Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[Lauren]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

 

[The_Patriot]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

 

[gallagher]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

I read it as Pascoe has involved the lawyers to fight for his registration. Im sure the club will have a press release soon.

 

[prattenparkchild]

Well, the ball is now with the NRL- lets see how they respond. I hope its not digging trenches and thinks about it a bit. I'd like to see what theyre proposing for Cronulla's issues at this stage too. Comparability will be interesting.

 

[gallagher]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

What better advertisement for Brydens if they help reduce the penalties and reinstate Pascoe. Can't buy that type of publicity.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

According to the Pom that’s exactly what will happen if NRL don’t relent.

 

[Danny Blanco]

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wests-tigers-submit-response-to-nrl-breach-notice/

We're admitting fault but fighting the punishment.

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

What better advertisement for Brydens if they help reduce the penalties and reinstate Pascoe. Can't buy that type of publicity.

Lee Hagipantelis has the opportunity to help out his
mate and 1 up Greenburg & Co. also - how good.

 

[gallagher]

That’s really fantastic news to see that Brydens are in our corner for this also.

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

According to the Pom that’s exactly what will happen if NRL don’t relent.

If we are admitting fault and only disputing the punishment then could a law of court rule on a sporting bodies punishment to its rules?

 

[Telltails]

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

According to the Pom that’s exactly what will happen if NRL don’t relent.

If we are admitting fault and only disputing the punishment then could a law of court rule on a sporting bodies punishment to its rules?

If they are deregistering a man preventing him from work opportunity under what he and the club consider to be inaccurate and unfair circumstances - I would think they can.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Thats the best news of the whole damn story. Brydens WOULD NOT get involved unless they thought the case was a simple one to prove. Even more so a simple one to prove in a court of law and to hold the NRL to account.

Just like Phil Gould and the Cleary thing they thought we would just fold and go away.

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

According to the Pom that’s exactly what will happen if NRL don’t relent.

If we are admitting fault and only disputing the punishment then could a law of court rule on a sporting bodies punishment to its rules?

Not sure what happens if it goes to court. I’m just relaying the post from the Pom who stated we believe our case is unbeatable and will go to court if need be. If that’s true I’m sure the legal minds behind our defense have thought through all scenarios.

 

[Eddie]

Hopefully this is the first step to getting Pascoe back ASAP.

The fact Farah has not even accepted the role and we have not received one single bit of competitive advantage -

I think it was a laughable penalty to dish out and glad the club are not meekly surrendering.

 

[gallagher]

If we are accepting fault but fighting the punishment then I don't think we're going to a law of court.

According to the Pom that’s exactly what will happen if NRL don’t relent.

If we are admitting fault and only disputing the punishment then could a law of court rule on a sporting bodies punishment to its rules?

If they are deregistering a man preventing him from work opportunity under what he and the club consider to be inaccurate and unfair circumstances - I would think they can.

Going by the article is sounds like there are 2 seperate submissions. The clubs' and Pascoe's, which he has enlisted lawyers. I can see Pascoe taking them to court but not the club over our sanctions.

 

[JD Tiger]

I don't think we could take the NRL to court for their claims that we broke the salary cap. That's the NRL enforcing their own rules, nothing to do with the legal system. I thought the premise of taking the NRL to court was to do with Pascoe, because they labelled him a cheat, a deliberate cheat, and have besmirched his reputation (or tried to). If the NRL doesn't have ironclad legal evidence to back up their labelling him as a cheat, then Pascoe (supported by WT) could then take them to court for slander (maybe even discrimination?).

Wasn't that the idea?

 

[gallagher]

I don't think we could take the NRL to court for their claims that we broke the salary cap. That's the NRL enforcing their own rules, nothing to do with the legal system. I thought the premise of taking the NRL to court was to do with Pascoe, because they labelled him a cheat, a deliberate cheat, and have besmirched his reputation (or tried to). If the NRL doesn't have ironclad legal evidence to back up their labelling him as a cheat, then Pascoe (supported by WT) could then take them to court for slander (maybe even discrimination?).

Wasn't that the idea?

I guess Pascoe's de-registration is a sanction on the person and not the club. That would explain the 2 separate submissions.

 

[cochise]

I don't think we could take the NRL to court for their claims that we broke the salary cap. That's the NRL enforcing their own rules, nothing to do with the legal system. I thought the premise of taking the NRL to court was to do with Pascoe, because they labelled him a cheat, a deliberate cheat, and have besmirched his reputation (or tried to). If the NRL doesn't have ironclad legal evidence to back up their labelling him as a cheat, then Pascoe (supported by WT) could then take them to court for slander (maybe even discrimination?).

Wasn't that the idea?

I guess Pascoe's de-registration is a sanction on the person and not the club. That would explain the 2 separate submissions.

That is correct, the club put in its submission for its sanctions and Pascoe for his.

 

[the_third]

The club has mounted what they believe is an unbeatable defence & have complete confidence we will get our CEO back !
But if the result don't work in our favour then legal action will follow.

Great news. No more pushovers here.

 

[Telltails]

I don't think we could take the NRL to court for their claims that we broke the salary cap. That's the NRL enforcing their own rules, nothing to do with the legal system. I thought the premise of taking the NRL to court was to do with Pascoe, because they labelled him a cheat, a deliberate cheat, and have besmirched his reputation (or tried to). If the NRL doesn't have ironclad legal evidence to back up their labelling him as a cheat, then Pascoe (supported by WT) could then take them to court for slander (maybe even discrimination?).

Wasn't that the idea?

I guess Pascoe's de-registration is a sanction on the person and not the club. That would explain the 2 separate submissions.

That is correct, the club put in its submission for its sanctions and Pascoe for his.

The severity of the fine is based on knowingly and deliberately cheating the cap. If that is found not to be the case, then the club has every right to question how the NRL can impose such a heavy fine, and should expect them to review the penalty, without the need to take it further to a court of law.

 

[JD Tiger]

Just saw this in the Daley thread - posted by Masterton - so can someone please clarify for me does this not suggest that our fine is $750k + 639k? That was what my initially understanding was, however I've seen some people on here say that or total fine is $750k yet $639k from that ($750k) needed to be specifically taken from cap.

_The club was also fined $750,000 while a **further** $639,000 – the amount of Farah's four-year post-football arrangement – is set to be removed from the Tigers' 2019 cap._

I am no authority, but my understanding was we have to pay a fine of $750k to the NRL, and in addition our salary cap is reduced by $639k as well. So we as a club are in a sense put out by $1,389,000

 

[Lauren]

Just saw this in the Daley thread - posted by Masterton - so can someone please clarify for me does this not suggest that our fine is $750k + 639k? That was what my initially understanding was, however I've seen some people on here say that or total fine is $750k yet $639k from that ($750k) needed to be specifically taken from cap.

_The club was also fined $750,000 while a **further** $639,000 – the amount of Farah's four-year post-football arrangement – is set to be removed from the Tigers' 2019 cap._

I am no authority, but my understanding was we have to pay a fine of $750k to the NRL, and in addition our salary cap is reduced by $639k as well. So we as a club are in a sense put out by $1,389,000

Thankyou. I thought it looks to be that, just from going by that paragraph.
I've seen various posts on here where they've said different, so I was unsure and honestly started to think that I'd initially misread the penalty.
News articles aren't very clear with the fine amounts either. I see both those figures used yet there's no great detail given.(The ones from 18 or 19 Dec)