Paul Green

[Guest]

would rather Green than flanno

Rather gangrene than flanno.

rather Madge over both

Yep

I'm struggling to understand why people are so off a successful coach like Flanno.
Let's presume he was guilty.
Who hasn't done something in their past that they're ashamed of?
It doesn't define you. You are who you are now. You can choose to do only good things now.
Everyone deserves that chance, even Flanno.
(I'm not talking about recidivists)

No I haven't put the lives of young people I had in my care at risk, have you?

If you forgive others for their past indiscretions you are more likely to forgive yourself for your own and live a happier life.
That applies to you, me and everyone reading it.
Living happier is a choice that starts now.

Sorry, I am not willing to risk the health and lives of young people to increase our chances of winning a football game.

Or are you just unwilling to forgive yourself and embrace happiness?
Only you know

That is correct, only I know. I don't see Flanagan effecting my happiness.

Flanno brings Kyle...

Could u cop that if he also brings Xerri?
All the boys.

Downvote for you 😛

Xerri was at one point, the next best thing for outside backs.


He was. He was *exceptionally* fast and strong, almost *unbelievably* fast and strong, perhaps *incredibly* fast and strong, some would say *unnaturally* fast and strong.

Young and dumb doesn't require a lifetime in purgatory.

 

[Swordy]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

 

[Guest]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

You can bet that wasn't one of his special untouchable players like Luciano, Mbye or Tamou.

 

[Tiger5150]

would rather Green than flanno

Rather gangrene than flanno.

rather Madge over both

Yep

I'm struggling to understand why people are so off a successful coach like Flanno.
Let's presume he was guilty.
Who hasn't done something in their past that they're ashamed of?
It doesn't define you. You are who you are now. You can choose to do only good things now.
Everyone deserves that chance, even Flanno.
(I'm not talking about recidivists)

No I haven't put the lives of young people I had in my care at risk, have you?

If you forgive others for their past indiscretions you are more likely to forgive yourself for your own and live a happier life.
That applies to you, me and everyone reading it.
Living happier is a choice that starts now.

Sorry, I am not willing to risk the health and lives of young people to increase our chances of winning a football game.

Or are you just unwilling to forgive yourself and embrace happiness?
Only you know

That is correct, only I know. I don't see Flanagan effecting my happiness.

Flanno brings Kyle...

Could u cop that if he also brings Xerri?
All the boys.

Downvote for you 😛

Xerri was at one point, the next best thing for outside backs.


He was. He was *exceptionally* fast and strong, almost *unbelievably* fast and strong, perhaps *incredibly* fast and strong, some would say *unnaturally* fast and strong.

Young and dumb doesn't require a lifetime in purgatory.

Would he return *as* fast and strong as before?

 

[Enmoretiger 0]

I have a lot of respect for Green with the way Cowboys played their 2017season.

People say identity this and that, but in that season, they played their 1st minute and their 80th minute exactly the same.

I have no idea if he would be suitable for us, but I would still prefer that we try for Bennett (if he wants to come here) and then Green would be my second choice.

If you think we are under achievers, what does that make the Cowboys with their previous and current playing group?
Shane Flanagan, has some connection to Fox because they never stop pushing his name, Flanagan is done and can not come back from what he did at the sharks
This has been without doubt a bad year and the game against the dogs was woeful, but I still believe changing coaches is just chasing our tail again, unless Madge has lost the players that matter, AD, Brooks, Steff etc, the rest if not can go.
This will be brought out in the review, I trust our CEO
I have mates in the legal game, & he is very well regarded.

 

[TigerWest]

would rather Green than flanno

Rather gangrene than flanno.

rather Madge over both

Yep

I'm struggling to understand why people are so off a successful coach like Flanno.
Let's presume he was guilty.
Who hasn't done something in their past that they're ashamed of?
It doesn't define you. You are who you are now. You can choose to do only good things now.
Everyone deserves that chance, even Flanno.
(I'm not talking about recidivists)

No I haven't put the lives of young people I had in my care at risk, have you?

If you forgive others for their past indiscretions you are more likely to forgive yourself for your own and live a happier life.
That applies to you, me and everyone reading it.
Living happier is a choice that starts now.

Sorry, I am not willing to risk the health and lives of young people to increase our chances of winning a football game.

Or are you just unwilling to forgive yourself and embrace happiness?
Only you know

That is correct, only I know. I don't see Flanagan effecting my happiness.

Flanno brings Kyle...

Could u cop that if he also brings Xerri?
All the boys.

Downvote for you 😛

Xerri was at one point, the next best thing for outside backs.

Kyle though... Jesus.
Some think Brooks is bad.

?

Not up to date with Sharks, is Xerri back next year?

 

[WT2K]

would rather Green than flanno

Rather gangrene than flanno.

rather Madge over both

Yep

I'm struggling to understand why people are so off a successful coach like Flanno.
Let's presume he was guilty.
Who hasn't done something in their past that they're ashamed of?
It doesn't define you. You are who you are now. You can choose to do only good things now.
Everyone deserves that chance, even Flanno.
(I'm not talking about recidivists)

No I haven't put the lives of young people I had in my care at risk, have you?

If you forgive others for their past indiscretions you are more likely to forgive yourself for your own and live a happier life.
That applies to you, me and everyone reading it.
Living happier is a choice that starts now.

Sorry, I am not willing to risk the health and lives of young people to increase our chances of winning a football game.

Or are you just unwilling to forgive yourself and embrace happiness?
Only you know

That is correct, only I know. I don't see Flanagan effecting my happiness.

Flanno brings Kyle...

Could u cop that if he also brings Xerri?
All the boys.

Downvote for you 😛

Xerri was at one point, the next best thing for outside backs.

Kyle though... Jesus.
Some think Brooks is bad.

?

Not up to date with Sharks, is Xerri back next year?

Suspended until November 2023

 

[KingRobbie]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

 

[Swordy]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

Interesting.

I would have thought medical advice would have been given and it would not be any coaches decision in the NRL to override that advice. There would be plenty of evidence to support the claim if it were true. I'm extremely surprised such circumstances have not been leaked already, given that the place leaks like a sieve anyway and everytime someone scratches their nuts its back page news.

 

[Magpieger]

Preferably, i'd stick with Madge. Just wish he was more ruthless in his team selections... talks tough in a post-presser but picks the same old a few days later.
Flanno's an ex-Maggie and yes, he was a hard-head with a habit of toeing the line, but its that starch... that toughness, ruggedness... that arrogance that you're better than your opponent and with an ingrained desire not to let him get the better of you that we need to instill in the playing group. Blocker's spoken about that mindset before... Never lie down, never give up, just tuck the chin in and keep on swinging.
Flanno's Sharks were littered with rough gentlemen that had a desire to win, however ugly. Thats what he built his team on.
That should be a legacy of the Tigers and Magpies DNA that binds us to our heritage.
Flanno seems to have a connection with this character type, and knows how to deal with it, unlike Madge.
As for Flanno's past indescretions... how much grubbery has Melb introduced to the game and yet Bellyache is lauded as the games greatest ever coach?... Its laughable!
I've said before that I'm proud we've never been associated with grubbery, but what if we change the wording to "Shrewd"?... Both on and off the field... Well, shit!... we're DAMN smart operators!...
Hell, if the Storm and Roosters can do it, why cant we?
I'm sick of being crapped on.
Ruthlessness is the way to go.
Glamour Club?... Pretentious bullcrap!
Fake it 'til you make it?... Well thats worked well for 10 seasons...
We are who we are and there's no side-stepping it... we were built on a tough, uncomprimising, under-dog mentality.
Many of us remember this from both sides before the merger... pity the power-brokers don't.

So you see salary cap cheating and injecting players with unknown substances, which turn out to be banned substances, as the same level of actions?

Don't forget the Storms Centre of Ju-Jitsu Excellence and all they've given to this great game.
In a black and white world, wrong is wrong, regardless of the difference of degree.
Either you're breaking the rules, or following the rules... or simply pushing the boundaries and dancing in the grey areas, which isn't a new concept by any stretch of the imagination.

So to you someone shoplifting should be viewed the same as someone that murder another person?

No, but in both cases its still the wrong thing. Unless you're that Russian guy that took out his mate.

 

[cochise]

Preferably, i'd stick with Madge. Just wish he was more ruthless in his team selections... talks tough in a post-presser but picks the same old a few days later.
Flanno's an ex-Maggie and yes, he was a hard-head with a habit of toeing the line, but its that starch... that toughness, ruggedness... that arrogance that you're better than your opponent and with an ingrained desire not to let him get the better of you that we need to instill in the playing group. Blocker's spoken about that mindset before... Never lie down, never give up, just tuck the chin in and keep on swinging.
Flanno's Sharks were littered with rough gentlemen that had a desire to win, however ugly. Thats what he built his team on.
That should be a legacy of the Tigers and Magpies DNA that binds us to our heritage.
Flanno seems to have a connection with this character type, and knows how to deal with it, unlike Madge.
As for Flanno's past indescretions... how much grubbery has Melb introduced to the game and yet Bellyache is lauded as the games greatest ever coach?... Its laughable!
I've said before that I'm proud we've never been associated with grubbery, but what if we change the wording to "Shrewd"?... Both on and off the field... Well, shit!... we're DAMN smart operators!...
Hell, if the Storm and Roosters can do it, why cant we?
I'm sick of being crapped on.
Ruthlessness is the way to go.
Glamour Club?... Pretentious bullcrap!
Fake it 'til you make it?... Well thats worked well for 10 seasons...
We are who we are and there's no side-stepping it... we were built on a tough, uncomprimising, under-dog mentality.
Many of us remember this from both sides before the merger... pity the power-brokers don't.

So you see salary cap cheating and injecting players with unknown substances, which turn out to be banned substances, as the same level of actions?

Don't forget the Storms Centre of Ju-Jitsu Excellence and all they've given to this great game.
In a black and white world, wrong is wrong, regardless of the difference of degree.
Either you're breaking the rules, or following the rules... or simply pushing the boundaries and dancing in the grey areas, which isn't a new concept by any stretch of the imagination.

So to you someone shoplifting should be viewed the same as someone that murder another person?

No, but in both cases its still the wrong thing. Unless you're that Russian guy that took out his mate.

Yes both still wrong, but the consequences are different.

 

[Spartan117]

Absolute No from Me on Green

 

[TigerNeddyK]

Absolute No from Me on Green

Same here ,,, he did wonders for QLD this year, had heaps and heaps of drama at cowboys and when he did have successs had 4bplayers callevThurston, Morgan , Tamaulolo and Scott absolutely firing…. Guy cannot coach IMO aand apparntly parties with the players and makes them uncomfortable

 

[BAGNF05]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

Probably tested his hydration and deemed him fit to play. Are these blokes athletes or just copping seven figure salaries to have a sook?

 

[KingRobbie]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

I think it will be more interesting if anyone thinks you're not just making stuff up. I think you are the primary and secondary source of your own imagination.

Believe whatever you want champ, just be prepared you’re gonna look absolutely foolish if it ever eventually comes out in the media.

Why the hell would I need, or want to make something like that up.

It’s the truth, like it or not.

 

[Swordy]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

I think it will be more interesting if anyone thinks you're not just making stuff up. I think you are the primary and secondary source of your own imagination.

Believe whatever you want champ, just be prepared you’re gonna look absolutely foolish if it ever eventually comes out in the media.

Why the hell would I need, or want to make something like that up.

It’s the truth, like it or not.

I think to be fair KingRobbie, people can say anything they want without repercussions on an anonymous forum. Not suggesting you are of course.

I could make a claim that I know someone who spoke to a 'player' and he said he was scared to play Melbourne and he had the look of fear on him during the game. It means nothing without names/quotes/evidence.

And when you suggest a serious breach of protocal, rules, and possibly law, ...and then do so without much to go on, then that smells a bit.

If it was true, and there was a genuine - underline genuine - concern by the player, I have absolutely no doubt the NRL and media would well and truly know about it by now.

 

[KingRobbie]

I must be in the ultra ultra minority because I'd be happy with Flanno.
He still denies he knew about the peptides but let's just assume he did. He's paid his penalty, he's a bloody good coach and his players all supported him.
Don't we give people a second chance?

Morals aside, he's the best coach available. He's better than Madge.

It is more than morals mate, it is about the safety of players.

I know you want him gone too but imo Madge is 10x more of a threat to player safety than Flanagan.

I do subscribe to the theory that he knew about the drug program but do you really think there is any chance at all he would start it again here when every single person/player in rugby league knows about what happened? I agree player safety is a huge factor but I just struggle to think of any scenario at all where he’d even contemplate doing anything along those lines again.

Honest question.

Sorry but that's just laughable to suggest that. 🙂

If you knew the stuff I know it’s really not.

I understand the point about Flanagan though.

Ok, well lets hear what you know. The implication is that our current coach is a serious threat to player safety. I await your next post to back that up with facts.

One situation this season resulted in a player being forced to play after being hospitalised on a drip for 6 days in the days prior.

The player felt if he didn’t play, his spot in the side was at risk.

There’s plenty more.

Not saying you're wrong, but I'd like a bit more factual info on that one instance. Got any more?

Regarding that particular instance, I was simply told the above by another player and the fact that the aforementioned player was forced into playing by Maguire.

Lined up with a few other instances I'd heard of Maguire's methods from secondary sources.

Will be interested to see if the full situation becomes public knowledge after Maguire leaves.

I think it will be more interesting if anyone thinks you're not just making stuff up. I think you are the primary and secondary source of your own imagination.

Believe whatever you want champ, just be prepared you’re gonna look absolutely foolish if it ever eventually comes out in the media.

Why the hell would I need, or want to make something like that up.

It’s the truth, like it or not.

I think to be fair KingRobbie, people can say anything they want without repercussions on an anonymous forum. Not suggesting you are of course.

I could make a claim that I know someone who spoke to a 'player' and he said he was scared to play Melbourne and he had the look of fear on him during the game. It means nothing without names/quotes/evidence.

And when you suggest a serious breach of protocal, rules, and possibly law, ...and then do so without much to go on, then that smells a bit.

If it was true, and there was a genuine - underline genuine - concern by the player, I have absolutely no doubt the NRL and media would well and truly know about it by now.

Yes, understand what you mean in terms of having to take everything with a grain of salt on these platforms, that’s fine if they think I’m making it up etc.

Maybe the NRL do know at this point, if the player has reported it, I’m not privy to that. Hopefully they have.

 

[Magpieger]

Preferably, i'd stick with Madge. Just wish he was more ruthless in his team selections... talks tough in a post-presser but picks the same old a few days later.
Flanno's an ex-Maggie and yes, he was a hard-head with a habit of toeing the line, but its that starch... that toughness, ruggedness... that arrogance that you're better than your opponent and with an ingrained desire not to let him get the better of you that we need to instill in the playing group. Blocker's spoken about that mindset before... Never lie down, never give up, just tuck the chin in and keep on swinging.
Flanno's Sharks were littered with rough gentlemen that had a desire to win, however ugly. Thats what he built his team on.
That should be a legacy of the Tigers and Magpies DNA that binds us to our heritage.
Flanno seems to have a connection with this character type, and knows how to deal with it, unlike Madge.
As for Flanno's past indescretions... how much grubbery has Melb introduced to the game and yet Bellyache is lauded as the games greatest ever coach?... Its laughable!
I've said before that I'm proud we've never been associated with grubbery, but what if we change the wording to "Shrewd"?... Both on and off the field... Well, shit!... we're DAMN smart operators!...
Hell, if the Storm and Roosters can do it, why cant we?
I'm sick of being crapped on.
Ruthlessness is the way to go.
Glamour Club?... Pretentious bullcrap!
Fake it 'til you make it?... Well thats worked well for 10 seasons...
We are who we are and there's no side-stepping it... we were built on a tough, uncomprimising, under-dog mentality.
Many of us remember this from both sides before the merger... pity the power-brokers don't.

So you see salary cap cheating and injecting players with unknown substances, which turn out to be banned substances, as the same level of actions?

Don't forget the Storms Centre of Ju-Jitsu Excellence and all they've given to this great game.
In a black and white world, wrong is wrong, regardless of the difference of degree.
Either you're breaking the rules, or following the rules... or simply pushing the boundaries and dancing in the grey areas, which isn't a new concept by any stretch of the imagination.

So to you someone shoplifting should be viewed the same as someone that murder another person?

No, but in both cases its still the wrong thing. Unless you're that Russian guy that took out his mate.

Yes both still wrong, but the consequences are different.

Sorry for the late reply, its probs a little bit stale now, but you're right, different consequences. People deserve to pay pennance for doing the wrong thing. To what degree, is beyond my realm if expertise, other than that of life experience and a sound moral compass. Wrongdoers need to *earn* the right to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with decent people and have further to climb from the mire. So long as they learn from their mistakes and be better humans than they were, they should be given a 2nd chance.
End of the day, I've still got faith in Madge.
No to Paul Green.
Whether or not we got Flanno, meh.
But if we did, my original post points out what I think he'd bring.

 

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I have a lot of respect for Green with the way Cowboys played their 2017season.

People say identity this and that, but in that season, they played their 1st minute and their 80th minute exactly the same.

I have no idea if he would be suitable for us, but I would still prefer that we try for Bennett (if he wants to come here) and then Green would be my second choice.

If you think we are under achievers, what does that make the Cowboys with their previous and current playing group?
Shane Flanagan, has some connection to Fox because they never stop pushing his name, Flanagan is done and can not come back from what he did at the sharks
This has been without doubt a bad year and the game against the dogs was woeful, but I still believe changing coaches is just chasing our tail again, unless Madge has lost the players that matter, AD, Brooks, Steff etc, the rest if not can go.
This will be brought out in the review, I trust our CEO
I have mates in the legal game, & he is very well regarded.

I think the change of coaches is going to happen no matter what. I truly think Madge is a great coach but with the players we have now, he cannot coach them. Either the change will happen now or this time next year when we are in the bottom 4 again. The only difference will be that Madge would have gone on a hiring spree and the new coach will have "Madge's roster"to work with.

There is no dount we will be in bottom 4 again.. so that's 4 years and Madge's overall win % of possibly less than 30%.. he is not going to finish his 2 year contract here, I can promise you that.

I like how Cronulla has gone about it. John Morris didn't deserve to be sacked but they saw an opportunity to poach Fitzgibbon and make him build his squad.

As for Green, he did underachieve but a lot of those years that he did, Scott, Morgan and Thurston were out injured most of the times. Personally, I just like his demeanour, his calmness, he seems to have a lot of values and seems to know how to coach coaches. He also doesn't seem to have an ego. He seems like Ivan Cleary to be, but hopefully with a better moral compass.

I also understand that his last 2-3 years with Cowboys and QLD were way below average.. and that will be a big factor in whether he's appointed or not.