Paul Kent - 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'

@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

hes not responsible for anything, he is truly untouchable and none of the clubs results from this year or the two years prior have anything to do with him, didnt you know?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

Getting your blood pressure up apparently?

Not saying he is without sin, but the players are not putting in and imo that’s on them.

Did you find the article?
 
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395917) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

Getting your blood pressure up apparently?

Not saying he is without sin, but the players are not putting in and imo that’s on them.

Did you find the article?

Haha, that's true - he's very good at that. No I didn't yet but i'll have a look for it.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

The whole joints a mess mate. I don't think you can even point the finger at one particular thing or person. Madge is definitely to blame, so are the players, so is Pascoe and the list could just keep going and going. They are all responsible for how screwed up we are.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

Ebbs
 
@tiger-tragic said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396005) said:
So, all these posts are in response to an article written by Paul Kent?

Why bother? It's sure to be just words imitating journalism. That's all he's got.

16-66. I think that might be a small factor.
 
these are responsible signing with whats available. i dont see big long silly signing like mbye reynolds packer. until i see silly signings then madge is bettter than the other coaches so far.
 
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395900) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

hes not responsible for anything, he is truly untouchable and none of the clubs results from this year or the two years prior have anything to do with him, didnt you know?

The thing is, you have to have 30 players on the books. You have to make choices. Madge was set a task to rebuild after the joint was practically burnt to the ground. To get to the 30, he signed a couple of stop gaps that may or may not have worked, ie: BJ, JTJ, etc. His priority signings were AD, DL, Simpkin, Simpkins, Blore and all the other 19 and 20 year olds who will be stars ( hopefully ) in a year or two ( or three ). Look at the improvement in Seyfarth from last season. Tamou is here for two years to help those guys along. Good move. Joffa is also a great signing, experience and grit for low dollars. Madge has a modicum of patience, unlike most forumers, and confidence in his long term plan. The team he won the comp with at Souths was built around two stars in Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, but Adam Reynolds was only a two season veteran, Dylan Walker season and a half, Johston, Gray, Koriasu rookies....he know's how to put a side together.
 
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

@Geo of course
 
@tigerballs said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396061) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395900) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395895) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395857) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395850) said:
@tigerwest said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395839) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

The players.

Makes you wonder why he signed them?

I think you need to understand how the process here works? If you are interested, google Adam Hartigan's story about joining the WT's, probably around the pre-season, it explains it quite well, it is also on here, but couldn't tell you where?

So he's not responsible for recruitment or the poor performances on the field. What is he responsible for?

hes not responsible for anything, he is truly untouchable and none of the clubs results from this year or the two years prior have anything to do with him, didnt you know?

The thing is, you have to have 30 players on the books. You have to make choices. Madge was set a task to rebuild after the joint was practically burnt to the ground. To get to the 30, he signed a couple of stop gaps that may or may not have worked, ie: BJ, JTJ, etc. His priority signings were AD, DL, Simpkin, Simpkins, Blore and all the other 19 and 20 year olds who will be stars ( hopefully ) in a year or two ( or three ). Look at the improvement in Seyfarth from last season. Tamou is here for two years to help those guys along. Good move. Joffa is also a great signing, experience and grit for low dollars. Madge has a modicum of patience, unlike most forumers, and confidence in his long term plan. The team he won the comp with at Souths was built around two stars in Sam Burgess and Greg Inglis, but Adam Reynolds was only a two season veteran, Dylan Walker season and a half, Johston, Gray, Koriasu rookies....he know's how to put a side together.

Your job as a coach is primarily a man manager, to get the best out of the players and ensure success on the field

You can blame the players, but the coach is responsible for their attitude, he has assembled them, he is responsible for their performance
 
we couldve got capewell when he left the sharks, look at him now

Yet the Tigers are not in discussions with him now (Broncos, Cowboys), now he has separated from his Qld fiancé surely the Tigers should have crack
 
@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .



@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .

I reckon that’s spot on. You can only give money to people willing to take it.
I think there’s probably plan A, B, C and D and we’re probably operating around the C level in terms of the calibre of players who agree to sign. That’s why when I read comments about Madge re signing players that many say are “his signings” I also think in some cases it might well be the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day we have to spend the cap and we have to have the squad filled by a point in time. Doesn’t make it anymore palatable though as a long suffering supporter.
 
@gcfan said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396135) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .



@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .

I reckon that’s spot on. You can only give money to people willing to take it.
I think there’s probably plan A, B, C and D and we’re probably operating around the C level in terms of the calibre of players who agree to sign. That’s why when I read comments about Madge re signing players that many say are “his signings” I also think in some cases it might well be the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day we have to spend the cap and we have to have the squad filled by a point in time. Doesn’t make it anymore palatable though as a long suffering supporter.

some good common sense points.
so many people say just sign smith/fifita/jac like it's a foregone conclusion that if we offer enough money they'll play for us but it really isn't that simple, and if it was then are they the types of players we want at our club because the first sniff of more money (matterson/aloiai) they're unhappy and out the door.
we need to build that culture that makes people want to play for us, and unfortunately it won't happen overnight or with high priced veterans. we need a good core group of young goers that play for each other not an oversized pay packet.
 
@hammertime said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395765) said:
I've hardly heard any negative comments around our recruitment when it has occurred. This team is better personnel-wise and has improved with some great trades and pick-ups.

Our true power is only going to come from pathways and holding onto talent. This stretches back to JT. If he was never given the reins and we were the club we are now, then maybe we would still have Tapau, JAC, Ted, Moses etc. It takes time to bring back top-tier talent like that when you're not winning.

It seems like that pathway was disregarded for a while and is now only being built back up. I point my finger to Pascoe for that. It's unacceptable that it was left to flounder.

That's where the accountability needs to sit. Not madge who is making every attempt to take a long-term focus.

To me it seems like we have the players to support 2 or 3 marquee players really well.

Our issue is we haven’t been able to attract the main event players a team needs to compete.

Add Tedesco, Moses and say Pangai or Grant to this team and we are a different beast.

We tried to get star power with Latrell and Addo Carr, but it didn’t happen.

We’ll land a star eventually. Just need to be patient.
 
@ozluke said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396140) said:
@gcfan said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396135) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .



@hobbo1 said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395771) said:
@snake said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395757) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395753) said:
@maryst said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395740) said:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2021-paul-kent-nrl360-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-james-roberts-joey-leilua-roster/news-story/ae0287b54532b62eb1ae941ed9ed285f

Yet he doesnt hold madge accountable for any of it?

Tom Amone - Madge signing
Shawn Blore - Madge signing
Luke Brooks - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Michael Chee-Kam - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Zac Cini - Past signing
Adam Doueihi (gk) - Madge signing
Luke Garner - Past signing
Asu Kepaoa - Madge signing
Daine Laurie - Madge signing
Joseph Leilua - Madge signing
Luciano Leilua - Madge signing
Jacob Liddle - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jock Madden (gk) - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Ken Maumalo - Madge signing
Moses Mbye (gk) - Past signing
Thomas Mikaele - Past signing
Zane Musgrove - Madge signing
David Nofoaluma - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Joe Ofahengaue - Madge signing
Russell Packer - Past signing
James Roberts - Madge signing
Alex Seyfarth - Past signing - Madge re-signing
Jake Simpkin - Madge signing
Tukimihia Simpkins - Madge signing
Tommy Talau - Past signing - Madge re-signing
James Tamou (c) - Madge signing
Alex Twal - Past signing
Stefano Utoikamanu - Madge signing
Billy Walters - Madge signing
Reece Hoffman - Past signing
William Kei - Madge signing
Kelma Tuilagi - Madge signing
Extended squad
Kiah Cooper - Madge signing
Junior Pauga - Madge signing


only 7 of the squad were from before Madges time... whos responsible here?

Just two I think, because outside of Mbye and Packer they were all signed or re-signed by Madge.

This is Maguires team these are the players he wanted ..no beating around the bush after 3 seasons this team is not a scratch on the one he took over and we seen how well coached and presented the team was on Saturday night !
A new coach needs to be put in place for 2022 before any more dud signings are made .

It’s not the players he wanted ..
I’m sure he’d of liked much better players. But unfortunately our roster are the only players Madge and the club could attract .

I reckon that’s spot on. You can only give money to people willing to take it.
I think there’s probably plan A, B, C and D and we’re probably operating around the C level in terms of the calibre of players who agree to sign. That’s why when I read comments about Madge re signing players that many say are “his signings” I also think in some cases it might well be the lesser of two evils. At the end of the day we have to spend the cap and we have to have the squad filled by a point in time. Doesn’t make it anymore palatable though as a long suffering supporter.

some good common sense points.
so many people say just sign smith/fifita/jac like it's a foregone conclusion that if we offer enough money they'll play for us but it really isn't that simple, and if it was then are they the types of players we want at our club because the first sniff of more money (matterson/aloiai) they're unhappy and out the door.
we need to build that culture that makes people want to play for us, and unfortunately it won't happen overnight or with high priced veterans. we need a good core group of young goers that play for each other not an oversized pay packet.

It sounds counter intuitive but I feel a bit nervous when I hear we’re gonna be cashed up for next season because unless you can replace everyone off contract with somebody better your end up where you are. That’s why we’ve got to have something appealing to compete with other clubs. Let’s hope there’s some kind of visionary whiz salesperson in our recruitment team that can sell ice to Eskimos because it’s a hard pitch to get them to the Tigers.
 
@weststigers said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396146) said:
@hammertime said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1395765) said:
I've hardly heard any negative comments around our recruitment when it has occurred. This team is better personnel-wise and has improved with some great trades and pick-ups.

Our true power is only going to come from pathways and holding onto talent. This stretches back to JT. If he was never given the reins and we were the club we are now, then maybe we would still have Tapau, JAC, Ted, Moses etc. It takes time to bring back top-tier talent like that when you're not winning.

It seems like that pathway was disregarded for a while and is now only being built back up. I point my finger to Pascoe for that. It's unacceptable that it was left to flounder.

That's where the accountability needs to sit. Not madge who is making every attempt to take a long-term focus.

To me it seems like we have the players to support 2 or 3 marquee players really well.

Our issue is we haven’t been able to attract the main event players a team needs to compete.

Add Tedesco, Moses and say Pangai or Grant to this team and we are a different beast.

We tried to get star power with Latrell and Addo Carr, but it didn’t happen.

We’ll land a star eventually. Just need to be patient.

Unfortunately, we may be too far gone for that given our lack of finals appearances. Especially with Hartigan not willing to pay overs.

The only path I can see is to build from within and find junior stars in our pathways.
 
@iofthetigers said in [Paul Kent \- 'Take a flamethrower to the roster'](/post/1396129) said:
we couldve got capewell when he left the sharks, look at him now

Yet the Tigers are not in discussions with him now (Broncos, Cowboys), now he has separated from his Qld fiancé surely the Tigers should have crack

Capewell almost literally told WT to get lost a few years ago when we enquired. He is not interested in us, nor should we be in him.
 
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