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He has stopped in space on several occasions, on other occasions he kicks the ball. He looks very low on confidence following his injury.
His hit ups are incredibly ineffective.
Makes one almost every attacking set.
Stopped in his tracks every time, no post contact metres.

It's noticeable.

He's one of the weakest wingers in the game in this regard. We don't play to his strengths either.

He'd probably be better used playing outside Olam.
 
His hit ups are incredibly ineffective.
Makes one almost every attacking set.
Stopped in his tracks every time, no post contact metres.

It's noticeable.

He's one of the weakest wingers in the game in this regard. We don't play to his strengths either.

He'd probably be better used playing outside Olam.
Was marginally better last weekend but he needs to pack on some kilos. Not adding much value in firsts.
 
I've seen Sukkar play several times and ervy single time he just looks like a very average plodder. Slow, no skill, no power or aggression. He's a cheap imitation of Twal and there's no room for players like that in the NRL today. I'd expect to see him moved on asap, he just doesn't have any of the attributes required to make the step up.
Wow, that’s a big statement……your pretty consistent with your dislike for Sukkar. Only time will tell I suppose.
 
Wow, that’s a big statement……your pretty consistent with your dislike for Sukkar. Only time will tell I suppose.

Wow, that’s a big statement……your pretty consistent with your dislike for Sukkar. Only time will tell I suppose.
I rate Sukkar but I also rate Seyfarth and have done since SG Ball. Seyfarth was always going to be an NRL player. Nicholas and Clarke are two other younger forwards I hold in high regard. They will all take time to mature.
 
I rate Sukkar but I also rate Seyfarth and have done since SG Ball. Seyfarth was always going to be an NRL player. Nicholas and Clarke are two other younger forwards I hold in high regard. They will all take time to mature.
I've liked what Nicholas has been bringing off the bench in Cup the past few weeks.
 
People are understandable impatient but it's not wise to write off a 20 year old forward just because he's not killing it at cup level yet the games filled with guys that took a little longer to find their feet against men.

That being said he probably shouldn't be on a top 30 contract
 
People are understandable impatient but it's not wise to write off a 20 year old forward just because he's not killing it at cup level yet the games filled with guys that took a little longer to find their feet against men.

That being said he probably shouldn't be on a top 30 contract
You can't write someone off forever, but yeah when we have limited spaces in our NRL squad we have to make some educated guesses as to whom we think is best positioned to kick on. Hopefully we get more right than not, but we'll never get it right 100% of the time..

And for the record @Tiger in boots 🐅 I don't hate Sukkar, but he should be on a train and trial deal in my view, the fact he's on an NRL deal next season makes him expendable when I view other Young forwards with more upside, but if he were only on a lesser deal he'd get more time to develop and price himself. Sometimes getting the NRL deal too early, before you're ready to contribute, can be a negative for a youngster if you get written off too early.
Broederlow, Nicolas and Clarke are ahead of him (and Tumeth) in my eyes
 
I rate Sukkar but I also rate Seyfarth and have done since SG Ball. Seyfarth was always going to be an NRL player. Nicholas and Clarke are two other younger forwards I hold in high regard. They will all take time to mature.
Yeah, Seyfarth definitely in the team. If he continues like last week and keeps lifting and removes the errors from his game he will be good for us….Big Red always has a go!!
 
You can't write someone off forever, but yeah when we have limited spaces in our NRL squad we have to make some educated guesses as to whom we think is best positioned to kick on. Hopefully we get more right than not, but we'll never get it right 100% of the time..

And for the record @Tiger in boots 🐅 I don't hate Sukkar, but he should be on a train and trial deal in my view, the fact he's on an NRL deal next season makes him expendable when I view other Young forwards with more upside, but if he were only on a lesser deal he'd get more time to develop and price himself. Sometimes getting the NRL deal too early, before you're ready to contribute, can be a negative for a youngster if you get written off too early.
Broederlow, Nicolas and Clarke are ahead of him (and Tumeth) in my eyes
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, no issue with that at all. For the record though, I chose my words carefully and said dislike not hate!

The fact of the matter is, he keeps getting picked to back up each week so he must be doing something right on game day and training otherwise he would be shown the door like others before him. Would not surprise me if he gets a debut soon. Asking around the grounds the word is he has been doing really well at training and is a good fit with the team….so I guess only time will tell.

What I would like to know is why Tumeth is not getting a go! His Top 30 I thought and should have more game time, at least in Cup. Why they off him.
 
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, no issue with that at all. For the record though, I chose my words carefully and said dislike not hate!

The fact of the matter is, he keeps getting picked to back up each week so he must be doing something right on game day and training otherwise he would be shown the door like others before him. Would not surprise me if he gets a debut soon. Asking around the grounds the word is he has been doing really well at training and is a good fit with the team….so I guess only time will tell.

What I would like to know is why Tumeth is not getting a go! His Top 30 I thought and should have more game time, at least in Cup. Why they off him.
Is Tumeth even playing Massey Cup for the Hawks?
 
Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, no issue with that at all. For the record though, I chose my words carefully and said dislike not hate!

The fact of the matter is, he keeps getting picked to back up each week so he must be doing something right on game day and training otherwise he would be shown the door like others before him. Would not surprise me if he gets a debut soon. Asking around the grounds the word is he has been doing really well at training and is a good fit with the team….so I guess only time will tell.

What I would like to know is why Tumeth is not getting a go! His Top 30 I thought and should have more game time, at least in Cup. Why they off him.
Performance. When Tumeth's been given an opportunity he hasn't taken it. He's the sort of player that will take time but i can see him being a nrl bench player in his mid 20s. Thing is for now his body isn't up to the grind. So where does he play in the meantime? He has looked ok in flegg, he runs smart lines and physically that's this current level. Maybe ron massey between flegg and cup is his current spot, but for a top 30 player to be in RM is a bit underwhelming for all involved.

And it's a hard one with good trainers, you want to reward those who work hark, but if on matchday they don't deliver then promoting someone who doesn't work as hard but delivers more is still necessary. Matches aren't won on the training field. I could see Sukkar playing some first grade in several years time, but for now, he's not up to it yet. He needs to be standing out and performing well every week in Cup to get that next shot. Sukkar's play the ball speed was by far the slowest in the team last weekend, half a second slower than the next closest player. His tackling efficiency was also the lowest out of all our forwards. To me he just plods and others have overtaken him.
 
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I don't understand why we're playing AD at halfback when we have 10 other halves at the club, all probably better than he is there. I don't care what he wants, we need to be getting him ready to play in the centres/lock.
 
I don't understand why we're playing AD at halfback when we have 10 other halves at the club, all probably better than he is there. I don't care what he wants, we need to be getting him ready to play in the centres/lock.
We don't. Noah Ryan who is a Massey cup player is the only other fit option
 
Noah Ryan is woeful too.

Thoughts on Bailey Hodges best position?
From what I've seen hooker/lock utility but could play in the halves at a pinch. Good service out of dummyhalf & good at running from dummy half. Also seen him produce some good defensive efforts on his tryline.

A bit more meat on his bones and could make a great utility.
 
From what I've seen hooker/lock utility but could play in the halves at a pinch. Good service out of dummyhalf & good at running from dummy half. Also seen him produce some good defensive efforts on his tryline.

A bit more meat on his bones and could make a great utility.
Cheers bra.
Good assessment.

He definitely has some swagger to his game.
 

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