Packer & Reynolds

[hammertime]

If this is true, and Madge seem to have confirmed it, it's really poor form.

it's an indication of just how invested these guys are in the team.

Madge has shrugged it off to the media but I reckon that privately he'll be fuming. I really hope he rips into them, but I guess we're never going to know.

Obviously can't terminate the contracts, I'm sure that they could fine each of them 25k. They could use the money to help give McIntyre a new contract and an upgrade.

I wish it came out of the cap, but it doesn't... so it would just help our bottom line.

 

[JD Tiger]

Did none of you mongs learn from the 'Joey walkout to Canberra' that wasn't a walkout.

This is media sensationalism and you're falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe wait till the club has it's proper say on the matter rather than taking the word of these scummy donut head journos...

If they did in fact leave early then so be it. Everyone knows these 2 aren't in the clubs long term plans, and both have been actively shopped around all year. They're surplus to requirements.

My only disappointment is that they didn't do anything worthy of contract termination. Maybe they should of stopped by the strippos on the way back then gotten into a fight in front of a kebab shop. Only for it all to be caught on camera... can only dream of such a scenario

I don't agree with this sentiment. Sure we'd like to get rid of them. Sure the media have caused an issue.

At the same time these guys should have stayed. They are highly paid and should be doing everything they can to get into the top team.

What you and I think these guys should do is irrelevant. In the end it's just a job. Some take it more seriously than others.

Signing these 2 on long term deals has, you could say, allowed the situation to occur. Having highly paid non performing squad members is the worst possible scenario for roster management.

They know the club doesn't want them and they can't get a better deal elsewhere. They'll do the bare minimum and milk the cow for all it's worth. Can't blame them. Any person would do the same and take advantage of the situation for their benefit.

I mean, they're highly paid to run around all week and keep fit. Dream job. And I doubt the other players look to them for leadership and motivation. So, they'll just take it as seriously as they have to until their contracts are up.

There’s expectations around this . To be apathetic and checked out , is natural and honestly expected
. But to leave at halftime , would be akin to one of us leaving early during a company meeting. Is it wrong ? No , not really ! If the State/ national manger finds out, then you are in a world of hurt . If not overtly then definitely in more subtle ways .
Why ? Because there are expectations that arnt laid out in any Manual or behaviour policy .
There are things like deny leave , not give good jobs to you, give you Friday afternoon crap jobs , and just generally make your life just a little bit harder than anybody else’s. It’s career suicide .

That’s what this is ! Career suicide

That's what I don't get. You look at ET at the moment, he may not be extended at the Tigers next year, but he is really putting in recently, showing us and other clubs that he would be a potentially good pickup to the roster.

But Packer? I know he has a year to go on his contract with us, but there is no way any club would take him at the moment. He has been absolutely terrible. His only highlight within the last year has been a good run into Matterson, which is something no other club would even care about. There was a rumour Dragons were considering him returning, but dead set, they'd have to be criminally insane to do that deal.

Reynolds didn't do himself any favours by that action of leaving as well, though he has at least worked hard when on the field, so at a reduced cost he may be attractive to some team after his contract is done. Packer's got no chance.

 

[Spartan117]

**Tigers greats call for club to stand down Packer and Reynolds**

**https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-greats-call-for-club-to-stand-down-packer-and-reynolds-20200907-p55t1f.html**


Wests Tigers' big earners Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer should be snubbed from selection the remainder of the season as punishment for their half-time Brookvale exit.

So say Tigers greats, who were stunned to learn Reynolds and Packer had left Lottoland early on Saturday night and were nowhere to be seen when their teammates staged one of the great late comebacks of the season to down the Sea Eagles 34-32.


While the club made it known they were not required to be at the game because they were not playing, you only have to look a little further west to realise Penrith, who lead the competition, have a policy in place that requires all 31 players in their 'bubble' to attend every home-and-away game in Sydney.

Sydney Roosters lock forward Victor Radley is out for the season with a knee injury but completed the three-hour round trip to Canberra on Saturday while injured South Sydney players not in the extended squad had no issues attending ANZ Stadium on Friday night.

"It's terrible, it's disgraceful, there's no respect and they're taking the mickey,'' legendary Tigers fullback Garry Jack said.

"I read somewhere they were cold. Well put a jumper on.

It's a sad reflection of the club. It was one of our greatest wins of the year and we should be talking about what a great victory it was. Those two, it shows where their heads are at.

"I wouldn't pick them again this year. It's all hands on deck because we're an outside chance to make the eight, and as a team you never know when you might need someone, but that would send a bad message to everyone else and imply it's acceptable because it's not.

"Discipline is a part of success. That showed a lack of discipline.''

Balmain's representative prop Steve Roach, who was at the ground on Saturday night, said: "They'd want a good excuse, but I don't think there is an excuse. A lot of it is about the coach trusting you. I don't think 'Madge' [Michael Maguire] will use them again.

"You can't not hang around. It's all about attitude, who knows if these guys would have been used next week, and you have to be ready. [Leaving early] is no preparation for a game.''

Should the Tigers defeat Souths on Thursday night, they will be right in the hunt for an overdue finals berth with games against Melbourne away and then Parramatta at home.

The Tigers ditched the team bus and allowed players to drive to the ground, especially with several players finding it easier to go straight to the ground rather than via their Concord base.

Packer and Reynolds are both off contract next year and have reportedly been told they are free to find a deal elsewhere. The Tigers were prepared to stump up more than $600,000 for Reynolds to return home to Canterbury when the season resumed after the COVID-19 shutdown, only for the Bulldogs board to pass.

Packer was part of the club's leadership group last season.

Tigers chairman Lee Hagipantelis told the Herald over the weekend: "It's not a good look for two of our players to leave at half-time.

"Strictly speaking, they weren't required to be there. Russell had to warm up with the team as 19th man but Josh didn't even warm up with the team. Both players have acknowledged their action creates a perception, but perception is not reality.

"I have spoken to both of them and they've acknowledged it wasn't a good look. There was no intention on their part to show disrespect or a lack of unity. Russell suffers from an arthritic condition and had multiple surgeries in his foot to try and help him play again. Sitting there in the cold does affect him, that is true.

 

[Chaos]

Did none of you learn from the 'Joey walkout to Canberra' that wasn't a walkout.

This is media sensationalism and you're falling for it hook line and sinker. Maybe wait till the club has it's proper say on the matter rather than taking the word of these scummy donut head journos...

If they did in fact leave early then so be it. Everyone knows these 2 aren't in the clubs long term plans, and both have been actively shopped around all year. They're surplus to requirements.

My only disappointment is that they didn't do anything worthy of contract termination. Maybe they should of stopped by the strippos on the way back then gotten into a fight in front of a kebab shop. Only for it all to be caught on camera... can only dream of such a scenario

In this case, the Journos reported something the players themselves admitted to the coach, that they bailed at half time.
Not sure what your saying tbh.
We all just disappointed as fans, because we tune in every week, some are members, some have Foxtel just to watch the games and support the team, we have not played finals football in what seems an eternity, while we all have our own views on what’s going at the club, we still support the team, and tune in every week.
But these guys who are on high dollars Can’t stuck around for the 80mins?
It’s pathetic.
Regardless if they weren’t required to be there, fact is, they showed up and they bailed on their team mates at half time when they were down.
As many have said, they should never play 1st grade for the tigers again.
Are they players we want to run out AFTER half time if we are losing? No.
They have shown No heart and no team spirit.

If you're not sure what I'm trying to say then read it again. I'm pretty clear. Most of what you said is irrelevant to my point.

Us fans have much higher standards than most players. We're emotionally invested. Majority of players are not. It's their job and some take it more seriously than others. What you and I think they should do means nothing.

These guys clearly aren't motivated because they know the club doesn't want them. But unfortunately that's not grounds to get rid of them. The long term deals they're on are the problem. Signing older players to big coin on lengthy deals creates this issues at all clubs if those players don't perform.

I was referring to the statement you made regarding the accuracy of the journalism and that we are all falling for it.
The accuracy was on point, potentially apart from the reason they left.
Now all that’s happening is the fallout from their own actions.
I don’t feel we are “Falling for anything”
And I was outlining the fact that us fans Stand by our team, yet these guys can’t do the same even when they are on high dollars, and if the players are not emotionally invested then that’s a negative of their own character.

 

[Russell]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

Pretty well always agree with your point of view TT. Not this time.

I don't care if they thought they didn't have to be there, the whole thirty players
should be there every week, if they are physically able. If so, they should be there
until the final siren.

As a supporter, I have never left a game early in 70 years, win, lose or draw.

These three guys should really be pulled over the coals, fined and somehow be
dismissed from the club. i.e. even paying up to 90% of their remaining contract
to play for someone else. That would at least solve part of the culture problem.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

**Tigers greats call for club to stand down Packer and Reynolds**

**https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-greats-call-for-club-to-stand-down-packer-and-reynolds-20200907-p55t1f.html**


Wests Tigers' big earners Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer should be snubbed from selection the remainder of the season as punishment for their half-time Brookvale exit.

So say Tigers greats, who were stunned to learn Reynolds and Packer had left Lottoland early on Saturday night and were nowhere to be seen when their teammates staged one of the great late comebacks of the season to down the Sea Eagles 34-32.


While the club made it known they were not required to be at the game because they were not playing, you only have to look a little further west to realise Penrith, who lead the competition, have a policy in place that requires all 31 players in their 'bubble' to attend every home-and-away game in Sydney.

Sydney Roosters lock forward Victor Radley is out for the season with a knee injury but completed the three-hour round trip to Canberra on Saturday while injured South Sydney players not in the extended squad had no issues attending ANZ Stadium on Friday night.

"It's terrible, it's disgraceful, there's no respect and they're taking the mickey,'' legendary Tigers fullback Garry Jack said.

"I read somewhere they were cold. Well put a jumper on.

It's a sad reflection of the club. It was one of our greatest wins of the year and we should be talking about what a great victory it was. Those two, it shows where their heads are at.

"I wouldn't pick them again this year. It's all hands on deck because we're an outside chance to make the eight, and as a team you never know when you might need someone, but that would send a bad message to everyone else and imply it's acceptable because it's not.

"Discipline is a part of success. That showed a lack of discipline.''

Balmain's representative prop Steve Roach, who was at the ground on Saturday night, said: "They'd want a good excuse, but I don't think there is an excuse. A lot of it is about the coach trusting you. I don't think 'Madge' [Michael Maguire] will use them again.

"Strictly speaking, they weren't required to be there. Russell had to warm up with the team as 19th man but Josh didn't even warm up with the team. Both players have acknowledged their action creates a perception, but perception is not reality.

"I have spoken to both of them and they've acknowledged it wasn't a good look. There was no intention on their part to show disrespect or a lack of unity. Russell suffers from an arthritic condition and had multiple surgeries in his foot to try and help him play again. Sitting there in the cold does affect him, that is true.

I would consider reviewing Packer’s contract! If he does not want to be here, the contract shall be made void, and let him run decoys for some other team!:-1: :angry:

 

[TrueTiger]

Just to put in my opinion and I will leave the emotions aside,my dislike for players etc and concentrate on the facts....
Packer was in the warm up in WTs colours ,he had an obligation as that squad member to stay...
Reynolds wasnt required to be at Brooky at all,but went in support but left at halftime,no obligation to be there at all...
MCK, I dont know but if he was required at Brooky he had an obligation to stay...

Many on here are venting their emotions on what they seem to think is right or wrong...
It is my opinion that the club should have in place criteria for playing and non playing squad members attendance rules and regulations in regard to them representing the Club...if you can bag out professional players for their obligations to the club,then maybe the club should have obligations set out and adhered to so everyone is on the same page in regards to gameday attendance ..

I will refer to INK saying I bang on relentlessly when I played...
I will clarify what I was expected to do when not playing..
I cracked my sternum and was out for 8 weeks,I went to games on my own volition not being required to attend,I would go in the dressing room and wish my mates the best and I would go to the bar and have a beer,sometimes I would walk over to the pub and have a beer at halftime and stay..
the end result was I would have a beer with the players after the game,most of the time they would thank me for coming in and wishing them the best...

pointbeing these guys are proffesional and the club should set out professional rules regarding what they expect of players...

 

[TrueTiger]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

Pretty well always agree with your point of view TT. Not this time.

I don't care if they thought they didn't have to be there, the whole thirty players
should be there every week, if they are physically able. If so, they should be there
until the final siren.

As a supporter, I have never left a game early in 70 years, win, lose or draw.

These three guys should really be pulled over the coals, fined and somehow be
dismissed from the club. i.e. even paying up to 90% of their remaining contract
to play for someone else. That would at least solve part of the culture problem.

As Lee said in the article "some of the squad didnt turn up...what should we do with them Russ...agree to disagree mate..

 

[Russell]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

Unfortunately he can't go if the Tigers want.

I have no agenda, pretty well always stood up for him.

Should never wear the jumper again - We need to get him and the other two out of here.

 

[Swordy]

Seems everyone has a somewhat similar view with a few differences. My view is this.

A good culture in a club means everyone is there, together, and that is their first priority. They make time. They do it because they want to be part of something special and drive each other.......voluntarily.

The club 'making' rules that you have to support your buddies, **which is sometimes you** when you make the squad, doesn't cut it for me. You have to WANT to be there. If you're not, that shows (to me anyway) your level of commitment to the cause, the team, the culture.

Personally, I would conditionally terminate their contracts, on full pay if need be. There is no obligation for the club to pick them so they can get their next contract and look good. Neither would play again for anyone if they sat out next year and it would be career over for both, so its in their best interests to do their best. This type of activity is very bad for unity and culture. I don't care how Macguire, Hagipantelis or Pascoe justify their actions with the 'well, they weren't obligated to be there'. That doesn't cut it for me. The obligation is a moral one, not a legal one. The strong teams have the morals, the guts, the commitment, the unity to be there AS A TEAM.

I say cut them loose.

 

[Russell]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

 

[Telltails]

Just to put in my opinion and I will leave the emotions aside,my dislike for players etc and concentrate on the facts....
Packer was in the warm up in WTs colours ,he had an obligation as that squad member to stay...
Reynolds wasnt required to be at Brooky at all,but went in support but left at halftime,no obligation to be there at all...
MCK, I dont know but if he was required at Brooky he had an obligation to stay...

Many on here are venting their emotions on what they seem to think is right or wrong...
It is my opinion that the club should have in place criteria for playing and non playing squad members attendance rules and regulations in regard to them representing the Club...if you can bag out professional players for their obligations to the club,then maybe the club should have obligations set out and adhered to so everyone is on the same page in regards to gameday attendance ..

I will refer to INK saying I bang on relentlessly when I played...
I will clarify what I was expected to do when not playing..
I cracked my sternum and was out for 8 weeks,I went to games on my own volition not being required to attend,I would go in the dressing room and wish my mates the best and I would go to the bar and have a beer,sometimes I would walk over to the pub and have a beer at halftime and stay..
the end result was I would have a beer with the players after the game,most of the time they would thank me for coming in and wishing them the best...

pointbeing these guys are proffesional and the club should set out professional rules regarding what they expect of players...

I think your first defence of Reynolds in this discussion TT was related to Benji being continually being picked over Reynolds so why wouldn't he up and leave at half time if the coach doesn't rate him.
I agree with you that definitive rules should be set in regard to the squad and attendance at games, but don't support your initial stance on Reynolds having good reason to leave.

 

[TrueTiger]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

 

[TrueTiger]

Just to put in my opinion and I will leave the emotions aside,my dislike for players etc and concentrate on the facts....
Packer was in the warm up in WTs colours ,he had an obligation as that squad member to stay...
Reynolds wasnt required to be at Brooky at all,but went in support but left at halftime,no obligation to be there at all...
MCK, I dont know but if he was required at Brooky he had an obligation to stay...

Many on here are venting their emotions on what they seem to think is right or wrong...
It is my opinion that the club should have in place criteria for playing and non playing squad members attendance rules and regulations in regard to them representing the Club...if you can bag out professional players for their obligations to the club,then maybe the club should have obligations set out and adhered to so everyone is on the same page in regards to gameday attendance ..

I will refer to INK saying I bang on relentlessly when I played...
I will clarify what I was expected to do when not playing..
I cracked my sternum and was out for 8 weeks,I went to games on my own volition not being required to attend,I would go in the dressing room and wish my mates the best and I would go to the bar and have a beer,sometimes I would walk over to the pub and have a beer at halftime and stay..
the end result was I would have a beer with the players after the game,most of the time they would thank me for coming in and wishing them the best...

pointbeing these guys are proffesional and the club should set out professional rules regarding what they expect of players...

I think your first defence of Reynolds in this discussion TT was related to Benji being continually being picked over Reynolds so why wouldn't he up and leave at half time if the coach doesn't rate him.
I agree with you that definitive rules should be set in regard to the squad and attendance at games, but don't support your initial stance on Reynolds having good reason to leave.

Yes agree I did throw a little shot in there re JR and Benji..thats on me ..but I will stick solid on the rest...

 

[Tiger5150]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

Haha a... Agenda?
The irony

The irony is ...it doesnt matter what JR does nobody wants him here...go see Ivan for that...
he wasnt required to be at the game but went and left at half time...so what ,the days of loyalty to the club and team was gone years ago,ask Tedesco,Moses and co...

Nobody wants him at any other club either. Wonder why?

Dont know mate ask his manager...

I think its pretty clear, poor player, injury prone, old, rubbish attitude. Not an attractive package.

A few people here inexplicably defending Reynolds. "He didnt have to be there"...etc etc..etc..It is mind blowing think people can defend this. You are a professional player, getting paid millions in a *team* sport. There are certain things a professional shouldnt need to be told. Get to training early/on time, get to a game on time, be there to support your team mates etc etc. Shouldnt have to be said.

A person in Reynolds position seriously should be in the sheds cleaning up, doing odd jobs, helping anyway he can. Extras at training etc etc.

I understand he is in a crappy position stuck behind Benji and it is obvious (thank God) that the club is trying to get rid of him, but he SHOULD be using this time to show himself in the best light to either Madge and the club or potential new employer.

I dont know JR but I do know people he hangs with. I know enough about him that this is true to his nature.

People here saying its understandable that he did this because he is unfairly stuck behind Benji (who is rubbish) are kidding themselves. This is WHY he is stuck behind Benji.

 

[Chaos]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

 

[Tiger5150]

Chaps, nothing will happen so lets not get excited, they both have contracts for next year. Don't get your hopes up that we can get rid of them, if we could have we would have. These two realize that they will never play 1st grade a another club or get another contract and that this is their last one and are ***"surfing this wave all the way to the sure". Meaning they have contracts and don't care.***

100% exactly, but they are also both cutting their own throats by making sure no other clubs will employ them on good $$$

 

[TrueTiger]

Packer and Reynolds should have to stand in front of the entire playing squad and coaching staff tomorrow morning and explain their reason for not showing any faith, respect, loyalty or leadership by abandoning the players by leaving at half time.

The players who bust their gut week in week out on a fraction of their pay packets like Harry Grant, Nofa, Josh Aloiai, McIntyre and Eisenhuth deserve an explanation.

I have taught my two sons from a young age that loyal fans always show their support and respect to the players by staying to the final siren irrespective of the result.

It is just the right thing to do.

Teach that to half the forum...""I really dont want to renew next year""...
""this club is a basket case and I dont want to have anything to do with them""


but crucify 2 players who werent required to play and left at halftime...

I'm not sure if you are serious..

these guys are employed to the tigers whereas we PAY.

ridiculous comparisons.

Yes they are employed by the Tigers....but Reynolds wasnt required to be there at all,but went and left at half time...not a ridiculous comparison at all when macca said you dont leave the game as a supporter no matter the result...you dont have to go to the game and stay all game if you dont want to its a fre world ...I choose to come and go as I please once again JR wasnt required to be there BUT went anyway...he can go at half time if he wants...

That's fine mate, I'm sure J Rey will appreciate your support but I don't appreciate his. Maybe he should offer to take half a pay cut to take one for the team. Well let's face it him and Russel are only half committed to the team as they have shown.

I couldnt care less if they go tommorrow,but Reynolds wasnt required to be there and went but left at halftime...you see the difference...

If he’s the highest paid player in the team he can go to the bloody game and stay til it ends. Leaving at half time is a slap in the face to all the fans, especially the ones who went to the game

Why is it a slap to the face for the fans...if he didnt turn up because he was at his mums house because he wasnt required at Brooky...whats the difference..they still can make choices if thier NOT required to be at a certain venue,,,,,he chose to go but left at half time....so what..

Don't think the Tigers are paying him 35k a game to stay at home with his Mum.

See Russ your letting your emotional opinion out again ...JR wasnt required at Brooky AT ALL...no arguement..

He should’ve just NOT showed up at all, the simple fact that he DID show up but left at half time while we were behind is the issue.
Absolutely no class at all.

Thats your opinion and you stick to it...Lee says otherwise and wasnt REQUIRED at all at Brooky...he still went when he didnt have to...

 

[Guest]

It seems the more professional clubs have their entire 30-31 man roster attend games - Penrith, Roosters and Souths have already been named. If that's not a WT policy, then it should be. Professionalism and discipline starts at the top, near enough is not good enough.

As for Reynolds and Packer, well if you turned up to watch the team play, disappearing at halftime is weak. Unless either one of them had a medical emergency to attend to, they should have stayed. It says more about their own mindset than anything and that's why no other club is silly enough to take them off our hands.

 

[Needaname]

It seems the more professional clubs have their entire 30-31 man roster attend games - Penrith, Roosters and Souths have already been named. If that's not a WT policy, then it should be. Professionalism and discipline starts at the top, near enough is not good enough.

As for Reynolds and Packer, well if you turned up to watch the team play, disappearing at halftime is weak. Unless either one of them had a medical emergency to attend to, they should have stayed. It says more about their own mindset than anything and that's why no other club is silly enough to take them off our hands.

That’s exactly correct.
Laughable that people are calling for heads to roll when our own office can’t confirm whether or not it’s a requirement.
Mandate it going forwards.
Players haven’t done anything wrong here now that it seems there are no standards in place.