Packer & Reynolds

@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225627) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225618) said:
Over the top hysteria
Move on peeps ?

Is it though ? You’re hugely critical of the club. All the time! When little things like this rear their head , coupled with the social media posts , the leaking of resentment within the playing group etc. and it begs the question . Do we have low standards . Do we allow apathy to infect every aspect of the club.

Reynolds or Packer aren’t in our future plans ..
I’m sure they’ve been reprimanded by the coach behind closed doors ..
Move on !
 
the question that we as fans should ask.....would this behavior be acceptable at clubs like melbourne, roosters, broncos etc??? The clubs that have a long history of playing in finals?? (except Broncos this year)

the answer would be hell no.

If the club wants to start improving on everything, this lazy attitude towards simple mateship and support for teammates would be squashed out. It's not a hard ask.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225585) said:
@rustycage said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225575) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225481) said:
Could care less they didnt technically do anything wrong. I could also care less about what players like Brooks and Taylor think.

Culture is broken and those two blokes sticking up for Packer and Reynolds are part of the problem not part of the solution.

If a player attends a game as a spectator its just incredibly poor form to walk out on their team mates like that.

Ive sat with fans in tears after another flogging or a really tough loss. They didnt get up and leave. They sat through it.

These players all need to be moved on.


So you couldn't care less.

What people have to understand is that everything said on here in this thread is their opinion ,whether right or wrong....its up to the club to penalise them if they are in the wrong or BREECHED their contractual agreement anything we say is here say and emotional opinion..

And yes I couldnt careless if Reynolds left at halftime because he wasnt in the team that won and gave a fantastic result for us...he wasnt required at Brooky ...end of story...

Yiu couldn't care less that the player your sticking up for and claiming isn't getting a fair go, he couldn't care less how his team mates went in the 2nd half as he had better things to do
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225601) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225600) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225593) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225587) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225567) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225505) said:
Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...


Man you are not only missing the point, you are in a different postcode.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225628) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225615) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225606) said:
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225599) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

Whilst it sux that you experienced that ,None of that is relevant ! At all! Which clearly shows your missing the point.
The biggest criticism of our club is and has been the lack of togetherness and digging in for your mates , that is soo clearly evident at other clubs.
Some of us have been in organisations that arnt football, but adhere to the same principles and mateship that is forged through hardship. And it’s really indicative of the broader culture within the tigers that these players felt disconnected because they arnt on the field.

It is relevent...because he wasnt required to attend Brooky...he went of his own volition and left at half time...so what..keep giving me your spiel,it doesnt change the fact that he has a contract with the club,if he has done anything to breech his contract by leaving when he did then the club can deal with it...this club has had a history of under achieving and poor performances,players leaving at halftime is nowhere as bad as tankers,sooks,outspoken players who think they run the place etc etc...

What are you talking about ? It’s all indicative of a broader issue . Lol it’s like you’re arguing “I only stole 100 bucks where this guy stole 1000 bucks. He’s way worse “ The scale of the act is irrelevant. The fact that these things are considered ok , is the main issue. I’m not changing your mind that’s fine , Bur when you wonder why the storm and roosters of the world , dig in whilst under the pump for 15 mins and don’t let the opposition get an inch , and why the tigers can’t do it, just remember this debate.

Both those teams have outstanding rosters and very good systems that have taken years to build,WTs on the other hand have been poor at recruitment ,coach recuitment and general poor management...its up to the club to instill what is expected of the players who represent the club...it is a professional business and should be treated as such,if these blokes have done the wrong thing its up to the club to adjudicate not us fans on a forum getting our knickers in a knot and become emotionally embroiled..

My knickers arnt in a knot at all . I see these things over years , as a general rot that has infected the club. It’s not easy to spot , and in each situation it looks like a huge over reaction, but when you look at how we fall apart in the big moments , and it begs the question “ how much do they really want it “ .
Being professional isn’t the top mate . It’s the bare minimum. It’s the bottom of what’s expected
 
@cochise said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225622) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225614) said:
inuendos

Inuendos?

I do make sense,but people dont want to see the other side..JR has a contract with the club,he was not required at Brooky...if he has done the wrong thing in regard to his contractual agreement then the club should adjudicate and penalise or not...we can all say Im wrong and everyone on here is clearly right...it has nothing to do with what we think is right or wrong its an opinion...what I said was in my particular circumstance whereI I played I gave 100 percent when on the field..if I wasnt required it was a day off to do what I liked ,if I went to a game and left it was no big deal...the coach my boss gave me the day off,if I chose to go to a game it was my choice even if I left at half time...if you boss gave you a day off and said you have to come to work..what would you think...and consider this is a professional organisation when answering
 
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225627) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225618) said:
Over the top hysteria
Move on peeps ?

Is it though ? You’re hugely critical of the club. All the time! When little things like this rear their head , coupled with the social media posts , the leaking of resentment within the playing group etc. and it begs the question . Do we have low standards . Do we allow apathy to infect every aspect of the club.

At the crux of the problem is that for years we have had a number of players that can’t or won’t lift to a standard. This is compounded by our clubs front office simultaneously having a track record of not driving standards and being hamstrung by repeated poor football operations decisions.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225635) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225601) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225600) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225593) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225587) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225567) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225505) said:
Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...


Man you are not only missing the point, you are in a different postcode.

your opinion mate ....
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225643) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225635) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225601) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225600) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225593) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225587) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225567) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225505) said:
Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...


Man you are not only missing the point, you are in a different postcode.

your opinion mate ....


Ok, lets take it out of the realm of opinion, into the world of facts and reality.

Do you think that the Roosters have written in SBW's contract or terms and conditions, a clause that says, if you are not playing you MUST sit through each game?
 
@OzLuke said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225633) said:
the question that we as fans should ask.....would this behavior be acceptable at clubs like melbourne, roosters, broncos etc??? The clubs that have a long history of playing in finals?? (except Broncos this year)

the answer would be hell no.

If the club wants to start improving on everything, this lazy attitude towards simple mateship and support for teammates would be squashed out. It's not a hard ask.

At Melbourne you get a bloke with a broken jaw volunteer to be the ball boy..
 
@innsaneink said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225634) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225585) said:
@rustycage said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225575) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225481) said:
Could care less they didnt technically do anything wrong. I could also care less about what players like Brooks and Taylor think.

Culture is broken and those two blokes sticking up for Packer and Reynolds are part of the problem not part of the solution.

If a player attends a game as a spectator its just incredibly poor form to walk out on their team mates like that.

Ive sat with fans in tears after another flogging or a really tough loss. They didnt get up and leave. They sat through it.

These players all need to be moved on.


So you couldn't care less.

What people have to understand is that everything said on here in this thread is their opinion ,whether right or wrong....its up to the club to penalise them if they are in the wrong or BREECHED their contractual agreement anything we say is here say and emotional opinion..

And yes I couldnt careless if Reynolds left at halftime because he wasnt in the team that won and gave a fantastic result for us...he wasnt required at Brooky ...end of story...

Yiu couldn't care less that the player your sticking up for and claiming isn't getting a fair go, he couldn't care less how his team mates went in the 2nd half as he had better things to do

couldnt be bothered answering that Mark.get your brownie points elsewhere..he wasnt required to be there but went to show support and left after halftime,didnt have to at all but made some effort,he could of gone to the pub and no one would have known any better....
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225614) said:
@cochise said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225605) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

What? Mate you are not the only one on here to have played the game.and this post makes no sense to this discussion.

What I said was I played and got paid for my appearance...i was in the public eye while I was on the field,if I wasnt required to attend a venue and out of the team,it didnt matter if I left at halftime or didnt turn up at all...the club didnt own me I had a contract to play when selected,if I wasnt I had my time to do as I pleased ,wether it was to visit family on a sunday when I normally would be contracted to the club to play....its like your boss giving you a day off but you must come to work...so please spare me the inuendos...mate..

Ok cool . How successful were you ?
Seriously , how many premierships did you win ? Your arguement is grounded in the fact you played firsts and didn’t need to turn up when it wasn’t your shift ? So I’m genuinely curious , how successful that attitude was ?
 
@Geo said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225648) said:
@OzLuke said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225633) said:
the question that we as fans should ask.....would this behavior be acceptable at clubs like melbourne, roosters, broncos etc??? The clubs that have a long history of playing in finals?? (except Broncos this year)

the answer would be hell no.

If the club wants to start improving on everything, this lazy attitude towards simple mateship and support for teammates would be squashed out. It's not a hard ask.

At Melbourne you get a bloke with a broken jaw volunteer to be the ball boy..

I couldn't imagine being in a club and not being interested in going to watch.
 
@innsaneink said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225634) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225585) said:
@rustycage said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225575) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225481) said:
Could care less they didnt technically do anything wrong. I could also care less about what players like Brooks and Taylor think.

Culture is broken and those two blokes sticking up for Packer and Reynolds are part of the problem not part of the solution.

If a player attends a game as a spectator its just incredibly poor form to walk out on their team mates like that.

Ive sat with fans in tears after another flogging or a really tough loss. They didnt get up and leave. They sat through it.

These players all need to be moved on.


So you couldn't care less.

What people have to understand is that everything said on here in this thread is their opinion ,whether right or wrong....its up to the club to penalise them if they are in the wrong or BREECHED their contractual agreement anything we say is here say and emotional opinion..

And yes I couldnt careless if Reynolds left at halftime because he wasnt in the team that won and gave a fantastic result for us...he wasnt required at Brooky ...end of story...

Yiu couldn't care less that the player your sticking up for and claiming isn't getting a fair go, he couldn't care less how his team mates went in the 2nd half as he had better things to do

It's a funny argument isn't it.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225646) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225643) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225635) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225601) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225600) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225593) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225587) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225567) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225505) said:
Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...


Man you are not only missing the point, you are in a different postcode.

your opinion mate ....


Ok, lets take it out of the realm of opinion, into the world of facts and reality.

Do you think that the Roosters have written in SBW's contract or terms and conditions, a clause that says, if you are not playing you MUST sit through each game?

No I never said that,he is a money making machine who everybody knows for his controversial sporting prowess and abilities... by having him just sit on the sidelines will make you money because people know he will get out and play...have a look at the ratings for the footy the other night when he made his first game for 3 years...it tells how much interest he creates and politis has bagged some more money...
 
When I played cricket, even if it was my week off I would often be there to score, umpire or heckle the lads. Most of the others would too.

It's what you do in a team sport. You're all in it together.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225654) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225646) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225643) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225635) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225601) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225600) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225593) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225587) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225567) said:
@Tigercrb said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225505) said:
Just my opinion, but I think it is terrible reflection of their attitude towards their team mates and obviously the coach.

And the excuse of "it's not technically a rule to stay" is also weak. Where else do they need to be that is more important than there work place? Packer was 19th man, so obviously could not possibly have any other plans.

I am very interested to know where they went. Home? Out together for a beer?

Surely it is part of the contract to attend team events (sponsors, charity etc) and would have to include games, unless permission is given prior.

Matty johns mentioned on his show, the under 20's had to stay and watch reserve grade and first grade without drinking when he was coming through at the knights. This is a sign of respect and solidarity.

I honestly could not see this happening at Melbourne or the roosters. It is an up yours to Madge. If you are not going to pick me, I'm not hanging around.

People saying its only minor and been blown out of proportion need to understand that culture, effort and team work is what drive successful clubs.

This has made me think of the All Black policy of cleaning the dressing room after games. Doesn't matter if you are Ritchie McCaw or a debutant. You stand by the rules and expectations of the club/team.

As I said earlier ...JR was not required at Brooky...he made his choice to go and support the team...he left at half time big deal,we left a bloke in our team for weeks while he tanked and you want to crucify a player for leaving the ground when not required to be there in the first place...please wake up to the real world...

Required or not, you should be supporting your team mates. I wouldnt have a problem with it if he didn't attend the game at all. But to leave at half time, when your team mates are facing adversity says it all really.

As much as I can't stand all the hysteria around sbw, the cameras have shown him sitting on the side line supporting his team mates, every game since he signed.

I wonder if he is required to be there by the roosters, or is there because he wants to be there?

Roosters know SBW will make them money by sitting on the sidelines....big difference....

Lol, so you would say he is required by the roosters to be there?

A bloke on virtually minimum wage, 3+ years out of the game is required to be on the side lines supporting him team mates, but a marquee signing trying to convince the coach he deserves another shot in first grade is NOT required?

This is about the difference in character between the 2.

I need to wake up to the real world? Classic

Yes you do SBW is a money making machine for what he has achieved over the years JR doesnt even come close...


Man you are not only missing the point, you are in a different postcode.

your opinion mate ....


Ok, lets take it out of the realm of opinion, into the world of facts and reality.

Do you think that the Roosters have written in SBW's contract or terms and conditions, a clause that says, if you are not playing you MUST sit through each game?

No I never said that,he is a money making machine who everybody knows for his controversial sporting prowess and abilities... by having him just sit on the sidelines will make you money because people know he will get out and play...have a look at the ratings for the footy the other night when he made his first game for 3 years...it tells how much interest he creates and politis has bagged some more money...


As i said, missing the point totally. Answer this simply. Why has SBW decided to sit in the grandstand during Roosters games he is not playing in?
 
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225649) said:
@innsaneink said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225634) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225585) said:
@rustycage said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225575) said:
@The_Patriot said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225481) said:
Could care less they didnt technically do anything wrong. I could also care less about what players like Brooks and Taylor think.

Culture is broken and those two blokes sticking up for Packer and Reynolds are part of the problem not part of the solution.

If a player attends a game as a spectator its just incredibly poor form to walk out on their team mates like that.

Ive sat with fans in tears after another flogging or a really tough loss. They didnt get up and leave. They sat through it.

These players all need to be moved on.


So you couldn't care less.

What people have to understand is that everything said on here in this thread is their opinion ,whether right or wrong....its up to the club to penalise them if they are in the wrong or BREECHED their contractual agreement anything we say is here say and emotional opinion..

And yes I couldnt careless if Reynolds left at halftime because he wasnt in the team that won and gave a fantastic result for us...he wasnt required at Brooky ...end of story...

Yiu couldn't care less that the player your sticking up for and claiming isn't getting a fair go, he couldn't care less how his team mates went in the 2nd half as he had better things to do

couldnt be bothered answering that Mark.get your brownie points elsewhere..he wasnt required to be there but went to show support and left after halftime,didnt have to at all but made some effort,he could of gone to the pub and no one would have known any better....

Weak as .... Your argument throughout this whole discussion has been weak as p

"couldn't be bothered answering that"
"so what?"
"so what"
"so what "

Be the player your team mates wanna play with... Or be the guy who bails at half time when it looks like his "mates" are doing it tough

Staunch ?
 
Tigers, Madge back Reynolds, Packer after 'open apology'
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Margie McDonald & Dan Walsh
Timestamp - Mon 7 Sep 2020, 08:17 PM

Wests Tigers veterans Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer have "apologised openly" to club hierarchy for their half-time walkout on the weekend as Michael Maguire defended their commitment to the joint-venture club.

Reynolds and Packer are not expected to face sanction over the headline-grabbing incident out of the Tigers' stunning 34-32 comeback win over Manly, with the matter addressed by club management on Monday afternoon.

Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis told NRL.com that Reynolds and Packer had expressed "genuine remorse" for their actions and that he personally accepted their apology.

Maguire also said the pair's efforts on the training paddock are a better reflection of their standing at Concord, a view endorsed by teammates Elijah Taylor and Luke Brooks.

"They apologised openly," Hagipantelis said, with the Tigers board now to determine whether any punishment over their behaviour is handed down.

"They were genuinely remorseful and did not mean any disrespect.

"They've been told such conduct is not acceptable and it's not in line with the culture we're trying to grow here and they readily acknowledged that.

"It was a momentary lapse in judgment, and we've made it very clear that it wasn't acceptable."

Packer and Reynolds sat in the Tigers dug-out at Lottoland until halftime when the joint-venture trailed 20-12, before Packer watched the rest of game on his phone in his car because an arthritic condition in his foot is exacerbated by the cold.

Players outside the game-day 17 were not required to attend the game and other members of the Tigers' extended squad did not.

Maguire was understandably disappointed the pair's halftime exit dominated the aftermath of an inspiring win.

The Tigers coach said while the optics of the incident were concerning, the actions of Reynolds and Packer did not reflect a "disconnect" within the playing group.

Both senior players have been shopped to rivals for 2021 but have garnered little interest elsewhere in the NRL.

"Where we are now is that we’ve all been living in a bubble and that’s 24/7," Maguire told NRL.com.

"We understand each other’s frustrations. So obviously what happened is not the look we’re after. So look at the signs on the field to see what the group is about.

"That’s one of the better wins I’ve had at this club from a resilience point of view because that was a great example of how we want to be as a team – fighting to the end of the 80th minute.

"If you see Josh and Russ train each day as hard as they do you’d know there’s not disconnect at this club. I also can see why it looks that way from the outside."

Much has been made of Maguire's coaching style as the Tigers remain only a mathematical chance of ending a finals drought that stretches back to 2011.



NRL.com understands that the Tigers will look to extend Maguire's contract for another season beyond 2021 over the coming off-season in an emphatic endorsement of his methods, with Maguire backing the playing group's commitment to his cause.

"It’s part of the change in what we’re building here and the players, I can assure you, have been working extremely hard on trying to lift the standards of what we’re doing," Maguire said.

"Obviously there’s chatter around what people perceive.

"But me, my staff and players are on the inside and I credit the players in how they’re going about their training. I’ve got a group that all wants to improve."

Taylor, who spent time at the Warriors and Penrith before his six years at Wests Tigers, is the latest player to endorse Maguire as the man to lift the Tigers up the ladder.

"He’s exactly what this club needs – a hard-nosed approach, training hard," Taylor said.

"Ripping in the last two years have probably been my hardest training years that I’ve done to be honest. Anthony Griffin comes in a close second. He’s very similar.

"So very tough pre-seasons. But that’s what he had at Souths and at Wigan and they had great success. So you keep believing in the process and things will turn around."

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem as though Taylor will be there to go full circle. The three final games for the 2020 club season look like being his last in Tigers colours.The 30-year-old has not had any discussions with the club about extending his time at Concord Oval but he would like to keep playing in the NRL and has had interest from other sides.

"I can’t talk about it, but yes," Taylor said on the possibility of his NRL career resuming elsewhere.
 
@Strongee said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225650) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225614) said:
@cochise said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225605) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Packer & Reynolds](/post/1225592) said:
Heres something else for you experts to mull over....
I have played the game as many on here know,many times when I represented my club in FG I went out and did my best...I got called a wog,spic,daygo and the fans of the opposing team chanted to break my legs....I didnt have to go to the club and demand that I was racially abused or threatened,you know why,I was in the public eye and they pay thier entry to the game,its how we make money...yet if I was not required to attend the venue and did but left at half time Im the biggest rat of all time,please spare me your confluted arguements...

What? Mate you are not the only one on here to have played the game.and this post makes no sense to this discussion.

What I said was I played and got paid for my appearance...i was in the public eye while I was on the field,if I wasnt required to attend a venue and out of the team,it didnt matter if I left at halftime or didnt turn up at all...the club didnt own me I had a contract to play when selected,if I wasnt I had my time to do as I pleased ,wether it was to visit family on a sunday when I normally would be contracted to the club to play....its like your boss giving you a day off but you must come to work...so please spare me the inuendos...mate..

Ok cool . How successful were you ?

successful enough to not take payments for 4 years to get the club out of debt...in my days the almighty dollar only went so far...I still got injured,I still got back out there and I won a couple of awards for my trouble,but then again I wasnt at NRL level but a few of my mates were...
 

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