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@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150307) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150305) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150304) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150302) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150296) said:
Players should get the choice if they want 6 again or a penalty ...you get 5 seconds to make a call

I don't want a ref making the call for my side whether they think a penalty or 6 again is the better call

That completely defeats the purpose of the rule.

And having refs make calls for your rugby league team is completely (insert swear word ) mental

I can see it now.... storm are winning 17-16, there’s a minute on the clock, there’s a ruck infringement right in front of the posts and the ref calls 6 again instead of a penalty and a gift two points, tigers lose. Fans would go absolutely mental.

Problem is the refs aren't thinking about the result and nor should they

To then have to make split decision on what they think what is best is so wrong and so bloody stupid

People can dribble on about how good it is to have the game back ....yeah it's nice ...but to then have some stupid rule changes .....don't worry ..if it is going to make my sides chances less I'd rather we wait out the season

Agree it just puts more pressure on them which leads to more inconsistency and wrong calls.
 
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150309) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150308) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150304) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150302) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150296) said:
Players should get the choice if they want 6 again or a penalty ...you get 5 seconds to make a call

I don't want a ref making the call for my side whether they think a penalty or 6 again is the better call

That completely defeats the purpose of the rule.

And having refs make calls for your rugby league team is completely (insert swear word ) mental

The ruck penalties will be rare, one maybe two a game once it is up and running. The majority of the time it is going to be 6 again. The penalty is really for the repeat infringements.

or when Cammy rips people's ears off..

Yeah basically for repeat offenses and times a player's actions risk injury to an opposition player. It needs to be remembered that a penalty will constitute an automatic sin binning. These penalties will be rare in a game.
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150267) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [One ref](/post/1150266) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150265) said:
Can’t say I’m a fan of the captains challenge. Did tigers even use one in their first two games? Refs showed they get it right 99% of the time anyway so I don’t think it’s really needed, i think it just puts more pressure on them to be right which again leads to inconsistency and rushed calls

i dont think so lol

Madge probably told them not to worry about it and to just focus on the footy.

How did that go!
 
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option
 
@Snake said in [One ref](/post/1150312) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150267) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [One ref](/post/1150266) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150265) said:
Can’t say I’m a fan of the captains challenge. Did tigers even use one in their first two games? Refs showed they get it right 99% of the time anyway so I don’t think it’s really needed, i think it just puts more pressure on them to be right which again leads to inconsistency and rushed calls

i dont think so lol

Madge probably told them not to worry about it and to just focus on the footy.

How did that go!

Worked one week didn’t work the other ? 50% ain’t bad right?
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150315) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option

Everyone around the game has pushed it ...haven't heard it mentioned by anyone from the NRL ...they have a habit of ignoring the pink elephant in the room stomping it's feet and blowing its trunk
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150305) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150304) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150302) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150296) said:
Players should get the choice if they want 6 again or a penalty ...you get 5 seconds to make a call

I don't want a ref making the call for my side whether they think a penalty or 6 again is the better call

That completely defeats the purpose of the rule.

And having refs make calls for your rugby league team is completely (insert swear word ) mental

I can see it now.... storm are winning 17-16, there’s a minute on the clock, there’s a ruck infringement right in front of the posts and the ref calls 6 again instead of a penalty and a gift two points, tigers lose. Fans would go absolutely mental.

Absolutely that'll happen. Just like the refs are very very hesitant to give penalties within penalty goal kicking range in golden point games.
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150319) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150315) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option

Everyone around the game has pushed it ...haven't heard it mentioned by anyone from the NRL ...they have a habit of ignoring the pink elephant in the room stomping it's feet and blowing its trunk

Health professional's are against it..
 
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150327) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150319) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150315) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option

Everyone around the game has pushed it ...haven't heard it mentioned by anyone from the NRL ...they have a habit of ignoring the pink elephant in the room stomping it's feet and blowing its trunk

Health professional's are against it..

Some also push two months between concussions ....

Funny how the game only chooses the things that some coaches want
 
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150330) said:
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150327) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150319) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150315) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option

Everyone around the game has pushed it ...haven't heard it mentioned by anyone from the NRL ...they have a habit of ignoring the pink elephant in the room stomping it's feet and blowing its trunk

Health professional's are against it..

Some also push two months between concussions ....

Funny how the game only chooses the things that some coaches want

You said everyone around the game have pushed it....medical advisers have not
 
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150332) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150330) said:
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150327) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150319) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150315) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150313) said:
When will these imbeciles realize that fixing the interchanges will fix many of the problems in our game

Blokes won't run in from 30 metres away to become a 4th man in a tackle when they have to play 70 minutes every week

I’ve seen they’re pushing to reduce interchange next season. Definitely think that’s a good option

Everyone around the game has pushed it ...haven't heard it mentioned by anyone from the NRL ...they have a habit of ignoring the pink elephant in the room stomping it's feet and blowing its trunk

Health professional's are against it..

Some also push two months between concussions ....

Funny how the game only chooses the things that some coaches want

You said everyone around the game have pushed it....medical advisers have not

Dr's aren't around the game are they ...and I haven't seen a direct quote from a Dr saying yay or nay ...just reported
 
@JD-Tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150324) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150305) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150304) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150302) said:
@happy_tiger said in [One ref](/post/1150296) said:
Players should get the choice if they want 6 again or a penalty ...you get 5 seconds to make a call

I don't want a ref making the call for my side whether they think a penalty or 6 again is the better call

That completely defeats the purpose of the rule.

And having refs make calls for your rugby league team is completely (insert swear word ) mental

I can see it now.... storm are winning 17-16, there’s a minute on the clock, there’s a ruck infringement right in front of the posts and the ref calls 6 again instead of a penalty and a gift two points, tigers lose. Fans would go absolutely mental.

Absolutely that'll happen. Just like the refs are very very hesitant to give penalties within penalty goal kicking range in golden point games.

Except when it’s us against the broncos... or it’s Melbourne in the last minute of the game ?
 
After How many times does a repeat ruck infringement occur?
If a player is binned does the count re-start?
6 again
6 again
6 again
Penalty = bin
 
@innsaneink said in [One ref](/post/1150337) said:
After How many times does a repeat ruck infringement occur?
If a player is binned does the count re-start?
6 again
6 again
6 again
Penalty = bin

If a player is binned then its a penalty so yes the count will restart?
 
@innsaneink said in [One ref](/post/1150337) said:
After How many times does a repeat ruck infringement occur?
If a player is binned does the count re-start?
6 again
6 again
6 again
Penalty = bin

Do we even have an exact number ......
 
Sin bin for repeated infringements was already a rule. The ref normally lets two happen, then there’s a warning then a sin bin. It’s yet another massive grey area in the rules, sometimes the ref gives a warning then ten minutes later gives another, sometimes they give a warning then ten minutes later it’s a sin bin. There’s no exact number it’s whatever the ref feels which is no good
 
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150303) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [One ref](/post/1150300) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150294) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [One ref](/post/1150293) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150291) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [One ref](/post/1150288) said:
@cochise said in [One ref](/post/1150260) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [One ref](/post/1150245) said:
@Geo said in [One ref](/post/1150242) said:
@Cairnstigers said in [One ref](/post/1150214) said:
If the defending team is deliberately slowing up the ruck, then maybe the culprit should be charged by the match review committee. If you were to get a 20 point charge per infringement then 5 infringements would automatically result in a one match ban or a $20,000 fine to the club
This could be kept completely seperate to all other charges so points are not added
That will stop players deliberately slowing up the game

So would sending 5 of them to the Sin Bin in the actual game they are playing advantaging the team they were actually playing not the following weeks team..

I know what your saying but
It is no different to going on report for a shoulder charge during a game only to cop a 4 week suspension the following week
That gives an advantage to the next 4 teams

Its quite different, as the wrestling is an ongoing effort to disadvantage the opposition.

I'm not talking about the type of offence
I'm talking about the advantage that the next week's opposition gets

Yes it is totally different as that is a punishment for a player for a foul and dangerous act where the wrestle is a team trying to systematically disadvantage the opposing team, I sin binning would be much more appropriate in that situation.

Yes
But what good is that if a sin bin is applied with 5 minutes to go in the match iwhen a possible try is prevented.
Missing a whole week Will have more of an effect then missing 5 minutes
As a player what would you prefer
5 minutes or a week

As a player you would gamble 5 minutes in the bin to stop a try
Would you gamble a whole week on the sidelines
Come down hard I say

I do see your point, though I don't agree. I don't care what the player would prefer, what would the opposition who suffered the cheating prefer is what I believe we should be asking in this case.

Why not both punishments for repeat offenders
If a possible try is prevented because of an infringement, 5 minutes in the bin is not enough if the attacking team doesn't score
So it appears the offender gets off
But if the offender knows he will be rubbed out next week, he is less likely to offend in the 1st place.
If we want to clean up the game, harsh action needs to be taken
They will learn pretty quick to pull there heads in

Have no problem at all with that mate!

It's settled then
I'll raise it with V'Landys when I see him next
?
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [One ref](/post/1150343) said:
Sin bin for repeated infringements was already a rule. The ref normally lets two happen, then there’s a warning then a sin bin. It’s yet another massive grey area in the rules, sometimes the ref gives a warning then ten minutes later gives another, sometimes they give a warning then ten minutes later it’s a sin bin. There’s no exact number it’s whatever the ref feels which is no good

There will be no warnings this time round.
 
The refs just need to call a penalty. The captain of the team getting the penalty just needs to call '6 to go' if he wishes and away we go. A bit like the quick tap.
Sin bins will be at the refs discretion as usual but no warnings.
I think ssome just want this to be hard.
 
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