Paris under Terrorist attacks

lol education is based on religion. in the old times, education was learning about God and His world and that's it.

religion is not the motive, inhumanity is the motive. get rid of religion and they'll find something else to be violent about. we look at thousands who are violent coz of religion but don't look at millions who carry out peace keeping efforts and aides in the name of religion.
 
People have to hope in life and psychological belonging and even group entity, We are a complex being. For some WT is our group entity, hands up
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Reaping what we've sown as a species.

The difference between the haves and have nots is ridiculous. People are denied education. This is why they cling to religion and are easily turned to fanaticism in which you end up with lunatics eager to kill to please their sky daddies.

Something has to give otherwise we'll wipe ourselves out. Given what happens on a daily basis on this rock it might be a blessing for every other species on the planet.

Funny you say this. Reminds me of a clip of a list of future prophecies by Nostradamus that i watched recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_A2Hi-_i8

There's a prediction that the third Anti-Christ will rise out of Arabia and lead the biggest army ever seen through Europe and will create the biggest war ever known to man (sound familiar?). Another prediction, is that Scientists will research how to alter time to change the outcome of a war, most likely the one previously mentioned. Near the end of the war the research building where the time experiment takes place will be destroyed caused by vortex's of energy being created.

So, to sum up he predicts mankind to destroy itself, which seems like a pretty good summation.
 
@Pierre M7 said:
May we also keep Lebanon in our prayers as just 24 hours earlier, 43 people were killed & over 240 were injured during suicide bombing attacks by isis in Beirut. #PrayForBeirut #PrayForParis #PrayForWorldPeace

Pray also for the families of the over 200 who were in a civilian plane when it exploded over Egypt.
 
I hope this generation has the stomach for what is coming , and it is not overseas it is in our streets..the enermy is amongst us .
 
Over the years the West has tried to act as the peace keeper of the world but as impossible as it seemed there are a whole lot of other people out there that are opposed to world peace.
It seems that the West should have turned a blind eye to the massacres and other atrocitices committed against mankind instead of trying to prevent them, it now appears that we should just let the ISIS types run amok in their own little world and kill each other off instead of stepping in and trying to circumvent genocide, when they finish themselves off then perhaps there will be world peace!.
 
I'm wondering if this could be date related

WTC 11-9

Bali 12-10

Paris 13-11

Disgrace whatever way you look at it

Terrorists are the most gutless people in the World

Show a set , seriously , give someone a chance to at least defend themselves

Any of these scum that they do catch , should be left in a cell by themselves with ten family members and the police turn the cameras off

Bloody oath eye for an eye , don't deserve to be protected by the laws they purposely go and break
 
We won't be terrorised… We will continue to enjoy our free lives.. Enjoy music.. Good food.. Sports events
The national anthem sung by thousands of soccer fans is a big F you to the terrorists
 
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
Over the years the West has tried to act as the peace keeper of the world but as impossible as it seemed there are a whole lot of other people out there that are opposed to world peace.
It seems that the West should have turned a blind eye to the massacres and other atrocitices committed against mankind instead of trying to prevent them, it now appears that we should just let the ISIS types run amok in their own little world and kill each other off instead of stepping in and trying to circumvent genocide, when they finish themselves off then perhaps there will be world peace!.

The West is not completely innocent in the Middle East. After the demolition of the Ottoman Empire in World War One the West carved out different country boundaries that did not respect the Ottoman boundaries of ethnic and religious areas. The boundaries became what Britain, France, U.S.A. etc. wanted so they could divide and rule and get cheap oil etc.. They did the same in Africa lumping different tribes together that had being traditional enemies for centuries. The same formula left Palestinians without a land and are still refugees after 70 years.

But these current attacks are directly linked to the bombing of Isis in Syria and Iraq by France included. I believe that it is also cowardly to bomb innocent residents in the M/E just as happened to France now. The ingredients for these conflicts go back a hundred years ago.
 
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
Over the years the West has tried to act as the peace keeper of the world but as impossible as it seemed there are a whole lot of other people out there that are opposed to world peace.
It seems that the West should have turned a blind eye to the massacres and other atrocitices committed against mankind instead of trying to prevent them, it now appears that we should just let the ISIS types run amok in their own little world and kill each other off instead of stepping in and trying to circumvent genocide, when they finish themselves off then perhaps there will be world peace!.

Wish you were correct and it was that simple Leroy. There is obscene amounts of money pouring into western countries via arms sales and France is one of the big players in this deadly game.

Don't fall for the charade of a religious war, at the upper level this is about money and power, with gullible people and soldiers used as pawns. The anti Islamic rhetoric plays further into their hands to use terror as control. The western world never pointed the finger at Catholics for the atrocities committed by the IRA last century, as unlike now, it did not suit their agenda.

That said, another sad day.
 
@foreveratiger said:
The World is not safe and our Freedom around the World is being lost.

Paris Cobbs let us know any details and hope your safe mate.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/13/world/paris-shooting/

Thanks for the expressions of concern. Most of my family, including me, are in the south of France this week, except for my son-in-law, who was in Paris, La Defense - over on the opposite side of the city to the Bataclan, where the death metal gig was.

It is a horrible feeling to be so close to these events, but we have to count ourselves lucky in this case. I don't begin to understand how such things can happen, or what purpose they serve.

Thanks again for the concern.
 
@innsaneink said:
We won't be terrorised… We will continue to enjoy our free lives.. Enjoy music.. Good food.. Sports events
The national anthem sung by thousands of soccer fans is a big F you to the terrorists

yeah sure was, very good to see
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
@GoldXR50Leroy said:
Over the years the West has tried to act as the peace keeper of the world but as impossible as it seemed there are a whole lot of other people out there that are opposed to world peace.
It seems that the West should have turned a blind eye to the massacres and other atrocitices committed against mankind instead of trying to prevent them, it now appears that we should just let the ISIS types run amok in their own little world and kill each other off instead of stepping in and trying to circumvent genocide, when they finish themselves off then perhaps there will be world peace!.

The West is not completely innocent in the Middle East. After the demolition of the Ottoman Empire in World War One the West carved out different country boundaries that did not respect the Ottoman boundaries of ethnic and religious areas. The boundaries became what Britain, France, U.S.A. etc. wanted so they could divide and rule and get cheap oil etc.. They did the same in Africa lumping different tribes together that had being traditional enemies for centuries. The same formula left Palestinians without a land and are still refugees after 70 years.

But these current attacks are directly linked to the bombing of Isis in Syria and Iraq by France included. I believe that it is also cowardly to bomb innocent residents in the M/E just as happened to France now. The ingredients for these conflicts go back a hundred years ago.

It's a complicated issue, you could also add the CIA backed coup in Iran ousting the democratically elected President in the 50s….......and that one was over oil. All adding to the religiously motivated and probably for the majority, uneducated people carrying out and supporting this.

Also Western media only really emphasizing attacks on the West, meanwhile these sorts of atrocities are par for the course at the moment in the Middle East.

One of the things that really stood out for me was that apparently one of the attackers shouting out "This is for Syria" or words to that effect...............yet these IS morons are the ones who have killed way more Syrians than anyone else.
 
Politics and sport do not mix, my views on this subject are **<big>VERY</big>** politically incorrect.
 
I think it time we as a country stood up and stop our goverment from bring any more muslims to this country, i feel sorry for those who are been killed over there but all we are doing is bring there problems to are door. and its funny how not of the big muslim countrys have not taken 1 refugee.
 
Its an epidemic, and the answer is impossible to find. Lets not pretend America are clean skins, they have blood on their hands. It was only about 2 months ago they blew up a hospital somewhere in the Middle East. They have been at war for something like 200 of the last 220 yrs or something. One could say it would solve a lot of the worlds problems if they stopped meddling in other nations affairs and stopped invading countries for their own financial gain.

As far as the other side goes, a lot of people say ''just bomb them''. Well that's the problem, we did. That's how ISIS was formed. They were formed as a result of the Iraq war. For every action there is a reaction. No matter how much you bomb them, seeds of hate will grow out of the ruins and seek revenge. I've even heard people say just drop a nuclear bomb on the whole Middle East. Not only would you be killing millions of innocents, you'd also be setting in motion the millions and millions of Muslims around the world who would retaliate as a result. So bombing isn't the answer. But at the same time sitting back and just allowing things to happen isn't the answer either. So what do you do?
 
@bp tiger said:
I think it time we as a country stood up and stop our goverment from bring any more muslims to this country, i feel sorry for those who are been killed over there but all we are doing is bring there problems to are door. and its funny how not of the big muslim countrys have not taken 1 refugee.

It is clear to see that the Muslim countries are split by religion (who has heritage rights?), ethnic and political differences. Most of these countries and rulers were activated by Western powers so as to divide and rule yet you want them to work miracles and hug and kiss. The big surge of Muslims came because of the Lebanese Civil War that was help ignited by the creation of the State of Israel. This creation resulted in millions of Palestinian refugees into Lebanon that upset the delicate balance of power in Lebanon, leading to the Civil War.

Why is this Aussie's concern? Have a geek here http://middleeastrealitycheck.blogspot.com.au/2009/12/doctor-who.html
Doc Evatt was quite instrumental in the setting up of the Zionist state, we helped create the millions of refugees that were obviously going to be created so it is also our responsibility to take them in. If we would have kept our nose out of it we could turn our backs on them maybe.

On and on we go. It was none of our business getting rid of Saddam, we stuck our big noses in and that has helped create millions of refugees and Isis.

Sending the jets and big artillery over is the easy part but we love doing it. We have created our own enemies.
 
Interesting, France wanted to recognize Palestine as a state and they were boycotting Israel so it has been argued Netanyahu over in Israel/ISIS ordered a terrorist attack in France through Mossad/ISIS. He even warned them. Netanyahu said it would be a "grave" mistake to recognise Palestine.

Interesting how this incident has generated so much publicity but everyday there are mass deaths (What happened is so sad in Paris and unbelievable but isn't this Palestine every single day?). Close to 40 died in Beirut over night. 20 died in Baghdad overnight. Over 40 died in NIgeria 2 weeks ago. There are so many everyday…
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
@bp tiger said:
Why is this Aussie's concern? Have a geek here http://middleeastrealitycheck.blogspot.com.au/2009/12/doctor-who.html
Doc Evatt was quite instrumental in the setting up of the Zionist state, we helped create the millions of refugees that were obviously going to be created so it is also our responsibility to take them in. If we would have kept our nose out of it we could turn our backs on them maybe.

On and on we go. It was none of our business getting rid of Saddam, we stuck our big noses in and that has helped create millions of refugees and Isis.

Sending the jets and big artillery over is the easy part but we love doing it. We have created our own enemies.

Pretty depressing when you travel to Belguim/Europe/Okinawa/Seoul etc and you see American soldiers everywhere…

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/8/24/70-years-after-the-war-okinawa-protests-new-us-military-base.html
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Me and a mate just came back from travelling the silk road through Tehran, Samarkand, Bishkek (All predominantly Islamic countries. etc and I've travelled a lot (USA, Europe etc) and have not met people as friendly as this trip. We were invited to so many homes and given fruit and dinner...
 
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