Packer & Reynolds

[Goanna57]

May be an unpopular opinion, but I'm more concerned with how this gets to the media in the first place - rather than what both players did. I might in the minority but it isn't an issue for me, as only one player was required to be there for the game and the other(going) didn't have one little impact on the game's result or the team's morale.
After such an emotionally charged week for us, I'm more frustrated with the fact we're in the media headlines due to a leak.

I think it's silly to suggest this negatively influences people's perception of us when someone's clearly got a big mouth, and it's the news outlets who have the tendency to make a mountain out of a molehole with anything WT related. It's not a reflection on the overall team at all IMO.

It was fox showing them leaving that’s how it got out

 

[Lauren]

May be an unpopular opinion, but I'm more concerned with how this gets to the media in the first place - rather than what both players did. I might in the minority but it isn't an issue for me, as only one player was required to be there for the game and the other(going) didn't have one little impact on the game's result or the team's morale.
After such an emotionally charged week for us, I'm more frustrated with the fact we're in the media headlines due to a leak.

I think it's silly to suggest this negatively influences people's perception of us when someone's clearly got a big mouth, and it's the news outlets who have the tendency to make a mountain out of a molehole with anything WT related. It's not a reflection on the overall team at all IMO.

It was fox showing them leaving that’s how it got out

Cheers for that @Goanna57.

I'm still riding the high from the win and prefer to keep a brave face for our remaining games tbh. Media and social media unfortunately has a powerful influence on perception/club image, and this should be considered no reflection on club organisation at all. Don't want to tread on toes but just don't wish to feed on any negative media atm.

Despite the minute chance we have - we're still in the fight, so I'd prefer to put all my focus on supporting the boys.

Hope all the Dads(on WTF) enjoyed Father's Day.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Zero Tackle
"Unlike Reynolds, Packer was named in Maguire’s 19-man side for the clash against the Sea Eagles, but reportedly left the game due to fears the cold weather could further damage his arthritic feet"

Grounds for forced retirement?

Wow, if late afternoon at Brookie is too cold, imagine Packer as 19th man for a Friday night match in Canberra !

Surely they can't be serious. If this is true then it does sound like grounds for a medical retirement.

 

[JD Tiger]

Have they given reasons publicly for why they did leave? I read Reynolds was 'filthy' at suggestions they were too cold, but what was the reason?

To me it's laughable that they didn't break any rules by leaving, it isn't about breaking rules, I want to know why they left, what was more important to them then watching their own team play?

Imagine training this morning, Reynolds saying 'Hey guys, I didn't leave the game cos I was too cold, I just couldn't be bothered staying because I wasn't interested in the game...'

 

[Tiger5150]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

Who cares if Reynolds wasn't required..who cares even how much they get paid and really who cares even if they are not picked for what ever reason..

Given where the Club is at and the questions being posed in the Media of late you would like to hope everyone in the organisation would be pulling in the one directions not only with their words but actions...These blokes in doing what they did has only thrown Kero on the smouldering fire..

There is no justifying it ..there is no excusing it ..it's a pathetic attitude that all that is wrong in a Club..

emotional opinion GEO..lets wait and see what the club does to them...thats my opinion..

This is completely missing the point. The club can't do anything. It's their attitude which is really bad.

What do you mean the club cant do anything,apparently some on here want contracts torn up etc...the club is a proffessional business the players are professional...there shoulkd be guidelines and expectations put in play like most professional business has...

The action the club takes does not change the attitude of these players. Their attitude is apparent and obvious and it is unacceptable.

 

[Tiger5150]

Just a thought. I wonder if Packer and Reynolds have clocked off because their futures have been decided?

Its a hell of a marketing exercise for potential new employers.

 

[Aesopian]

Now backdoor Benny Elias is offering his opinion. Calling for them both to be sacked LOL

SHUT UP Backdoor

 

[Tcat]

Now backdoor Benny Elias is offering his opinion. Calling for them both to be sacked LOL

SHUT UP Backdoor

It won't happen but i wouldn't be sad if they got sacked.

 

[avocadoontoast]

NRL 2020: Tigers players support embattled Josh Reynolds, Russell Packer in wake of halftime exit drama

Wests Tigers players have launched a passionate defence of embattled Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer in the wake of the pair’s halftime exit from the match against Manly on Saturday.
Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks has weighed into the controversy surrounding Russell Packer and Josh Reynolds after it was revealed the pair left Saturday night’s match during half time.

Brooks revealed he only found out the club’s highest paid players didn’t stick around to see the Tigers 34-32 gallant come-from-behind win against Manly after it was reported in News Corp.

But the 25-year-old said neither player had anything to apologise for and if the Tigers weren’t fighting to have their season the walk-out would not have made the news.

“Not at all. They weren’t required to be there so they don’t have to be there. It doesn’t affect us playing, you don’t even notice that they left. To me personally, I don’t really care,” Brooks said.

“They have our full support so it’s a story that has been blown out of proportion. Because of where we are on the ladder, little stories become bigger stories and that’s frustrating.”

Veteran forward Elijah Taylor said the actions of Reynolds and Packer did not reflect poorly on the Concord club’s culture.

“We didn’t find out about it until this morning. They’ve both got families - our culture is strong here, we showed that on the weekend in how we performed,” Taylor said.

“We’ve got a culture here that works hard for each other and turns up for each other.”

Balmain legend Gary Jack has called for the duo to be stood down but Taylor doesn’t believe the players, who trained on Monday morning, broke any rules that warranted punishment.

“I don’t know what’s going to happen (to them),” Taylor said.

“We just had training. They were training hard… it was a pretty tough session.

“Not at all (do they need to apologise). They’ve both got families – it’s a game of footy. We watch footy every day, we live and breathe footy.

“Some of the squad sometimes don’t come to the game because it’s on the other side of the city.”

 

[supercoach]

Might be a bad look...but that’s all. It would be great if it was a sackable offence, so we could clear some of the last remaining Cleary’s brain dead signings...but they have done nothing wrong. The club now needs to re write the rules and be like other clubs and make going to any game in Sydney mandatory for all contracted players

 

[Papacito]

For all the bagging these blokes have copped, it seems like they played by the club's rules and have done nothing wrong.

If anything, the finger of blame should be pointed at management for having (as Madge put it) "no hard and fast rules" about whether you're meant to be at the game or not.

For mine, you're either at the game supporting the team or at home on the couch, having a good hard think about how you're going to win your jersey back.

 

[Aesopian]

Now backdoor Benny Elias is offering his opinion. Calling for them both to be sacked LOL

SHUT UP Backdoor

It won't happen but i wouldn't be sad if they got sacked.

Totally. Wasted cap space.

I seem to be on an island with my opinion but I don't see anything wrong with what they did. Storm in a teacup

 

[jirskyr]

If anything, the finger of blame should be pointed at management for having (as Madge put it) “no hard and fast rules” about whether you’re meant to be at the game or not.

Whilst I, as a layman, think it would make sense to compel every player to attend every game possible (unless there's extended travel), I wouldn't be blaming anyone for not having that rule.

I'm not a pro footballer and I can understand that if the boss tells you that you can skip an evening of work, considering you basically work 7 days a week, you might be inclined to take it.

I am sure clubs like Warriors and Cowboys don't make their full roster travel, simply on account of how many games they play abroad.

So I think it would be up to the club to consider whether compulsory attendance is the best move or not. I can see a situation, for example, where someone decides to run the narrative that Madge is "too tough" because he makes every player attend every game even when injured. There's been a lot of that talk lately.

Ultimately the thing about football is you can't be forcing players to do XYZ, they need to be turning up themselves, that's the whole deal. Doing extra training, extra skills work, going to charity stuff off your own back, attending games when not selected - all part and parcel of being a more competitive and contributing employee. You can't force players to be more committed, it has to come from within.

And then stupid of the two players not to think of the optics, in light of all the stuff in the media lately. Maybe they don't care or maybe they are too dumb.

It begs the question why JRey even turned up at all, if he didn't have to, to leave at halftime. There would have been less drama had he not bothered at all. I've been to Brooky, I can understand the desire to leave as soon as possible.

 

[Guest]

Just a thought. I wonder if Packer and Reynolds have clocked off because their futures have been decided?

I doubt we could get anyone to take them on minimum wage to be perfectly honest.

 

[JD Tiger]

Good on Brooks and some players for sticking together, standing up for their teammates.
That's ironically exactly what Packer and Reynolds appeared not to do.

And to the stupid media so-called journalists who sift through these threads looking for rumours to print, unfortunately for your profession, the standard in Rugby League journalism has fallen so low it is becoming more and more irrelevant. I honestly come here straight to the forum for my Rugby League news, and I avoid Daily Telegraph and Fox like the plague. I think your days are numbered, as a profession, so maybe start reporting on something other than footy to give yourself a continued career.

 

[Moh]

NRL 2020: Tigers players support embattled Josh Reynolds, Russell Packer in wake of halftime exit drama

Wests Tigers players have launched a passionate defence of embattled Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer in the wake of the pair’s halftime exit from the match against Manly on Saturday.
Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks has weighed into the controversy surrounding Russell Packer and Josh Reynolds after it was revealed the pair left Saturday night’s match during half time.

Brooks revealed he only found out the club’s highest paid players didn’t stick around to see the Tigers 34-32 gallant come-from-behind win against Manly after it was reported in News Corp.

But the 25-year-old said neither player had anything to apologise for and if the Tigers weren’t fighting to have their season the walk-out would not have made the news.

“Not at all. They weren’t required to be there so they don’t have to be there. It doesn’t affect us playing, you don’t even notice that they left. To me personally, I don’t really care,” Brooks said.

“They have our full support so it’s a story that has been blown out of proportion. Because of where we are on the ladder, little stories become bigger stories and that’s frustrating.”

Veteran forward Elijah Taylor said the actions of Reynolds and Packer did not reflect poorly on the Concord club’s culture.

“We didn’t find out about it until this morning. They’ve both got families - our culture is strong here, we showed that on the weekend in how we performed,” Taylor said.

“We’ve got a culture here that works hard for each other and turns up for each other.”

Balmain legend Gary Jack has called for the duo to be stood down but Taylor doesn’t believe the players, who trained on Monday morning, broke any rules that warranted punishment.

“I don’t know what’s going to happen (to them),” Taylor said.

“We just had training. They were training hard… it was a pretty tough session.

“Not at all (do they need to apologise). They’ve both got families – it’s a game of footy. We watch footy every day, we live and breathe footy.

“Some of the squad sometimes don’t come to the game because it’s on the other side of the city.”

Cool so its the attitude of most of our players then.

I get what they are saying, if they don't want to be there that's fine but I would still expect them to be sitting in front of the telly doing their homework.

That's my expectation, others my disagree.

 

[OzLuke]

Considering Packer spent time at Oberon in corrective services forestry......seems like it's a pretty poor excuse.....

What does it matter if they have families? Or aren't required to be there? They should be there through thick and thin. Disgraceful attitude towards the club, the fans, and the players on the park.

Are these guys adults?? Man alive you gotta shake your head

 

[izotope]

Now backdoor Benny Elias is offering his opinion. Calling for them both to be sacked LOL

SHUT UP Backdoor

It won't happen but i wouldn't be sad if they got sacked.

Totally. Wasted cap space.

I seem to be on an island with my opinion but I don't see anything wrong with what they did. Storm in a teacup

Not alone, if it was nofo and AD no-one would care.

Just its two bludgers we wanna get rid of. Move on better stories out there i reckon.

 

[happy_tiger]

Now backdoor Benny Elias is offering his opinion. Calling for them both to be sacked LOL

SHUT UP Backdoor

It won't happen but i wouldn't be sad if they got sacked.

Totally. Wasted cap space.

I seem to be on an island with my opinion but I don't see anything wrong with what they did. Storm in a teacup

Unless they have broken a club rule I agree ...not a good look I agree but it isn't a crucifixion offence either

 

[happy_tiger]

But then again if they are in strife ...what about the No 7 ....he only showed up for the last 11 minutes when Manly were down to 14 players