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I don't see what they got out of it at all...V'Landy's stated early on no full time ref would lose their job..none didn't no refs were going to the scrapheap..though a few of them should...Stated there would be 1 ref new rules when the comp resumes ..that's happening..

The only difference is now it has been stated it is a trial and will be reviewed at the completion of the season...

Hello this happens every season in the committees..

It was all a bit more Drama mainly on the refs part ..how do I know this..because to quote the Ref's commissioner using his own words..We always said that the game will go ahead next week, and it will, that’s what we always wanted.

What a victory for them..woooooo
 
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1151031) said:
I don't see what they got out of it at all...V'Landy's stated early on no full time ref would lose their job..none didn't no refs were going to the scrapheap..though a few of them should...Stated there would be 1 ref new rules when the comp resumes ..that's happening..

The only difference is now it has been stated it is a trial and will be reviewed at the completion of the season...

Hello this happens every season in the committees..

It was all a bit more Drama mainly on the refs part ..how do I know this..because to quote the Ref's commissioner using his own words..We always said that the game will go ahead next week, and it will, that’s what we always wanted.

What a victory for them..woooooo

Agree 100% mate, it was almost like they were just trying to get in the media for a little bit to show they are important. When push came to shove they folded.
 
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1151035) said:
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1151031) said:
I don't see what they got out of it at all...V'Landy's stated early on no full time ref would lose their job..none didn't no refs were going to the scrapheap..though a few of them should...Stated there would be 1 ref new rules when the comp resumes ..that's happening..

The only difference is now it has been stated it is a trial and will be reviewed at the completion of the season...

Hello this happens every season in the committees..

It was all a bit more Drama mainly on the refs part ..how do I know this..because to quote the Ref's commissioner using his own words..We always said that the game will go ahead next week, and it will, that’s what we always wanted.

What a victory for them..woooooo

Agree 100% mate, it was almost like they were just trying to get in the media for a little bit to show they are important. When push came to shove they folded.

That's all it was. Just like the Qld premier wanting to big note herself by saying the game cant resume without her permission.

These knobs just need to get out of the way.
 
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).
 
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1151047) said:
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).

Commentators are the worst, they constantly are super critical of the refs when they don’t even understand the rules properly.

I mean someone like Joey is a great footy mind, but he thinks knock ons should only count if you can see them in real time, he doesn’t like it if you have to see them in slow motion. It’s laughable really 😂
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1151054) said:
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1151047) said:
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).

Commentators are the worst, they constantly are super critical of the refs when they don’t even understand the rules properly.

I mean someone like Joey is a great footy mind, but he thinks knock ons should only count if you can see them in real time, he doesn’t like it if you have to see them in slow motion. It’s laughable really ?

The rubbish we had with the obstruction rule was a direct result of Gould, at some point he even changed his own interpretation of what an obstruction is.
 
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1151055) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1151054) said:
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1151047) said:
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).

Commentators are the worst, they constantly are super critical of the refs when they don’t even understand the rules properly.

I mean someone like Joey is a great footy mind, but he thinks knock ons should only count if you can see them in real time, he doesn’t like it if you have to see them in slow motion. It’s laughable really ?

The rubbish we had with the obstruction rule was a direct result of Gould, at some point he even changed his own interpretation of what an obstruction is.

I blame Gould for the constant backchat and disrespect for the refs we have now. If you go back to 2005/06 and listen to some his comments when the refs pulls up that obnoxious behaviour, “You can give a penalty for that”, you’ll see why it is such a mess now.
 
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1151063) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1151055) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1151054) said:
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1151047) said:
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).

Commentators are the worst, they constantly are super critical of the refs when they don’t even understand the rules properly.

I mean someone like Joey is a great footy mind, but he thinks knock ons should only count if you can see them in real time, he doesn’t like it if you have to see them in slow motion. It’s laughable really ?

The rubbish we had with the obstruction rule was a direct result of Gould, at some point he even changed his own interpretation of what an obstruction is.

I blame Gould for the constant backchat and disrespect for the refs we have now. If you go back to 2005/06 and listen to some his comments when the refs pulls up that obnoxious behaviour, “You can give a penalty for that”, you’ll see why it is such a mess now.

I clearly remember him complaining about a Gasnier try in the early 2000 by stating that a defender should never ever even have to consider that a player might run behind another player. That at some point changed to the defender made a poor defensive read.
 
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1151064) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1151063) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1151055) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1151054) said:
@tiger_one said in [One ref](/post/1151047) said:
https://www.nrl.com/operations/the-officials/referees/

Looking down that list, there's a mix of the more prominent /main refs and the others - such an apparent difference in ability based on games I've seen.
Without going over the pros and cons of 1 referee v. 2 referees, I am admittedly old school and always thought that the one ref system was OK, and if the bunker system was clear in its purpose, the players and fans would better understand rulings and adjudications etc.
Players do their thing - play the game with the rules of the game.
Refs also do their thing - adjudicating along consistent lines.

The funny thing to me (apart from who's in charge) is the influence of the match commentators - they often override refs' decisions and give their "learned" interpretations as if they know everything - even when I've known their views are wrong (at times).

Commentators are the worst, they constantly are super critical of the refs when they don’t even understand the rules properly.

I mean someone like Joey is a great footy mind, but he thinks knock ons should only count if you can see them in real time, he doesn’t like it if you have to see them in slow motion. It’s laughable really ?

The rubbish we had with the obstruction rule was a direct result of Gould, at some point he even changed his own interpretation of what an obstruction is.

I blame Gould for the constant backchat and disrespect for the refs we have now. If you go back to 2005/06 and listen to some his comments when the refs pulls up that obnoxious behaviour, “You can give a penalty for that”, you’ll see why it is such a mess now.

I clearly remember him complaining about a Gasnier try in the early 2000 by stating that a defender should never ever even have to consider that a player might run behind another player. That at some point changed to the defender made a poor defensive read.

Yep. A total tool when it comes to the rules, and has cause massive damage to the game in that regard.
 
Would really love to see the refs assert some real authority this year. They just get walked over at the moment. It's probably hard for weedy blokes like Sutton, Cecchin, Badger etc to be taken seriously as authoritive, no-nonsense figures though in all seriousness.
Would hate to be a park-footy ref these days, imagine the abuse and disrespect they must cop from players due to the example that the NRL is setting. The NRL need to be more serious in setting a strong example IMO.
 
Glad to see one decision maker decided upon for at least this season and as for the recent discussion, if one wants to send decoy runners into the opposition line, it should always be at the attacks peril if they run behind another.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [One ref](/post/1150990) said:
@gallagher said in [One ref](/post/1150915) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150898) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150895) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150894) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150891) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150890) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150887) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150886) said:
Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

I think they showed that they weren't willing to go to court.

That's a stupid comment again. From my understanding the "collective" efforts of the Refs Association has secured some payment from the NRL for their staff who won't be employed in the re-structured competition. That is, those who V'Landys was prepared to send to the scrap heap.

The capitulation has been by V'Landys. He did not want the media scurtinising his autocratic and chaotic leadership armed with the findings of a Commissioner.

The refs have had a win here, for their colleagues. That;s what organised labour achieves. And, good on them for standing up to V'Landys.

Hope the Tigers stand up to their opposition better than the Refs stood up to V'Landys, or we will never get the two points each week.
 
Gavin Badger has been demoted to running the line the last 2 weeks. I'm enjoying this a little more than I should. Just another positive about going back to 1 referee.

https://youtu.be/qcwwSs68SSA
 
Still loving the one ref.
Coupled with the 6-again rule hange, there are fewer stoppages, less player interruptions/delays, and fewer injuries.
 
Best thing about the 1 ref thing is the game so fast you dont have time to focus on bad calls or 50 50 calls. Better for the spectator's and better for the refs
 
Further changes to the six-again rule.

“referees now allowed to restart the tackle count immediately if markers are not square as opposed to blowing a penalty”
 
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1172251) said:
Further changes to the six-again rule.

“referees now allowed to restart the tackle count immediately if markers are not square as opposed to blowing a penalty”

I'm not a fan of changes to a rules system in the middle of a season. It's quite unfair to have rules for a part of the season and not another.

That said, this is an extension of a great rule. Anything to make the game faster.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [One ref](/post/1172260) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1172251) said:
Further changes to the six-again rule.

“referees now allowed to restart the tackle count immediately if markers are not square as opposed to blowing a penalty”

I'm not a fan of changes to a rules system in the middle of a season. It's quite unfair to have rules for a part of the season and not another.

That said, this is an extension of a great rule. Anything to make the game faster.

I dont mind if they are subtle changes that hamper the coaches exploiting loop holes.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [One ref](/post/1172260) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1172251) said:
Further changes to the six-again rule.

“referees now allowed to restart the tackle count immediately if markers are not square as opposed to blowing a penalty”

I'm not a fan of changes to a rules system in the middle of a season. It's quite unfair to have rules for a part of the season and not another.

That said, this is an extension of a great rule. Anything to make the game faster.


I don't see how a rule change that affects everyone is unfair.
 
@rihannafan1 said in [One ref](/post/1172260) said:
@mike said in [One ref](/post/1172251) said:
Further changes to the six-again rule.

“referees now allowed to restart the tackle count immediately if markers are not square as opposed to blowing a penalty”

I'm not a fan of changes to a rules system in the middle of a season. It's quite unfair to have rules for a part of the season and not another.

That said, this is an extension of a great rule. Anything to make the game faster.

It’s not really a rule change as such, after all not being square is an infringement now. It is how they have implemented the punishment for the rule infringement that is changing.

I’m all for it.
 

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