Our halves our future

[Tim Sheens]

After another all important off season under their belts, especially being youngsters, they will hit the ground running.

I think we will see the best of them when Cherrington is alongside them during the origin period, as they will be ready and allowed to take control.

 

[Masterton]

We need backup in the halves.

That should be covered by Austin and Moltzen

 

[spearby]

moses and brooks are going well and they are the future but we need a couple of forwards who can tackle with mongrel and hurt when they hit, at present we have a team jumper pullers . I think how much we miss fulton he could tackle Thompson has go sue also has a go but the rest wouldn't crush a grape. one thing I cant understand how do you let a winger like koroibete go half way through the year and our winger is Paterson our club makes some very weird calls

 

[Geo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55476dCgSsw

Brooks n Moses…lead the way --------------->

 

[stevetiger]

I think Brooks and Moses look great and we have to stick with them. I'm not sure though where Austin fits in.

Maybe something like:-

1\. Tedesco
2\. Nofo
3\. Lawrence
4\. Austin
5\. Simona
6\. Moses
7\. Brooks

I think that backline could score some points and the back 3 would get us off to a good start every set. The problem is the centres might not cut it and do we have any back-up for when we get some injuries.

 

[diedpretty]

I'd be trying to find a gun centre who could also play fullback if Teddy gets injured again - someone in the Inglis mould - 😛ray: I wish.

 

[Tigermama]

Brooks last tackle kicking options need quite a bit of work. A halfs coach would help with that. Also he needs to be given a free rein to roam both sides of the field. At the moment our halfs attack is predictable and a bit stifling. Change it up a bit boys…

 

[diedpretty]

Brooks last tackle kicking options need quite a bit of work. A halfs coach would help with that. Also he needs to be given a free rein to roam both sides of the field. **At the moment our halfs attack is predictable and a bit stifling**. Change it up a bit boys…

That's because Farah is either running across field looking for inside runners or taking a step or two before passing from dummy half - he needs to get the ball out from dummy half quicker like he was doing at the start of the year.

 

[barra]

I think these two young halves will be fine.

As others have said they need support from the rest of the team - the big boys need to get them on the front foot more often, Farah needs to back off and let them work, we desperately need another strike weapon in the backs (Lawrence + Richards are easy to contain) and a replacement for Fulton.

I actually think a good new back rower is critical, not one that can just tackle but a well rounded player. Our backrow of Siro, Sue, Thompson, Blair (and then throw in Halatau) are all too similar.

I'm not a fan of Mason but a younger version would do me fine. This is where I would be splashing the cash if necessary. We really need this injection of power into the back row.

 

[bp_tiger]

brooks 1st game last year was full of hope and he played what he seen in front of him. this year he only plays left side and it is hurting his game the kid needs to be given a roving role because teams know what he is all about stuck on the left edge. he really needs a joey john's to help his game progress and it would also help moses as well.

 

[spearby]

brooks 1st game last year was full of hope and he played what he seen in front of him. this year he only plays left side and it is hurting his game the kid needs to be given a roving role because teams know what he is all about stuck on the left edge. he really needs a joey john's to help his game progress and it would also help moses as well.

do you think that like a lot of good half 5/8 they are over coached I heard fittler and joe johns say the same thing last week

 

[bp_tiger]

brooks 1st game last year was full of hope and he played what he seen in front of him. this year he only plays left side and it is hurting his game the kid needs to be given a roving role because teams know what he is all about stuck on the left edge. he really needs a joey john's to help his game progress and it would also help moses as well.

do you think that like a lot of good half 5/8 they are over coached I heard fittler and joe johns say the same thing last week

yes they are over structured, look at how it affected JT, he is now back to his best with out the structure.

 

[balmain boy]

Well Brooks was 3rd in the league in try assists at the halfway point of the season.

What terrible form for a rookie.

Now that our backline is worse than most nsw cup sides we just don't have any strike power to score points. The number of dropped balls/missed opportunities by backs (sic) either being out of position or being unable to catch a ball is astonishing.

Brooks and Moses are both used to have competent backs outside them, and usually at least players with speed if nothing else. Now they have nothing to work with. The worst backline possibly in the history of the NRL. What do you expect them to do?

Without players capable of playing at their level they struggle.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Truth is the forwards are going forward not perhaps with the same authority as early in the year but still making meters.

But Brooks kicking game is poor by 1st grade standards and it is unusual that a half hasn't won a MOM.

Simona did win us a couple last year and Richards can still rise to the occasion.

But our halves look good but would they play 1st grade at other top 8 clubs?

Feel the club cannot wait 2 or 3 years we need quick results.

Funny the only time back line clicked was on the odd occasion Anasta went well.

How good a Soward or Foran at 5/8.

Mate we can see they are still finding their feet in the NRL. I rate Moses ahead of Brooks. No one said that at present there world beaters, there only young and you want to knock them by saying no top 8 club would have them, so what, and are you 100% sure on that, or haven't you thought at all that they'd be snapped up straight away because other clubs know how to develop quality juniors into stars but we don't. Then you praise the forwards. What s*** are you on. If you don't like the young halves just say it, I couldn't care less, you carry on trying to say things without saying them, taking your post neither here nor there. Anasta's this, Foran that, and you can't wait. Lol

So tell me champ, what's the fix?

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Thanks for the kind words mate.

Do you reckon ckub can afford another non top 8 year? I don't.

How many clubs succeed with not 1 but 2 rookie halves? Can't recall any.

Brooks kicking game is not good and currently only plays one side. However his defense is above average for any 1st grade half and with a year under his belt we must stick with him. Not a Lamb or Alexander who hit the ground running at 18 but still above average.

But can we risk playing another rookie in the halves at the same time. Moses defense looks a little suspect and I would go for an experienced 5/8.

Not saying they can't succeed quickly but its a big risk.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Truth is the forwards are going forward not perhaps with the same authority as early in the year but still making meters.

But Brooks kicking game is poor by 1st grade standards and it is unusual that a half hasn't won a MOM.

Simona did win us a couple last year and Richards can still rise to the occasion.

But our halves look good but would they play 1st grade at other top 8 clubs?

Feel the club cannot wait 2 or 3 years we need quick results.

Funny the only time back line clicked was on the odd occasion Anasta went well.

How good a Soward or Foran at 5/8.

Mate we can see they are still finding their feet in the NRL. I rate Moses ahead of Brooks. No one said that at present there world beaters, there only young and you want to knock them by saying no top 8 club would have them, so what, and are you 100% sure on that, or haven't you thought at all that they'd be snapped up straight away because other clubs know how to develop quality juniors into stars but we don't. Then you praise the forwards. What s*** are you on. If you don't like the young halves just say it, I couldn't care less, you carry on trying to say things without saying them, taking your post neither here nor there. Anasta's this, Foran that, and you can't wait. Lol

So tell me champ, what's the fix?

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Thanks for the kind words mate.

Do you reckon ckub can afford another non top 8 year? I don't.

How many clubs succeed with not 1 but 2 rookie halves? Can't recall any.

Brooks kicking game is not good and currently only plays one side. However his defense is above average for any 1st grade half and with a year under his belt we must stick with him. Not a Lamb or Alexander who hit the ground running at 18 but still above average.

But can we risk playing another rookie in the halves at the same time. Moses defense looks a little suspect and I would go for an experienced 5/8.

Not saying they can't succeed quickly but its a big risk.

 

[Tony33]

Truth is the forwards are going forward not perhaps with the same authority as early in the year but still making meters.

But Brooks kicking game is poor by 1st grade standards and it is unusual that a half hasn't won a MOM.

Simona did win us a couple last year and Richards can still rise to the occasion.

But our halves look good but would they play 1st grade at other top 8 clubs?

Feel the club cannot wait 2 or 3 years we need quick results.

Funny the only time back line clicked was on the odd occasion Anasta went well.

How good a Soward or Foran at 5/8.

Mate we can see they are still finding their feet in the NRL. I rate Moses ahead of Brooks. No one said that at present there world beaters, there only young and you want to knock them by saying no top 8 club would have them, so what, and are you 100% sure on that, or haven't you thought at all that they'd be snapped up straight away because other clubs know how to develop quality juniors into stars but we don't. Then you praise the forwards. What shit are you on. If you don't like the young halves just say it, I couldn't care less, you carry on trying to say things without saying them, taking your post neither here nor there. Anasta's this, Foran that, and you can't wait. Lol

So tell me champ, what's the fix?

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Wayne bennet did everything he could to get them. Andrew johns did everything he could to get them.
The broncos threw big bucks to get them.
There the ones we know about.
So i don't know about the validity of your points.

The problem is your judging them on the bad times when they're attempting to feed players like halatau, lulia, patterson, lawerence, akauola, thompson and rowe. The real problem is that those players wouldn't be in any top 8 sides backline. That is why players like Foran and cherry Evans are world beaters… Look at their bloody backline and then compare it to ours at the present time !

If you were judging them on the first few months when we had arguably the best young backline on the park consistently then this thread wouldn't even be considered because we were playing free flowing attacking footy with teddy, simona, nofa and an inform pat richards scoring trys. I clearly remember people saying that teddy shouldn't leave because his only as good as he is because Brooks makes him look good. How things have changed..

At the end of the day their only 19 years of age and at present im happy for them to make mistakes as long as they're better for it in the long run. Give them time and a proper backline and you"ll be eating your words soon enough..

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[magpiecol]

I think patience is the key , i have no doubt we will be there dancing in a year or 2 , and Moltzen is here next year , last year on his contract.

Moltzen? He has no chance of playing first grade next season or any other.

 

[Tigermama]

They both seem to have footy smarts( and that can not be taught) you either have it or you don't. Our half's seem to respond well in tight situations and that will improve with more game time under their belt. Patients and good coaching is needed with this two, and if they get that , watch them shine Magpie :slight_smile:

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I reckon they have heaps of talent and want them both at the club but the next 2 yrs could be an issue . But its always a risk playing 2 20yo halves.

One thing I'm worried about us our kicking game and with the balance of our side atm just wondering if Brooks Moses as a pair will get us in semis next year.

Lets hope so but should the club consider a plan b in the short term?

 

[Tigermama]

All good clubs have a plan B Magpie. But does our club? only the devil knows. They always seem to put all their eggs in the same basket year after year. Changes need to be made ASP.