get out of the CBD.

He didn’t say that though . He said western suburbs to Liverpool . And I call BS and excuse making . I drive around Sydney all the time at all times of day , and even at its worst there’s no portion of western Sydney that will take you 1.5 hrs to get to Liverpool .
Actually I lie , there was once . When there was accident in every major corridor out of the city . And it took me 2.5 hrs to get from Richmond to the shire . That was 10 years ago.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

 

[mike]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

Never said it wasn’t but juniors are irrelevant. There will be crickets attending home games in Liverpool. Liverpool CBD will also be plastered with Bulldogs strip. The stadium itself will have Mortimer and Price stands. It’s Bulldogs territory.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

Never said it wasn’t but juniors are irrelevant. There will be crickets attending home games in Liverpool. Liverpool CBD will also be plastered with Bulldogs strip. The stadium itself will have Mortimer and Price stands. It’s Bulldogs territory.

That’s absolute hyperbole . And garbage . If it’s built in Liverpool it’s our stadium . Everything you’re saying is based on a perception from 10 years ago .and it’s ? based on ethnicity , and demographics. What you’ll actually find in Liverpool is a whole lot of refugees, new Australians and immigrants ,people not engaged in RL at all . If anything there’s an opportunity to engage a community not affiliated with anyone , other than the fact that 20 minutes up Canterbury Rd , there’s a team who has a high supporter based who have a background from a similar part of the Middle East . That’s about it .
But you believe whatever you want . I’ve had multiple disagreements with you , and one through line always exists . Your arguments are all driven by self interest . Which is ironic because all the problems with Balmain began by people making decisions that served themselves , and the clubs prosperity was either a byproduct , or completely non existent because of this .
It’s no wonder this type of thinking still exists in the Wests tigers .
It’s so frustrating to see .
I honestly don’t care if it’s Liverpool , I just know C town isn’t the answer and neither is the 8th wonder . We need a stadium for ourselves , and halfway between C town and Belmore, whilst still actually being located in our catchment , near public transport , with a T way to Parra , a train station with multiple train lines , and the m5 very close , with the m7 , 10 minutes away , seems like a fairly good solution .

 

[mike]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

Never said it wasn’t but juniors are irrelevant. There will be crickets attending home games in Liverpool. Liverpool CBD will also be plastered with Bulldogs strip. The stadium itself will have Mortimer and Price stands. It’s Bulldogs territory.

**That’s absolute hyperbole . And garbage . If it’s built in Liverpool it’s our stadium** . Everything you’re saying is based on a perception from 10 years ago .and it’s ? based on ethnicity , and demographics. What you’ll actually find in Liverpool is a whole lot of refugees, new Australians and immigrants ,people not engaged in RL at all . If anything there’s an opportunity to engage a community not affiliated with anyone , other than the fact that 20 minutes up Canterbury Rd , there’s a team who has a high supporter based who have a background from a similar part of the Middle East . That’s about it .
But you believe whatever you want . I’ve had multiple disagreements with you , and one through line always exists . Your arguments are all driven by self interest . Which is ironic because all the problems with Balmain began by people making decisions that served themselves , and the clubs prosperity was either a byproduct , or completely non existent because of this .
It’s no wonder this type of thinking still exists in the Wests tigers .
It’s so frustrating to see .
I honestly don’t care if it’s Liverpool , I just know C town isn’t the answer and neither is the 8th wonder . We need a stadium for ourselves , and halfway between C town and Belmore, whilst still actually being located in our catchment , near public transport , with a T way to Parra , a train station with multiple train lines , and the m5 very close , with the m7 , 10 minutes away , seems like a fairly good solution .

Just like BankWest is our home ground. Yeah right.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

Never said it wasn’t but juniors are irrelevant. There will be crickets attending home games in Liverpool. Liverpool CBD will also be plastered with Bulldogs strip. The stadium itself will have Mortimer and Price stands. It’s Bulldogs territory.

**That’s absolute hyperbole . And garbage . If it’s built in Liverpool it’s our stadium** . Everything you’re saying is based on a perception from 10 years ago .and it’s ? based on ethnicity , and demographics. What you’ll actually find in Liverpool is a whole lot of refugees, new Australians and immigrants ,people not engaged in RL at all . If anything there’s an opportunity to engage a community not affiliated with anyone , other than the fact that 20 minutes up Canterbury Rd , there’s a team who has a high supporter based who have a background from a similar part of the Middle East . That’s about it .
But you believe whatever you want . I’ve had multiple disagreements with you , and one through line always exists . Your arguments are all driven by self interest . Which is ironic because all the problems with Balmain began by people making decisions that served themselves , and the clubs prosperity was either a byproduct , or completely non existent because of this .
It’s no wonder this type of thinking still exists in the Wests tigers .
It’s so frustrating to see .
I honestly don’t care if it’s Liverpool , I just know C town isn’t the answer and neither is the 8th wonder . We need a stadium for ourselves , and halfway between C town and Belmore, whilst still actually being located in our catchment , near public transport , with a T way to Parra , a train station with multiple train lines , and the m5 very close , with the m7 , 10 minutes away , seems like a fairly good solution .

Just like BankWest is our home ground. Yeah right.

Bankwest was built on the remains of Parra stadium in PARRAMATTA!!!!! The fact we tried , for the second time mind you, to move there is a joke. Other than money it was never going to work . It was built for the eels and wanderers . BUILT FOR THEM!!! We tagged along later , when the trust wanted to make more money with more games so paid us to play there . It was a money grab .
Liverpool is a brand new stadium , that could be purpose built for us and the dogs . We could have 2 stadiums each . It would be no different to many other leagues around the world , including the AFL , right here , who have teams share stadiums .

 

[TigerTownSFS]

So we could be forced to share a ground in another teams region just like at Wankbest while Penrith, Brookvale and Kogarah get upgrades
V’landys is a Wanker ..

Liverpool is Tiger territory.

It’s Bulldogs territory. The Bulldogs know it and more importantly the NRL knows it. Liverpool is the Bulldogs takeover v2.0.

Uhh no it isn’t. Where the stadium would be, on the corner of Hoxton Park road and the Hume Highway, that’s in Tiger territory. Dogs territory starts when you go over the bridge on Newbridge road, down towards Mororebank.

Makes no difference, it’s Bulldogs territory. They know it and so does the NRL.

I don’t give a toss what they think they know. Junior teams in Liverpool fall under the Tigers banner. That’s all that matters.

It has nothing todo with juniors, it’s the fans that count. Liverpool will have crickets at home games.

Like Bankwest...?

Declining attendance at BankWest @ Wests Tigers home games. BankWest is getting close.

I say again , what is your solution ?

At this stage it’s SFS. Fairly neutral area. You won’t be bombarded with Roosters stuff like you are with Parra stuff at BankWest, which happens regardless of who we play at BankWest. The Roosters are no threat to the Wests Tigers in regards to possible merger/takeover, unlike the Bulldogs and Liverpool. SFS has good easy to access central transport with parking at Moore Park when needed. Close to great food and drink. Closer to Headquarters (Wests Ashfield) and COE (Concord). Easy to get to from for out of towners as well via the Airport or Central Station if they want to attend with great accommodation nearby.

A revamped ANZ would have been ideal but that’s not going to happen for the foreseeable future. Can’t see CSS being redeveloped either. So SFS it is.

It is not in our area, we would likely be sharing with 2 other teams and it makes no sense. People complain about a lack of identity but then want to be a team called Wests playing in the Eastern Suburbs.

Because they live in the inner suburbs , and really they want the team close to them for convenience . It has absolutely nothing to do with what’s best for the club .

I live in the Western suburbs and will take an 1.5 hrs to get there by public transport .. 98% of supporters would need to travel .The clubs 2 main facilities are situated in the inner west !

The SFS isn't in the inner west?

It’s not on Bondi Beach either, but it’s easier to get to for most than Liverpool.

For most?

It it closer to Bondi Beach than it is to Concord Oval.

And your point is? Are you saying Liverpool is closer to Concord or Ashfield?

Once again ,Liverpool is in our catchment . Whether you think it’s dogs territory or not . It’s in our catchment

Melbourne’s catchment is in Queensland…. I get that in a traditional sense it would be great to own a geographic region and have that identity but the JV has meant we have not had that. Just invest the money in the pathways and look after the juniors in those areas and make that as professional and successful as possible (which seems to be what the club is doing now).

Then the senior team can train at concord nearer to where players want to live (but is also very accessible by motorway to most of the city) and play your games at the best rugby league stadium in the world. I don’t really get the “Friday night” argument that the SFS is a bad option. The vast majority of tigers fans don’t go to the actual game and having a better located stadium for all fans means that you can pick the version of a home game that suits you best. Sometimes it might be a Friday night game after work for those near the city and sometimes it might be a Sunday afternoon game with kids and more relaxed. To run the argument in reverse, I would never be able to make a friday night game in Campbelltown so does that make it an unviable option?

On the whole “wests” can’t play in the east argument, it’s just semantics. 95% of fans are just watching a tv product. I’d love to see the clubs data on where fans/members live but my guess is SFS is quicker to travel to than Campbelltown or Liverpool.