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2:09pm November 16, 2015
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Muslim Sydney Uber driver in tears over Paris attacks

A Muslim Uber driver from Sydney has broken down in tears over the Paris terrorist attacks in a poignant moment that has now gone viral.In a Facebook post penned by Australian musician Darren Hanlon, he told how the driver had picked him up outside a Sydney car dealership on Saturday evening.

“I sunk down in the seat and we settled into the usual small talk, his shift hours and workload,” Hanlon wrote. But the conversation soon took a serious turn as the driver brought up the topic of the terror attacks that had killed 129 people. “I can’t understand these people who go around killing other people … in cold blood,” Hanlon said the Indian-born driver told him.

“Although it’s been on everyone’s mind today it was still an abrupt shift,” Hanlon wrote. “I recognised the moment that sometimes happens in the driver/passenger relationship where the banal switches to the deeply personal, the freedom allowed strangers who are trapped in a finite time period together.” “I’m a Muslim ... And this is not what I was taught as a child,” the driver told Hanlon. Hanlon said he looked over “to see him wipe tears from his eyes”. The driver told him he had been praying at a mosque for most of the day after hearing about the attacks.

When asked by Hanlon if Islam had a basic law, like the Bible, that said ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill’, the driver replied: “Of course!” “The second highest law says that if you kill a single soul it’s like killing the soul of all humanity. If you save a single soul, you save all humanity,” the driver said.

Hanlon, whose post has been liked more than 15,000 times, ended his account by saying he did not want it to be “some kind of statement”. “I just want to tell you about my brief random conversation with a sad Muslim Sydney Uber driver, whose religion is being taken from him.”
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@eyewonder said:
thankyou tigerdave with your link to the definition of caliphate.

so if their aim is to take over the world and kill anyone who doesnt believe in the koran,i think the time for sitting on our hands is over.

perhaps isis needs to reflect on the things the western world is useful for- medicine,electricity,technology,transport,food etc

certainly blowing up things and killing innocent people is their forte- nothing else.

if it was my son,daughter,mother or father who has been a victim of terrorism i wouldnt be lighting candles and singing warm fuzzy songs at community vigils.

i would want retribution.

right wing view, of course but i think im part of a growing silent minority.

I don't think too many people have problems with violently dealing with ISIS and similar groups, the problem is that people just don't like to be specific, they lump all Muslims into one basket and that's it. People from the far right have latched onto that and are pushing their own agenda's and well.

Fortunately, them trying to take over the world will never happen. Just like Communism, the Islamist ideology will eat itself (there's quite a few who joined ISIS who have left or have been beheaded trying to leave), unfortunately it will be taking a lot of innocent people with it before that happens.
 
@Chris said:
Up until 15-20 years ago, the western world never had problems until they started this almighty way of thinking of "we can't upset other religions" or "we have to consider other people who come from different countries."

Really? Your definition of 'problems' must be wonderfully selective.
 
@Chris said:
I'll bet anything that there wont be any terrorist attacks on Russian soil by ISIS or any Islamic groups.

There has already been plenty.

I hear what you are stating but I don't have an answer to this situation and I don't think anyone else does either.

Bomb them. It sounds good and it might work. It also might create a whole new generation of terrorists.
You can't invade as its too costly for us.
They don't need much funding so you can't get rid of the finances.
You can't reason with them because they are crazy.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@Tiger Watto said:
@tsjonathan said:
Is there a Syria thread? Nigeria? Lebanon? Yemeni? Palestinian (over 100 people die there everyday right?)?

I think its really sad we only react to what is sold to us by the powers to be… As I stated earlier, IS have killed more Muslims than any other religion combined but no one is jumping up and down.

There's footage this morning of people wounded and dying from the French bombing Syria but that's not important.

I also hear what you are stating but here is the thing. Where does the line get drawn ? You can't keep allowing this sort of stuff to happen.
 
@hammertime said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
Well if you want to toe the official line with 9/11, there were actually a few motives for it if you dig deep enough. The US' military presence in Saudi Arabia, the US' support of Israel and sanctions that had been imposed on Iraq were all potential motives.

The motives for Charlie Hebdo are pretty well known, with their vulgar cartoons of Muhammad. One cartoon they actually mocked a little Syrian girl who had drowned in the ocean. So while that act was heinous and they didn't deserve it, they weren't exactly innocent bystanders.

I don't have a solution. I just know that bombing isn't the solution as it doesn't fix the issue, it just inflames it.

You actually think any of those are justifiable motives for ramming some planes into a tower or massacring a office that drew a cartoon? Keep finding ways to blame the victims mate…

Exactly. There are no motives whatsoever for the terrorist actions. The terrorists could just get on with their lives and ignore all of the stuff that supposedly offends them. I'm offended when the Tigers lose. I'm offended at the jokes against the Tigers. Is that a reason for me to kill a bunch of innocent people - no.
 
The Sunnis in Iraq were probably privileged and protected by Saddam, when we got rid of him the Shiites took revenge and absolutely no one came to their aid. There were distinct Sunni and Shiite areas of Iraq and Syria before the subdivision by western countries after WW1\. The Sunnis gained control in the Sunni areas and went about expelling all non Sunni - basically getting their original territory back. We got upset because a few heads got lumped off but if they were not Aussie heads probably none of our business. When Syria went into civil war the Syrian Sunni joined with the Iraqi Sunni. There is method behind their madness - their own protection when the new Iraqi govt abandoned them.
 
@Chris said:
@Byron Bay Fan said:
It was not Bob Brown at all whom let the Muslims in, it was Mal Fraser against the advice of the Christian local Lebanese

I wasn't inferring that Bob Brown let them in, I meant that him and his ilk at the Greens were the catalysts to us losing our culture and way of life through fear of offending minority groups.

I love Muslims. You meet so many lovely Muslims traveling on the Silk road. So friendly and they invite you for tea and give you lots of food. My mate got so much pomegranate. The art and all the intricacies of the culture is so fascinating- the way they wipe their face before they eat. This guy sat with is in a restaurant in Tehran and gave us his bread for the noodles we were eating, quite funny. Then you get to Kashgar and you see the influence of the Stans and Chinese in the area. Religion can be beautiful but a small minority take it the wrong way.

I don;t know about the zionists though and Netanyahu especially after France suppprted Palestine…
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
The Sunnis in Iraq were probably privileged and protected by Saddam, when we got rid of him the Shiites took revenge and absolutely no one came to their aid. There were distinct Sunni and Shiite areas of Iraq and Syria before the subdivision by western countries after WW1\. The Sunnis gained control in the Sunni areas and went about expelling all non Sunni - basically getting their original territory back. We got upset because a few heads got lumped off but if they were not Aussie heads probably none of our business. When Syria went into civil war the Syrian Sunni joined with the Iraqi Sunni. There is method behind their madness - their own protection when the new Iraqi govt abandoned them.

Yep… None of our business.

Should of let Hitler get on with his job also 😕
 
Tiger Watto, Hitler was attacking other country's borders, that is historic non-Germanic countries and they still had Germany. Whereas the Sunnis had no safe haven in Iraq under western carve up. They did under Ottomans and Saddam.

Compare apple with apples and Tigers with Broncos, not Tigers with Opals basket ball team.
 
Hitler wasnt attacking other countries, he was attacking humanity based on his ideologies.

At no stage should Australians turn a blind eye to the atrocities being committed, as before we know it they will be upon our shores.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Hitler wasnt attacking other countries, he was attacking humanity based on his ideologies.

At no stage should Australians turn a blind eye to the atrocities being committed, as before we know it they will be upon our shores.

They are already in our midst due to us getting into their kerfuffle over the past century. Our help in breaking up the Ottoman Empire was fine with them but everything since that has been halitosis except for accepting some of the refugees here that we helped create. We have probably given generously for years to UN refugee body for Palestine.

Before you pick on them solve the Palestinian crisis that Australia directly helped in creating 70 years ago, that was incredible to commentators at the time, they could not believe such a disastreous result.
 
@Byron Bay Fan said:
@Tiger Watto said:
Hitler wasnt attacking other countries, he was attacking humanity based on his ideologies.

At no stage should Australians turn a blind eye to the atrocities being committed, as before we know it they will be upon our shores.

They are already in our midst due to us getting into their kerfuffle over the past century. Our help in breaking up the Ottoman Empire was fine with them but everything since that has been halitosis except for accepting some of the refugees here that we helped create. We have probably given generously for years to UN refugee body for Palestine.

Before you pick on them solve the Palestinian crisis that Australia directly helped in creating 70 years ago, that was incredible to commentators at the time, they could not believe such a disastreous result.

C'mon… I married one. Surely that is enough? :laughing:
 
@tsjonathan said:
I love Muslims. You meet so many lovely Muslims traveling on the Silk road. So friendly and they invite you for tea and give you lots of food. My mate got so much pomegranate. The art and all the intricacies of the culture is so fascinating- the way they wipe their face before they eat. This guy sat with is in a restaurant in Tehran and gave us his bread for the noodles we were eating, quite funny. Then you get to Kashgar and you see the influence of the Stans and Chinese in the area. Religion can be beautiful but a small minority take it the wrong way.

I don;t know about the zionists though and Netanyahu especially after France suppprted Palestine…

I traveled through the Middle East for a couple of years in 2006 and 2007, Ive lived in Egypt for 6 months. Only once did I fell unsafe (ill explain shortly) I always made sure people knew I was an Aussie and not an American and the Americans I met on the road always had a maple leaf on their gear in the guise of being Canadian.

Syria was and I still say to people today, the best country i have ever been to and ive been to over 75 countries. The people absolutely made the place. The most welcoming kind hearted people that offered what they had when they had very little to offer. Countless stories of being invited into homes, my dinner being paid for at restaurants because a local come along, sat next to me and chatted for a bit, just a chance to talk to someone from abroad and hear my uneditored thoughts on things around the world and on Syria. id get up to pay for my meal and the bill had been paid.

None of that had anything to do with with being a muslim. NONE OF IT. They were inherently nice people.

What being a muslim did have to offer was this - As i sat on a 50 year old rickety bus from Homs to Damascus the usual cheap D grade middle eastern action movie was playing on the 12 inch TV above the drivers head. There was a scene of some fighter jets in a dogfight, one of the jets got hit and a ludicrous cut scene of a plane slamming into the twin towers and the towers collapsing, all around me EVERYONE started clapping, cheering, yelling Allah Akbah, at the very moment how do you reckon whitey felt on that bus? All i could do was sink into the seat and wish i could have just vanished into thin air. RIP 2977 people that just died in that cut scene.

To think that this country is now turned into what it is today is just sickening. How many of those lovely people that I had meet are now dead, have fled or are they themselves committing the atrocities that we see nightly on our watered down dinner table news, all in the name of Islam. The ISLAMIC state of Iraq and the Levant, the clue is in the name.

I would never say I love Muslims, I dont, I love humanity, religion has nothing to do with being an inherently nice person and everything to do with being a bad one, I despise the brainwashings that all religions offer.

Ill sign off this post in the words and teachings of Muhammed the Prophet of Islam

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"
 
@fairdinkum said:
@tsjonathan said:
I love Muslims. You meet so many lovely Muslims traveling on the Silk road. So friendly and they invite you for tea and give you lots of food. My mate got so much pomegranate. The art and all the intricacies of the culture is so fascinating- the way they wipe their face before they eat. This guy sat with is in a restaurant in Tehran and gave us his bread for the noodles we were eating, quite funny. Then you get to Kashgar and you see the influence of the Stans and Chinese in the area. Religion can be beautiful but a small minority take it the wrong way.

I don;t know about the zionists though and Netanyahu especially after France suppprted Palestine…

I traveled through the Middle East for a couple of years in 2006 and 2007, Ive lived in Egypt for 6 months. Only once did I fell unsafe (ill explain shortly) I always made sure people knew I was an Aussie and not an American and the Americans I met on the road always had a maple leaf on their gear in the guise of being Canadian.

Syria was and I still say to people today, the best country i have ever been to and ive been to over 75 countries. The people absolutely made the place. The most welcoming kind hearted people that offered what they had when they had very little to offer. Countless stories of being invited into homes, my dinner being paid for at restaurants because a local come along, sat next to me and chatted for a bit, just a chance to talk to someone from abroad and hear my uneditored thoughts on things around the world and on Syria. id get up to pay for my meal and the bill had been paid.

None of that had anything to do with with being a muslim. NONE OF IT. They were inherently nice people.

What being a muslim did have to offer was this - As i sat on a 50 year old rickety bus from Homs to Damascus the usual cheap D grade middle eastern action movie was playing on the 12 inch TV above the drivers head. There was a scene of some fighter jets in a dogfight, one of the jets got hit and a ludicrous cut scene of a plane slamming into the twin towers and the towers collapsing, all around me EVERYONE started clapping, cheering, yelling Allah Akbah, at the very moment how do you reckon whitey felt on that bus? All i could do was sink into the seat and wish i could have just vanished into thin air. RIP 2977 people that just died in that cut scene.

To think that this country is now turned into what it is today is just sickening. How many of those lovely people that I had meet are now dead, have fled or are they themselves committing the atrocities that we see nightly on our watered down dinner table news, all in the name of Islam. The ISLAMIC state of Iraq and the Levant, the clue is in the name.

I would never say I love Muslims, I dont, I love humanity, religion has nothing to do with being an inherently nice person and everything to do with being a bad one, I despise the brainwashings that all religions offer.

Ill sign off this post in the words and teachings of Muhammed the Prophet of Islam

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Sounds utterly Amazing. Hope one day I'll get to go to Syria and surrounding areas. So much cultural history. So much of what we do today was influenced by what happened there over 2000 years ago.

Our trip through the Stans, Samarkand, The Taklamakan into China was simply amazing. Better than anything I have experienced in the U.S/Europe…
 
@fairdinkum said:
@tsjonathan said:
I love Muslims. You meet so many lovely Muslims traveling on the Silk road. So friendly and they invite you for tea and give you lots of food. My mate got so much pomegranate. The art and all the intricacies of the culture is so fascinating- the way they wipe their face before they eat. This guy sat with is in a restaurant in Tehran and gave us his bread for the noodles we were eating, quite funny. Then you get to Kashgar and you see the influence of the Stans and Chinese in the area. Religion can be beautiful but a small minority take it the wrong way.

I don;t know about the zionists though and Netanyahu especially after France suppprted Palestine…

I traveled through the Middle East for a couple of years in 2006 and 2007, Ive lived in Egypt for 6 months. Only once did I fell unsafe (ill explain shortly) I always made sure people knew I was an Aussie and not an American and the Americans I met on the road always had a maple leaf on their gear in the guise of being Canadian.

Syria was and I still say to people today, the best country i have ever been to and ive been to over 75 countries. The people absolutely made the place. The most welcoming kind hearted people that offered what they had when they had very little to offer. Countless stories of being invited into homes, my dinner being paid for at restaurants because a local come along, sat next to me and chatted for a bit, just a chance to talk to someone from abroad and hear my uneditored thoughts on things around the world and on Syria. id get up to pay for my meal and the bill had been paid.

None of that had anything to do with with being a muslim. NONE OF IT. They were inherently nice people.

What being a muslim did have to offer was this - As i sat on a 50 year old rickety bus from Homs to Damascus the usual cheap D grade middle eastern action movie was playing on the 12 inch TV above the drivers head. There was a scene of some fighter jets in a dogfight, one of the jets got hit and a ludicrous cut scene of a plane slamming into the twin towers and the towers collapsing, all around me EVERYONE started clapping, cheering, yelling Allah Akbah, at the very moment how do you reckon whitey felt on that bus? All i could do was sink into the seat and wish i could have just vanished into thin air. RIP 2977 people that just died in that cut scene.

To think that this country is now turned into what it is today is just sickening. How many of those lovely people that I had meet are now dead, have fled or are they themselves committing the atrocities that we see nightly on our watered down dinner table news, all in the name of Islam. The ISLAMIC state of Iraq and the Levant, the clue is in the name.

I would never say I love Muslims, I dont, I love humanity, religion has nothing to do with being an inherently nice person and everything to do with being a bad one, I despise the brainwashings that all religions offer.

Ill sign off this post in the words and teachings of Muhammed the Prophet of Islam

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Sorry to hijack the thread but did you buy any rugs? I have such an appreciation for them now…
 
@tsjonathan said:
@fairdinkum said:
@tsjonathan said:
I love Muslims. You meet so many lovely Muslims traveling on the Silk road. So friendly and they invite you for tea and give you lots of food. My mate got so much pomegranate. The art and all the intricacies of the culture is so fascinating- the way they wipe their face before they eat. This guy sat with is in a restaurant in Tehran and gave us his bread for the noodles we were eating, quite funny. Then you get to Kashgar and you see the influence of the Stans and Chinese in the area. Religion can be beautiful but a small minority take it the wrong way.

I don;t know about the zionists though and Netanyahu especially after France suppprted Palestine…

I traveled through the Middle East for a couple of years in 2006 and 2007, Ive lived in Egypt for 6 months. Only once did I fell unsafe (ill explain shortly) I always made sure people knew I was an Aussie and not an American and the Americans I met on the road always had a maple leaf on their gear in the guise of being Canadian.

Syria was and I still say to people today, the best country i have ever been to and ive been to over 75 countries. The people absolutely made the place. The most welcoming kind hearted people that offered what they had when they had very little to offer. Countless stories of being invited into homes, my dinner being paid for at restaurants because a local come along, sat next to me and chatted for a bit, just a chance to talk to someone from abroad and hear my uneditored thoughts on things around the world and on Syria. id get up to pay for my meal and the bill had been paid.

None of that had anything to do with with being a muslim. NONE OF IT. They were inherently nice people.

What being a muslim did have to offer was this - As i sat on a 50 year old rickety bus from Homs to Damascus the usual cheap D grade middle eastern action movie was playing on the 12 inch TV above the drivers head. There was a scene of some fighter jets in a dogfight, one of the jets got hit and a ludicrous cut scene of a plane slamming into the twin towers and the towers collapsing, all around me EVERYONE started clapping, cheering, yelling Allah Akbah, at the very moment how do you reckon whitey felt on that bus? All i could do was sink into the seat and wish i could have just vanished into thin air. RIP 2977 people that just died in that cut scene.

To think that this country is now turned into what it is today is just sickening. How many of those lovely people that I had meet are now dead, have fled or are they themselves committing the atrocities that we see nightly on our watered down dinner table news, all in the name of Islam. The ISLAMIC state of Iraq and the Levant, the clue is in the name.

I would never say I love Muslims, I dont, I love humanity, religion has nothing to do with being an inherently nice person and everything to do with being a bad one, I despise the brainwashings that all religions offer.

Ill sign off this post in the words and teachings of Muhammed the Prophet of Islam

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

Sorry to hijack the thread but did you buy any rugs? I have such an appreciation for them now…

No, I didnt buy any rugs. They wouldnt have fit in my backpack and there was no DHL in most of the parts of the world I was travelling. I did however accept all of their apple tea and chats.

The only thing I purchased and posted during my time in the middle east was when I lived in Egypt. From Cairo I posted a magnificent gold leaf hooka with inlays of king tut and a backgammon set made from bone and mother of pearl, both take pride of place in my man cave today.

Actually now that I think about it, In 2006 I posted from Turkey, real turkish delight to my mum and nan that got to them the friday before mothers day. perfect timing.
 
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