Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[TYGA]

Pascoe has been targeted as he is the best Up and coming CEO and is viewed as a threat by Greenberg. Tarnish his reputation.
He’s the Tigers version of Staj the Matilda’s coach.

 

[gallagher]

Would it be safe to say if we win this case that Greenburg job would be in jeopardy

I wouldn't think so as the commission would have approved the sanctions.

And - do you also think that our board would have approved our CEO's decision - if so why have they singled out Pascoe?

His signature on Farahs contract I'd guess.

 

[cochise]

Would it be safe to say if we win this case that Greenburg job would be in jeopardy

I wouldn't think so as the commission would have approved the sanctions.

And - do you also think that our board would have approved our CEO's decision - if so why have they singled out Pascoe?

NRL said it was only Pascoe involved.

 

[cqtiger]

From what I've read we've put our hand up… Accepted guilt.
Our argument is flimsy bordering on limp celery stick

Someone must have informed the NRL of Farah’s actual ambassadorial contract. It was common knowledge that the Tigers offered Farah this role quite a while ago but what intrigued me with the sanctions was Greenburg saying that this contract was very hard for the NRL people to find. It was reportedly found off site. This was the smoking gun when I heard about it.

This was very sus.

 

[fibrodreaming]

From what I've read we've put our hand up… Accepted guilt.
Our argument is flimsy bordering on limp celery stick

Someone must have informed the NRL of Farah’s actual ambassadorial contract. It was common knowledge that the Tigers offered Farah this role quite a while ago but what intrigued me with the sanctions was Greenburg saying that this contract was very hard for the NRL people to find. It was reportedly found off site. **This was the smoking gun** when I heard about it.

This was very sus.

Apparently the contract has not been signed by Robbie. If so, it is not a current contract and was archived off-site.

I know I'm clutching at straws, but it is plausible.

 

[prattenparkchild]

I have long ago said in this thread, that if the contract was unsigned by both parties there is no reason the club would have had to keep it on site, if it was standard practice to store yearly records off site and this contract offer was included in the normal business records of that particular year there is no conspiracy, just a simple business practice. I was always suss of the NRL claiming kept 'off site' and yet WT remained steadfast they had done nothing wrong. IMHO a crucial, crunch point. This too will come out in the wash, one way or the other.

If innocent and we have been publicly damaged with false and malicious claims by NRL HQ before WT had been able to respond, we should go for the heads of Weeks and Greenburg with damages claim and seeking their own de-registration for a poor, rotten job, obviously seeking to tarnish another club to put in the same barrel to minimise Cronulla's blatant sinning, and publicly outing the club without offering them any attempt to answer before splashing everything in the news.

IF things are as I suspect / hope, WT should accept no prisoners from the Laurel and Hardy pairing running this show. Kick them out, just as they are going to do to Pascoe.

 

[rex2ce]

From what I've read we've put our hand up… Accepted guilt.
Our argument is flimsy bordering on limp celery stick

Someone must have informed the NRL of Farah’s actual ambassadorial contract. It was common knowledge that the Tigers offered Farah this role quite a while ago but what intrigued me with the sanctions was Greenburg saying that this contract was very hard for the NRL people to find. It was reportedly found off site. This was the smoking gun when I heard about it.

This was very sus.

About the contract, there was a story around that there was only one copy of this contract in existence, this being the one that Farah had not yet signed, so I assume that it was in Ayoubs office, so definitely offsite, but no biggy.
I reckon DNA testing would reveal a panther paw print on said contract

 

[gallagher]

I have long ago said in this thread, that if the contract was unsigned by both parties there is no reason the club would have had to keep it on site, if it was standard practice to store yearly records off site and this contract offer was included in the normal business records of that particular year there is no conspiracy, just a simple business practice. I was always suss of the NRL claiming kept 'off site' and yet WT remained steadfast they had done nothing wrong. IMHO a crucial, crunch point. This too will come out in the wash, one way or the other.

If innocent and we have been publicly damaged with false and malicious claims by NRL HQ before WT had been able to respond, we should go for the heads of Weeks and Greenburg with damages claim and seeking their own de-registration for a poor, rotten job, obviously seeking to tarnish another club to put in the same barrel to minimise Cronulla's blatant sinning, and publicly outing the club without offering them any attempt to answer before splashing everything in the news.

IF things are as I suspect / hope, WT should accept no prisoners from the Laurel and Hardy pairing running this show. Kick them out, just as they are going to do to Pascoe.

The thing that has worried me is when the NRL asked us about the contract they were first told that it was lost, before finding it. Also the text from Pascoe to Ayoub instructing him not to send or reveal the contact to the NRL.

That just stinks of a cover up, but as you said all will come out in the wash.
Hopefully a downgrade in the penalties is coming.

 

[prattenparkchild]

I agree Gallagher there is more information out there, it just has to be put in a coherent form with everything else in a time sequence and placed into public view. If we are guilty of deception and cover up we deserve to be kicked as stands, if innocent the kick should also go the other way.

The text on face value is not good, but what was its context? DOnt disclose to NRL ever? or not until signed by Farah and a valid contract to show the NRL?

 

[gallagher]

I agree Gallagher there is more information out there, it just has to be put in a coherent form with everything else in a time sequence and placed into public view. If we are guilty of deception and cover up we deserve to be kicked as stands, if innocent the kick should also go the other way.

The text on face value is not good, but what was its context? DOnt disclose to NRL ever? or not until signed by Farah and a valid contract to show the NRL?

Yeah, all good questions. Hopefully the answers aren't embarrassing.

 

[Lauren]

I have long ago said in this thread, that if the contract was unsigned by both parties there is no reason the club would have had to keep it on site, if it was standard practice to store yearly records off site and this contract offer was included in the normal business records of that particular year there is no conspiracy, just a simple business practice. I was always suss of the NRL claiming kept 'off site' and yet WT remained steadfast they had done nothing wrong. IMHO a crucial, crunch point. This too will come out in the wash, one way or the other.

If innocent and we have been publicly damaged with false and malicious claims by NRL HQ before WT had been able to respond, we should go for the heads of Weeks and Greenburg with damages claim and seeking their own de-registration for a poor, rotten job, obviously seeking to tarnish another club to put in the same barrel to minimise Cronulla's blatant sinning, and publicly outing the club without offering them any attempt to answer before splashing everything in the news.

IF things are as I suspect / hope, WT should accept no prisoners from the Laurel and Hardy pairing running this show. Kick them out, just as they are going to do to Pascoe.

**The thing that has worried me is when the NRL asked us about the contract they were first told that it was lost, before finding it. Also the text from Pascoe to Ayoub instructing him not to send or reveal the contact to the NRL.**
That just stinks of a cover up, but as you said all will come out in the wash.
Hopefully a downgrade in the penalties is coming.

Where is this? Could you please share the article's URL address? Think in the midst of all this - being most concerned with our penalty - I've completely missed this.
Thanks

 

[gallagher]

I have long ago said in this thread, that if the contract was unsigned by both parties there is no reason the club would have had to keep it on site, if it was standard practice to store yearly records off site and this contract offer was included in the normal business records of that particular year there is no conspiracy, just a simple business practice. I was always suss of the NRL claiming kept 'off site' and yet WT remained steadfast they had done nothing wrong. IMHO a crucial, crunch point. This too will come out in the wash, one way or the other.

If innocent and we have been publicly damaged with false and malicious claims by NRL HQ before WT had been able to respond, we should go for the heads of Weeks and Greenburg with damages claim and seeking their own de-registration for a poor, rotten job, obviously seeking to tarnish another club to put in the same barrel to minimise Cronulla's blatant sinning, and publicly outing the club without offering them any attempt to answer before splashing everything in the news.

IF things are as I suspect / hope, WT should accept no prisoners from the Laurel and Hardy pairing running this show. Kick them out, just as they are going to do to Pascoe.

**The thing that has worried me is when the NRL asked us about the contract they were first told that it was lost, before finding it. Also the text from Pascoe to Ayoub instructing him not to send or reveal the contact to the NRL.**
That just stinks of a cover up, but as you said all will come out in the wash.
Hopefully a downgrade in the penalties is coming.

Where is this? Could you please share the article's URL address? Think in the midst of all this - being most concerned with our penalty - I've completely missed this.
Thanks

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/12/19/wests-tigers-not-disclosing-farahs-post-career-role-gets-club-ceo-in-trouble/

The lost contract is in this article Lauren. The text from Pascoe to Ayoub Im having trouble finding.

 

[Lauren]

I have long ago said in this thread, that if the contract was unsigned by both parties there is no reason the club would have had to keep it on site, if it was standard practice to store yearly records off site and this contract offer was included in the normal business records of that particular year there is no conspiracy, just a simple business practice. I was always suss of the NRL claiming kept 'off site' and yet WT remained steadfast they had done nothing wrong. IMHO a crucial, crunch point. This too will come out in the wash, one way or the other.

If innocent and we have been publicly damaged with false and malicious claims by NRL HQ before WT had been able to respond, we should go for the heads of Weeks and Greenburg with damages claim and seeking their own de-registration for a poor, rotten job, obviously seeking to tarnish another club to put in the same barrel to minimise Cronulla's blatant sinning, and publicly outing the club without offering them any attempt to answer before splashing everything in the news.

IF things are as I suspect / hope, WT should accept no prisoners from the Laurel and Hardy pairing running this show. Kick them out, just as they are going to do to Pascoe.

**The thing that has worried me is when the NRL asked us about the contract they were first told that it was lost, before finding it. Also the text from Pascoe to Ayoub instructing him not to send or reveal the contact to the NRL.**
That just stinks of a cover up, but as you said all will come out in the wash.
Hopefully a downgrade in the penalties is coming.

Where is this? Could you please share the article's URL address? Think in the midst of all this - being most concerned with our penalty - I've completely missed this.
Thanks

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/12/19/wests-tigers-not-disclosing-farahs-post-career-role-gets-club-ceo-in-trouble/

The lost contract is in this article Lauren. The text from Pascoe to Ayoub Im having trouble finding.

Thank you gallagher.

 

[jadtiger]

I would doubt if the text would exist it seems like the sort of "rumour" that someone would manufacture to give credibility to the allegation Pascoe was doing the wrong thing.Reading claims on the internet does not make them true.
Not having a shot at you Gallagher but it sounds far to dumb and incriminating to be true.

 

[diedpretty]

So that story was also put out by NRL journalist. They had the propaganda machine working overtime when this broke.

 

[diedpretty]

That story was written by Margie McDonald an NRL hack who also put out this story. https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/08/12/ivan-cleary-doesnt-need-to-rush-to-reunite-with-nathan/. She really ballsed up that one.

 

[Lauren]

OK I've just read it and I do vaguely remember discussions about it on the forum. Think Ayoub got a lot of attention due to it.

There's a common theme with these articles, they appear to be more speculative. They're very poorly constructed and seem vague with the facts and details - they never really seem to clarify much.
Yeah it looks a little bad. But given this is all based on the events from 2015 & 2016 and possibly our worst state of affairs, I still 100% believe that JP has only ever acted with WT best interests at heart.

I still say there is no way this is as deceptive as other cases of cap breaches. At worst it's a man going into overdrive - with good intentions to protect a club (and its team/players and fans).

 

[gallagher]

I would doubt if the text would exist it seems like the sort of "rumour" that someone would manufacture to give credibility to the allegation Pascoe was doing the wrong thing.Reading claims on the internet does not make them true.
Not having a shot at you Gallagher but it sounds far to dumb and incriminating to be true.

It was in a media article. I know that doesn't make it true but I'm not just repeating something a random person said on facebook.

 

[colmcd]

From what I've read we've put our hand up… Accepted guilt.
Our argument is flimsy bordering on limp celery stick

Someone must have informed the NRL of Farah’s actual ambassadorial contract. It was common knowledge that the Tigers offered Farah this role quite a while ago but what intrigued me with the sanctions was Greenburg saying that this contract was very hard for the NRL people to find. It was reportedly found off site. This was the smoking gun when I heard about it.

This was very sus.

About the contract, there was a story around that there was only one copy of this contract in existence, this being the one that Farah had not yet signed, so I assume that it was in Ayoubs office, so definitely offsite, but no biggy.
I reckon DNA testing would reveal a panther paw print on said contract

ah NOPE.
By Panther you are probably referring to Cleary.
This all happened long before Cleary. Wouldn't be in his memory, he wouldn't have been at the signing or would he have a copy. But most of all, Cleary is on a massive deal with Penrith! Multi million dollar deal, I believe 5 million for 5 years.
Why would he jeopardise this?

Jason Taylor, Sam Ayoub, Mitchell Moses, Issac Moses, etc. All have reason to hate the Wests Tigers.
None of this seems like Cleary, unless Cleary thought we were going to raid Penrith and other then Oliver Clarke no one has come in that direction and no one really looks to be coming from there. It's not Cleary.

 

[rex2ce]

I was thinking Gus