Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[gallagher]

Maybe not but these other clubs have done much which went unpunished by the NRL. **Where is the level field?**

I have no idea how people can say we've been treated fairly.
The club has been categorised, sanctioned and are probably being investigated similarly to the clubs that paid multiple players under the table. This totally negates any claim the NRL are acting impartially, IMO.

They have not been sanctioned in the same category as the majority of the other clubs. Greenburg also stated that the commission has ask them to give tougher penalties so these penalties will have to be compared to the clubs that breach the cap in the future.

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I have no idea how people can say we've been treated fairly.
The club has been categorised, sanctioned and are probably being investigated similarly to the clubs that paid multiple players under the table. This totally negates any claim the NRL are acting impartially, IMO.

They have not been sanctioned in the same category as the majority of the other clubs. Greenburg also stated that the commission has ask them to give tougher penalties so these penalties will have to be compared to the clubs that breach the cap in the future.

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.

We’ve already been told countless times by objective posters that all those other teams got off scot free. Despite stripped premierships, loss of competition points, and millions of dollars worth of fines. We are the ones who have really copped it ?

 

[cochise]

They have not been sanctioned in the same category as the majority of the other clubs. Greenburg also stated that the commission has ask them to give tougher penalties so these penalties will have to be compared to the clubs that breach the cap in the future.

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.

We’ve already been told countless times by objective posters that all those other teams got off scot free. Despite stripped premierships, loss of competition points, and millions of dollars worth of fines. We are the ones who have really copped it ?

I just do not get the argument that the Tigers have been hit harder than the club from the past.

 

[gallagher]

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.

We’ve already been told countless times by objective posters that all those other teams got off scot free. Despite stripped premierships, loss of competition points, and millions of dollars worth of fines. We are the ones who have really copped it ?

I just do not get the argument that the Tigers have been hit harder than the club from the past.

Thats because your an NRL infiltrator :roll

 

[cochise]

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.

We’ve already been told countless times by objective posters that all those other teams got off scot free. Despite stripped premierships, loss of competition points, and millions of dollars worth of fines. We are the ones who have really copped it ?

I just do not get the argument that the Tigers have been hit harder than the club from the past.

Thats because your an NRL infiltrator :roll

Yeah I must remember to get my Wests Tigers prescription glasses replaced.

 

[Tarl]

The difference is simple: The other clubs punished seemed to know exactly what they were doing to get an advantage, whereas this situation with Pascoe/Robbie seems to be trying to do right by a club legend with no advantage to onfield results.

 

[cochise]

The difference is simple: The other clubs punished seemed to know exactly what they were doing to get an advantage, whereas this situation with Pascoe/Robbie seems to be trying to do right by a club legend with no advantage to onfield results.

Except the NRL believe that is not the case.

 

[Russell]

The NRL has no idea cochise.

You should try out as a public defender for them.

No one would try harder I'm sure.

 

[Lauren]

I have no idea how people can say we've been treated fairly.
The club has been categorised, sanctioned and are probably being investigated similarly to the clubs that paid multiple players under the table. This totally negates any claim the NRL are acting impartially, IMO.

They have not been sanctioned in the same category as the majority of the other clubs. Greenburg also stated that the commission has ask them to give tougher penalties so these penalties will have to be compared to the clubs that breach the cap in the future.

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. **Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.**

There is no way to give a fair comparison which has been my point all along.
Club A - Use underhanded methods by paying players 1,2,3,4 and 5 and be $500k-$1mil over the cap.
Club B - Offer player post-career job and don’t declare this role with the NRL.

FYI Parra only received a $1mil fine. And why wouldn’t include the cap reduction penalty when I’m talking overall financial penalties.

 

[hobbo]

The NRL has no idea cochise.

You should try out as a public defender for them.

No one would try harder I'm sure.

He/she must be Todd’s personal secretary :laughing:

 

[cochise]

They have not been sanctioned in the same category as the majority of the other clubs. Greenburg also stated that the commission has ask them to give tougher penalties so these penalties will have to be compared to the clubs that breach the cap in the future.

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. **Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.**

There is no way to give a fair comparison which has been my point all along.
Club A - Use underhanded methods by paying players 1,2,3,4 and 5 and be $500k-$1mil over the cap.
Club B - Offer player post-career job and don’t declare this role with the NRL.

FYI Parra only received a $1mil fine. And why wouldn’t include the cap reduction penalty when I’m talking overall financial penalties.

Why did you leave out their points penalties?

 

[Lauren]

1) We have been sanctioned over an alleged - or attempted- **breach of the salary cap.**
_Melbourne, Manly and Eels were all done for breaches of the salary cap._
2) Our financial penalties are reflective of this, as they are in the same/similar capacity of those who have systematically rorted the cap.
_Melbourne got fined $300k more than us, Parra $300k less and Manly $600k less_
These are actual solid facts, so IDK how you can deny that we are not being categorised similarly or the same?

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. **Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.**

There is no way to give a fair comparison which has been my point all along.
Club A - Use underhanded methods by paying players 1,2,3,4 and 5 and be $500k-$1mil over the cap.
Club B - Offer player post-career job and don’t declare this role with the NRL.

FYI Parra only received a $1mil fine. And why wouldn’t include the cap reduction penalty when I’m talking overall financial penalties.

Why did you leave out their points penalties?

Well unless they moved us to 16th place for 2016, 2017 and 2018 I can’t really use us in comparison can I ?

 

[cochise]

The NRL has no idea cochise.

You should try out as a public defender for them.

No one would try harder I'm sure.

No I can look at this objectively and see what the Tigers did looks incredibly dodgy.

 

[cochise]

Rubbery figures. Melb got fine $1.6m, Parra $1.3mill. We got done $750k.

If your including our cap reduction then surely you would note their premiership points reductions. **Thats IF youre interested in a fair comparison.**

There is no way to give a fair comparison which has been my point all along.
Club A - Use underhanded methods by paying players 1,2,3,4 and 5 and be $500k-$1mil over the cap.
Club B - Offer player post-career job and don’t declare this role with the NRL.

FYI Parra only received a $1mil fine. And why wouldn’t include the cap reduction penalty when I’m talking overall financial penalties.

Why did you leave out their points penalties?

Well unless they moved us to 16th place for 2016, 2017 and 2018 I can’t really use us in comparison can I ?

So you leave it out completely and thus make your argument appear stronger than it is. That a terrible reason, here I'll make the comparison for you.

They were docked points and we weren't!

 

[JD Tiger]

The NRL has no idea cochise.

You should try out as a public defender for them.

No one would try harder I'm sure.

No I can look at this objectively and see what the Tigers did looks incredibly dodgy.

You have been given information on which you have based your opinions. You have relayed that information, and others have made their opinions. Don't presume to think you are being objective where others are not. It is all still just personal opinions.

I am concerned that we will never know what has happened. If the NRL keeps to their version that WT deliberately cheated, and WT keeps saying that no we did not, how will we ever know what really happened? I'd really like to know, one way or the other.

 

[newtiger]

The difference is simple: The other clubs punished seemed to know exactly what they were doing to get an advantage, whereas this situation with Pascoe/Robbie seems to be trying to do right by a club legend with no advantage to onfield results.

Except the NRL believe that is not the case.

That is the difference we believe that it was an oversight, and the NRL believe it was a salary cap rorte.

 

[Lauren]

There is no way to give a fair comparison which has been my point all along.
Club A - Use underhanded methods by paying players 1,2,3,4 and 5 and be $500k-$1mil over the cap.
Club B - Offer player post-career job and don’t declare this role with the NRL.

FYI Parra only received a $1mil fine. And why wouldn’t include the cap reduction penalty when I’m talking overall financial penalties.

Why did you leave out their points penalties?

Well unless they moved us to 16th place for 2016, 2017 and 2018 I can’t really use us in comparison can I ?

So you leave it out completely and thus make your argument appear stronger than it is. That a terrible reason, here I'll make the comparison for you.

They were docked points and we weren't!

I leave it out because it doesn’t apply to our case.
Please do not argue with me because Eels or whoever we’re docked points and we weren’t. I’m sick of hearing you regurgitate their penalties when I honestly could care less about them.

I know your standpoint and you should already know mine, so let’s leave it at that.

 

[cochise]

The NRL has no idea cochise.

You should try out as a public defender for them.

No one would try harder I'm sure.

No I can look at this objectively and see what the Tigers did looks incredibly dodgy.

You have been given information on which you have based your opinions. You have relayed that information, and others have made their opinions. Don't presume to think you are being objective where others are not. It is all still just personal opinions.

I am concerned that we will never know what has happened. If the NRL keeps to their version that WT deliberately cheated, and WT keeps saying that no we did not, how will we ever know what really happened? I'd really like to know, one way or the other.

The NRL has stated that the Tigers have breached the Salary Cap rules. Offering a post career role and not declaring it looks dodgy. People would be up in arms if this was the Roosters.

 

[cochise]

The difference is simple: The other clubs punished seemed to know exactly what they were doing to get an advantage, whereas this situation with Pascoe/Robbie seems to be trying to do right by a club legend with no advantage to onfield results.

Except the NRL believe that is not the case.

That is the difference we believe that it was an oversight, and the NRL believe it was a salary cap rorte.

So in their mind the judgement is just for a salary cap rort.

 

[cochise]

Why did you leave out their points penalties?

Well unless they moved us to 16th place for 2016, 2017 and 2018 I can’t really use us in comparison can I ?

So you leave it out completely and thus make your argument appear stronger than it is. That a terrible reason, here I'll make the comparison for you.

They were docked points and we weren't!

I leave it out because it doesn’t apply to our case.
Please do not argue with me because Eels or whoever we’re docked points and we weren’t. I’m sick of hearing you regurgitate their penalties when I honestly could care less about them.

I know your standpoint and you should already know mine, so let’s leave it at that.

lol, but it applies in the comparison you keep trying to make, doesn't the fact they were penalised points make their punishment more severe?