OUR RESPONSE

[shifty]

I miss the point where my post is about my handling of criticism Golden…

But it certainly won't be on a forum.
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[happy_tiger]

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really? do you use tissues when your angry??? I punch walls, I didn't know people cry when angry.

Golden Don't get angry ,get even Works every time

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Take your pick at any thread you like where players are described as
Soft, gutless, cowards, have no heart, all of that are unfair and over the top.
People have said individuals are scared, pretenders and pretty boys. ONe player has been described as only here for the cash.

Our coach has been described as senile, stupid and a number of other names.

Would you say that to a bloke in a pub?? obviously not, cause he likely whack you.

You are more than able to criticise the teams performance and tactics but all of the above is personal than what is.
And the laughable part is that blokes that have been mercilessly attacking players have the audacity to say, who does this bloke think he is calling me names because i called him names…..

Find me these posts. From what I have seen any posts that have been over the top have been deleted.

IMO describing a performance as soft is hardly being a coward. If people can't come on here and vent then there is something wrong and you may as well shut the place down.

Was Robbie Farah a coward for calling us soft two weeks ago?
Is Matthew Johns a coward for calling us soft last night? And on the weekend?
Is Tommy.R a coward for calling us a pack of pillows who need to pull their finger out?
Is Paul Gallen a coward for calling us soft last week?
Is Gorden Tallis a coward for calling us soft last week?

This is a blatant attempt to try and box everyone who is offering criticism into the same group. There are plenty of people here who have criticised performances, players and coaching staff but have done so in a constructive manner, now they get lumped with a select few who have gone over the top. Those who never criticise are lauded as "true fans" while the ones who do are apparently spineless cowards even if they have been balanced in their views. Give me a break.

 

[happy_tiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

 

[king_sirro]

Havent read the full thread, just the original post now. Seems ironic to me for someone to come on here calling for people to put names to posts the signs off with an alias…..classic. Must be a frontrower

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

Is there a day organised where the fans can tell the players what they think?

 

[system]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

Pot meet kettle.

Not that I actually think you are a coward for typing that but by your own criteria you have judged yourself a coward.

 

[happy_tiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

Is there a day organised where the fans can tell the players what they think?

Watto I reckon there would be some on here showing up with video cameras and lawyers in that case and you'd need a steady supply of ambulances

You yourself Watto must have had it at some stage When you busted a gut for 80 minutes and everything goes wrong and Murphy's Law rules

And then some tosser comes up and says "Your crap , your soft ,can't play " yet the week before he was genuflecting and saying "we are not worthy '

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

So all those people I mentioned above are cowards. Good to know.

 

[happy_tiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

Pot meet kettle.

Not that I actually think you are a coward for typing that but by your own criteria you have judged yourself a coward.

Where the hell do you get that from Smeg
I didn't say Hybrid didn't have the guts to do that Smeg . The point I am making there are some on here would no doubts before they could get up would be ringing the police

If you are prepared to dish it , you've got to be prepared to cop it . Is that so hard to understand .

 

[happy_tiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

So all those people I mentioned above are cowards. Good to know.

The difference is Hybrid that these guys have to face the consequences on the field of their words and actions

In Tommy's case I've seen him do stuff off and on the field that almost defies logic , so don't even go there

In Matt Johns case , well lets not go there . I personally thought during the Channel Nine interviews in regards to the Cronulla incident in NZ that appearing with your wife was weak . If it was me and i had done the crime i would of manned up and appeared on my own and taken what was coming

 

[system]

Apologies if that was not your intent. By the flow of the postings it appeared to me that you were labelling hybrid a coward for not saying it to the subjects face yet i the same post by calling him a coward over the internet done exactly what you had labelled as cowardice.

if that was not your intent than I am obviously mistaken

 

[21sixers]

fight fight fight :smiling_imp: at the end of the day talk is cheap so i would rather sit back and wait for the players actions speak for themselves its earlly days

 

[Merlot_Tiger]

You blokes need to get down to a PCYC and borrow some gloves. I just want to talk about the Tigers and footy and be constructive about how we might start winning some games.

 

[cktiger]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

So all those people I mentioned above are cowards. Good to know.

They put their names behind their criticism Hybrid - so using Happy's criteria they're not.
He means the keyboard warriors who go past criticism of a player's (or coach's) ability and attack them personally behind the security of a user name.
Nothing wrong with saying someone played bad , or that you think they can't kick/tackle/pass whatever.
We all do it and have the right to argue our case for or against our opinions.
I think the original post was venting more at the personal sledges.
And to the guys who think they get paid enough to cop personal abuse - you're wrong.
They get paid to play football - if you're going to have a go at them make it about their game.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Hybrid If you call someone soft andyou don't have the guts to say it to their faces without the repercussions that may come .

Then you are a coward of the worse kind in my opinion

Is there a day organised where the fans can tell the players what they think?

Watto I reckon there would be some on here showing up with video cameras and lawyers in that case and you'd need a steady supply of ambulances

You yourself Watto must have had it at some stage When you busted a gut for 80 minutes and everything goes wrong and Murphy's Law rules

And then some tosser comes up and says "Your crap , your soft ,can't play " yet the week before he was genuflecting and saying "we are not worthy '

Every Sports Player cops it Happy!

From an NRL perspective, its just the price of conducting your trade in the public forum.

Calling a performance 'cowardly' is probably not the same as meaning it in a general sence about an individual in thier personal life. The 'terms' and 'references' can easily be mixed up, but I wouldnt think people on here would actualy want to say such things to a player on a personal nature. (unless Benji is sleeping with my missus too :laughing: )

Geez, I've still got a picture with Timmy Choo Shoes Moltzen wearing heals. I'm thinking about getting him to sign it, but its simply a gee-up. If he signs it, then I'd buy him a beer!

 

[happy_tiger]

Apologies if that was not your intent. By the flow of the postings it appeared to me that you were labelling hybrid a coward for not saying it to the subjects face yet i the same post by calling him a coward over the internet done exactly what you had labelled as cowardice.

if that was not your intent than I am obviously mistaken

Bloody hell Smeg I've had enough arguments with him and Ink over this subject over the last 2 weeks to know he or Ink isn't going to back down and neither am I

These blokes are taking the fans view and I am taking the players view and neither of us is going to win or lose this argument

Usually (if you were to check other threads) I agree with a lot of what Hybrid says I just strongly disagree on this one and if hybrid posts about it I will bite back It's nothing personal

I have PM ed Ink over this subject and we have agreed to disagree He believe's players are public property I don't

But I will repeat again Apart from calling him a cheat or something along those lines calling someone soft is the lowest thing you can do

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I have no issue with those saying the team is underperforming, or even soft. Our own captain has even admitted it. What I have an issue with is that people with an axe to grind are going beyond saying that and instead of offering constructive criticism, choose to go the other way and litter their opinions with vitriol.

Certain people are using the team performance to take to particular players (or staff,) they have an agenda against. The large majority here can make their point and use facts or commonsense to back it up, but the people that piss me off are the 1% who simply who can't get their point across without fact, personal attacks against players/staff and unfounded speculation/innuendo.

The team isn't going well, and we're all not happy about it, but I didn't realise this gives the God-given right for some to carry on like a pork chop.

 

[Cos_Borg]

Does the word coward really relate to a first grade footballer? I mean you dont get all the way through the grades if your a coward, true? Ive known cowards who would panic if i raised my voice or started swinging my arms. A coward is someone who hides behind a woman or a child in a threatening situation like a hold up. I hardly think that any Tigers players who took us to the top for decided in the off season to become a coward? Why do we use words like coward when really its about bad form? Is the meaning of a coward a guy who tries to tackle a 115 kilo monster but fails or a guy who sits on his couch and complains because someone else cant do it?
Carn supporters, imagine how the players feel, they feel down, upset about how they are feeling and now their extended family (us) stab them in the backs and kick them while they are down.
If i had a mate to treated me like some of us fans have treated the Tigers who are meant to be fans (fanatics) then i would smack him to the ground!!!

 

[Goose]

Im with you Happy, players are not public property that can be called anything you like and have to cop it sweet.

Does anyone see the irony that people are getting upset when the player gives it back to them. He is suppose to cop it sweet and be told he is soft, heartless and so on, yet if he reponds and says you are a coward and the same blokes dishing it out complain and get indignant that the player criticised them.

People have to realise that players from both sides are generally giving it there best, and someone has to lose.