Paps.....

@Geo said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205504) said:
Not sure what the point of this thread is...is it to get various spelling's of Papenhuyzen

Somebody used the word “lament.”
Therein lies the point, me thinks.
 
@tiger_one said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205506) said:
@Geo said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205504) said:
Not sure what the point of this thread is...is it to get various spelling's of Papenhuyzen

Somebody used the word “lament.”
Therein lies the point, me thinks.

Oh ..OK..carry on then..
 
@InBenjiWeTrust said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205400) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1204738) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1204404) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1204363) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1204343) said:
Been there done that. He was offered to clubs 18 months ago and no one wanted him, credit to him he's picked up since then.

Imagine the uproar if in 2016 the club said "sorry Teddy, we're not going to make you an offer, we have a 70 kg fullback coming through". Paps signed elsewhere while we thought Tedesco was going to stay.

It sucks but you have to grow up and suck it up. Sometimes stuff like this happens.

Stuff like this happens to WTs. And weight has noting to do with it. You will often find SAS troopers are the wiry types. Very very tough as is Papenhuyzen.

Weight has a lot to do with it. How many 80kg players do you see in rep teams? How many others are even consistent NRL players.

Maybe they all retire and become SAS troopers, but there are not many top NRL players the size of Paps. Paps made it against the odds, good luck to him.


Brett Hodgson anyone? Fantastic player, but probably only 150lbs wringing wet. Preston Campbell, Matt Bowen, Johnathon Thurston - he was no slouch, Geoff Toovey, Allan Langer, Ben Barba...

He was dismissed by many experts on this forum as 'too small', and as Te Maire Martin, considered a failure without given a chance!

The concerning thing is, this too small fetish was used again recently to describe a young player we have whom I believe has a lot to offer. History repeats; are any of those Cyrill Connell wannabees still involved with the Club?
 
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205369) said:
Paps went to Oakhill college and played union and league


AS did Keary....and my son
 
How come Wests Tigers has a huge NRL nursery compared to clubs like Roosters and Storm yet we are always lamenting that our juniors leave our club for greener pastures?
 
@TrueTiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1204022) said:
We had Papanhausen but everybody was to busy kissing Turdescos arse....

Tedesco ended up crapping in everyones mouth and meanwhile Paps goes and betters himself in a great system...he would of solved our fullback and goal kicking spots...ahhh well we are the wests tigers ...poor management and coaching since Sheens left ...says it all...

Hindsight is 20-20
 
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.
 
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

My opinion is purely based on the fact that Paps was one of our finer junior players but was well behind Tedesco in order of preference,yes Tedesco is a fantastic player who was one of ours and was pandered to because of his skillset ...he also wanted out when he reneged on the raiders deal and stayed,mainly because he was very well looked after when he was injured in his famous 20 minute debut and was sidelined for 12/14 months...he still went looking when he was taken by the Roosters...
My point is mainly the poor management at the time didnt see the potential that Paps had shown and they should of kept an eye on his future potential instead of just releasing him while Tedesco hummed and harred about his future...
 
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.
 
@TrueTiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205566) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

My opinion is purely based on the fact that Paps was one of our finer junior players but was well behind Tedesco in order of preference,yes Tedesco is a fantastic player who was one of ours and was pandered to because of his skillset ...he also wanted out when he reneged on the raiders deal and stayed,mainly because he was very well looked after when he was injured in his famous 20 minute debut and was sidelined for 12/14 months...he still went looking when he was taken by the Roosters...
My point is mainly the poor management at the time didnt see the potential that Paps had shown and they should of kept an eye on his future potential instead of just releasing him while Tedesco hummed and harred about his future...

There is some re writing of history here..Papenhuyzen was offered a contract by Wests Tigers..he wasn't shown the door ..Melbourne also offered a contract of similar value.....Papenhuyzen chose to go there..that is from his own mouth..
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205567) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.

And yet you were silent until he came into first grade.
 
@Newtown said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205517) said:
How come Wests Tigers has a huge NRL nursery compared to clubs like Roosters and Storm yet we are always lamenting that our juniors leave our club for greener pastures?


Its because Roosters & Storm have no juniors that they have to pinch ours.
 
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205569) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205567) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.

And yet you were silent until he came into first grade.

Go and do a little research. You will find quite an exchange on thus forum between Willow, a few others and I when it was learnt he was gone. The indisputable fact is, had it been a leading club, he would still be at the Club. Why is that? That's how top clubs stay at the top.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205579) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205569) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205567) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.

And yet you were silent until he came into first grade.

Go and do a little research. You will find quite an exchange on thus forum between Willow, a few others and I when it was learnt he was gone. The indisputable fact is, had it been a leading club, he would still be at the Club. Why is that? That's how top clubs stay at the top.

Don’t need to, there were no threads about him early last year or the year before.

Time to move on.
 
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205583) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205579) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205569) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205567) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.

And yet you were silent until he came into first grade.

Go and do a little research. You will find quite an exchange on thus forum between Willow, a few others and I when it was learnt he was gone. The indisputable fact is, had it been a leading club, he would still be at the Club. Why is that? That's how top clubs stay at the top.

Don’t need to, there were no threads about him early last year or the year before.

Time to move on.

So don't come on here suggesting this frustration is from bandwagoners. It is frustration born of inept recruitment and retention officers at the club at the time. A star dismissed with the 70kgs comment? Disgraceful.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205585) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205583) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205579) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205569) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205567) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

Some on here may have watched him through the Balmain juniors and knew what an outstanding footballer he was and would become.

And yet you were silent until he came into first grade.

Go and do a little research. You will find quite an exchange on thus forum between Willow, a few others and I when it was learnt he was gone. The indisputable fact is, had it been a leading club, he would still be at the Club. Why is that? That's how top clubs stay at the top.

Don’t need to, there were no threads about him early last year or the year before.

Time to move on.

So don't come on here suggesting this frustration is from bandwagoners. It is frustration born of inept recruitment and retention officers at the club at the time. A star dismissed with the 70kgs comment? Disgraceful.

It’s a forum. My comment was why should they have prioritised a 70kg fullback over a current origin fullback.

I’m convinced you’re related to him.
 
@Geo said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205568) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205566) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

My opinion is purely based on the fact that Paps was one of our finer junior players but was well behind Tedesco in order of preference,yes Tedesco is a fantastic player who was one of ours and was pandered to because of his skillset ...he also wanted out when he reneged on the raiders deal and stayed,mainly because he was very well looked after when he was injured in his famous 20 minute debut and was sidelined for 12/14 months...he still went looking when he was taken by the Roosters...
My point is mainly the poor management at the time didnt see the potential that Paps had shown and they should of kept an eye on his future potential instead of just releasing him while Tedesco hummed and harred about his future...

There is some re writing of history here..Papenhuyzen was offered a contract by Wests Tigers..he wasn't shown the door ..Melbourne also offered a contract of similar value.....Papenhuyzen chose to go there..that is from his own mouth..

Yes you probably are correct,but him taking the Melb offer would have been because he saw no future behind Tedesco ...it was Tedesco who should wear the brunt because he wanted out but dragged the club along until the Roosters deal came along....Tedesco may be a great player but Paps is the better person of character..
 
@TrueTiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205588) said:
@Geo said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205568) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205566) said:
@weststigerman said in [Paps\.\.\.\.\.](/post/1205531) said:
I find it funny that Paps who was unwanted 18 months ago is lamented more than the best player in the world who also used to play for us and has since gone on to win a premiership every year since he left.

I think some on here are related to him.

My opinion is purely based on the fact that Paps was one of our finer junior players but was well behind Tedesco in order of preference,yes Tedesco is a fantastic player who was one of ours and was pandered to because of his skillset ...he also wanted out when he reneged on the raiders deal and stayed,mainly because he was very well looked after when he was injured in his famous 20 minute debut and was sidelined for 12/14 months...he still went looking when he was taken by the Roosters...
My point is mainly the poor management at the time didnt see the potential that Paps had shown and they should of kept an eye on his future potential instead of just releasing him while Tedesco hummed and harred about his future...

There is some re writing of history here..Papenhuyzen was offered a contract by Wests Tigers..he wasn't shown the door ..Melbourne also offered a contract of similar value.....Papenhuyzen chose to go there..that is from his own mouth..

Yes you probably are correct,but him taking the Melb offer would have been because he saw no future behind Tedesco ...it was Tedesco who should wear the brunt because he wanted out but dragged the club along until the Roosters deal came along....Tedesco may be a great player but Paps is the better person of character..

Another little know fact is Papenhuyzen played his junior junior footy in the Parramatta district and failed to make their rep sides so moved over to Balmain with the Shammrocks..

So why did Parra let him go..
 

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