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Best Sheens, maybe Cleary taking over in a while
Worst Taylor, yeh Lamb was not great, but over all Taylor was worse.
Worst Taylor, yeh Lamb was not great, but over all Taylor was worse.
Our best and worst WT coaches
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supercoach
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Comparing coaches from different eras is impossible. They have nearly completely different playing group to work with.
Sheens had Benji at his prime,Farah at his prime, Prince at his prime, Hogo playing out of his skin. a young Pat Richards, Skando playing as good as any other front rower. So to compare him with say JT or Potter is a hard ask.
Certainly Cleary has a chance to be highly rated when you see what he has done with limited talent, in saying that next year will be the acid test because expectations are going to be much higher
Sheens had Benji at his prime,Farah at his prime, Prince at his prime, Hogo playing out of his skin. a young Pat Richards, Skando playing as good as any other front rower. So to compare him with say JT or Potter is a hard ask.
Certainly Cleary has a chance to be highly rated when you see what he has done with limited talent, in saying that next year will be the acid test because expectations are going to be much higher
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Totally agree supercoach….what I will say however,the improvement in this team under Cleary has been very,very good,individual players have improved that were once called the worst in the team,such as Kev N,his defense has been great lately and is playing far better than the start of the year..
Cleary could well end up being the best coach we have had,I judge him on the team performances and the cultural change within the Club,so far he has been great for both and hopefully things will only get much better on and off the field while he is here....
goldcoast_tiger
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That was shown by the last Three or four important games at the end of last season.
Our high defensive standards were fully on view . :smiley:
Harvey
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Potter had massive injury problems that saw Corey Patterson playing on the wing. How do you produce with a team like that. He was also the first to identify that Farah was on a downhill slide and try to inject some common sense into the board.
He suffered the consequences
He suffered the consequences
Gee 7 that high… :laughing:
Thought you would have had Webster the forgotten man ahead Hobbs...
Thought you would have had Webster the forgotten man ahead Hobbs...
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As the author of the thread, let me state that it was most definitely not a vehicle to slam Taylor. If I want to slam anyone it's Sheens. I was mostly motivated to post it by the success Cleary is having and how quickly imo he's established himself as one of our best ever coaches.
Btw, don't ask "who cares" and then give an opinion. It shows that you care and contradicts your assertion that no one does. I agree though, no one was worse than Terry Lamb. He and Paul Langmack are the worse NRL coaches I can recall.
earl
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I agree. This year he has been impressive. The truth is though we have to improve over the next couple of seasons. I don't have massive expectations for next year. We are losing one of the best players in the game and we can't go out and buy a player like that.
I think though Cleary (with the club's support) has built a much better squad and over the next couple of years hopefully we can develop some top line talent and push for the 8.
I'm going to state that choosing between Lamb and Taylor in relation to our worst ever coach is really hard. Taylor has done a lot of damage to our team.
Byron_Bay_Fan
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Poor Steve Ghosn is even left off the Wiki list of Magpie coaches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Western_Suburbs_Magpies_coaches
I can remember he didn't have a great result was actually more successful than some others..
http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/western-suburbs-magpies/coaches.html
I can remember he didn't have a great result was actually more successful than some others..
http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/western-suburbs-magpies/coaches.html
Byron_Bay_Fan
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As already stated numerous times management wanted to even out RF's backending over longer years so that would not be so savage over a shorter number of years. And compared to the halves 2015 AND 2016 efforts he was still value for money scoring good tries in his last two FG games for the Club.
1\. Sheens is obviously first, delivered us the only final appearances and silverware we've ever had.
2\. Pearce went well to start off with, fell away after someone broke a mirror in the gym and everyone got injured and Melbourne decided to end the career of our best player.
3\. Cleary has got the uncoachables competing for 80 minutes. Will likely be #2 after next year, may be #1 when his tenure here is finished. Who knows at this point.
4\. Potter went OK with limited cattle, was overruled on decisions, team crippled by injury and his run in with Farah mortally wounded him and couldn't get the team to lift after that.
5\. JT had the right idea, was just a poor man manager and could have handled things better. Results didn't follow from his strategy and he couldn't/wouldn't adapt his plans. He was probably the unintentional hatchet man we needed, although many will contest that.
6\. Lamb was abominable. Devoid of ideas and an awful squad that won less than a third of our games it was certainly our darkest time in the clubs history, topped off with our winger publicly indulging in amateur proctology.
Interestingly enough Cleary has the worst winning percentage of all our coaches at the moment.
2\. Pearce went well to start off with, fell away after someone broke a mirror in the gym and everyone got injured and Melbourne decided to end the career of our best player.
3\. Cleary has got the uncoachables competing for 80 minutes. Will likely be #2 after next year, may be #1 when his tenure here is finished. Who knows at this point.
4\. Potter went OK with limited cattle, was overruled on decisions, team crippled by injury and his run in with Farah mortally wounded him and couldn't get the team to lift after that.
5\. JT had the right idea, was just a poor man manager and could have handled things better. Results didn't follow from his strategy and he couldn't/wouldn't adapt his plans. He was probably the unintentional hatchet man we needed, although many will contest that.
6\. Lamb was abominable. Devoid of ideas and an awful squad that won less than a third of our games it was certainly our darkest time in the clubs history, topped off with our winger publicly indulging in amateur proctology.
Interestingly enough Cleary has the worst winning percentage of all our coaches at the moment.
sheer64
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Hopefully when all the divas and when my contract is up for negotiation I start playing well are gone, we will have a squad of players that any coach can be competitive with.
