Penalty Try?

[TIGER]

There is a simple solution

The decoy doesn't get mixed up in the line , and definitely makes sure they run right through the defensive line

If the decoy hits the gap ( as he should whether he is a decoy or not ) it becomes simple .....the defender makes the bad option

Blame idiotic decoy runners ......it isn't that hard ....don't get caught or stop in the defensive line

What if you get caught or stop in the defensive line 25m away from where the line was broken and try scored?

What about 20m? 15m? 10m?
My point is, where do we draw the line as to what counts as obstruction?

If the obstructed player has no hope of making the tackle then does it matter if someone doesn't run through the line and obstructs them?

It's not as black n white as "stop in the line, no try"
We need common sense, there's nuance in these decisions.

 

[cktiger]

There is a simple solution

The decoy doesn't get mixed up in the line , and definitely makes sure they run right through the defensive line

If the decoy hits the gap ( as he should whether he is a decoy or not ) it becomes simple .....the defender makes the bad option

Blame idiotic decoy runners ......it isn't that hard ....don't get caught or stop in the defensive line

There's an even simpler one ... get rid of the play altogether.

 

[mike]

Who should the onus be on then? Which player?


The offside player! Nope

 

[cochise]

@mike Of course it is the offside players responsibility! He is in a position he is not supposed to be in, that is why he is offside!

 

[mike]

@mike Of course it is the offside players responsibility! He is in a position he is not supposed to be in, that is why he is offside!

You can’t just disappear. If the defender deliberately runs into them then that’s the defenders fault. It’s like when the dummy half used to deliberately throw the ball into an opponent nearby just to get a penalty. It’s ridiculous.

 

[cochise]

You can’t just disappear. If the defender deliberately runs into them then that’s the defenders fault.

And you can't be offside

 

[Jessica]

You can’t just disappear. If the defender deliberately runs into them then that’s the defenders fault.

And you can't be offside

Agree with you on the obstruction call front - would simply like to see refs getting even more hands on and not fading in/out of games - because it is slowly making things better.
Obviously this rule-book was actually written in grey lol

 

[cochise]

would simply like to see refs getting even more hands on

That is why I would go with a captains challenge system. Put the control back in the hands of the refs on the field!

 

[happy_tiger]

You can’t just disappear. If the defender deliberately runs into them then that’s the defenders fault.

And you can't be offside

Well the best thing I find with the rule is you don't get any surprises anymore

I watch the play fold out and you know straight up that it is or isn't try or no try

Again the decoy just needs to hit the gap and keep going through the line and it can't go wrong

Even that simpleton Geo must be able to see that ....he should use this quote as his signature

 

[cochise]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.

 

[mike]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.

Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

 

[cochise]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.


Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

Much clearer than a ref having to decide if the defender that was impeded by an OFFSIDE player is going to get to the ball carrier or not?

 

[happy_tiger]

There is a simple solution

The decoy doesn't get mixed up in the line , and definitely makes sure they run right through the defensive line

If the decoy hits the gap ( as he should whether he is a decoy or not ) it becomes simple .....the defender makes the bad option

Blame idiotic decoy runners ......it isn't that hard ....don't get caught or stop in the defensive line

What if you get caught or stop in the defensive line 25m away from where the line was broken and try scored?

What about 20m? 15m? 10m?
My point is, where do we draw the line as to what counts as obstruction?

If the obstructed player has no hope of making the tackle then does it matter if someone doesn't run through the line and obstructs them?

It's not as black n white as "stop in the line, no try"
We need common sense, there's nuance in these decisions.

Yes it is that simple

If you hit the hole and attempt to continue your attempt at running through the line defender must make a decision

 

[happy_tiger]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.


Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

Mike from the games I watch many times they don't even progress to grounding to avoid any confusion

I couldn't remember the last time I said the "what the " when I watched a video ref decision on an obstruction play

 

[mike]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.


Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

Mike from the games I watch many times they don't even progress to grounding to avoid any confusion

I couldn't remember the last time I said the "what the " when I watched a video ref decision on an obstruction play

lol. You must be watching different games because that’s my reaction every weekend. ?

 

[happy_tiger]

Maybe it's just me Mike ....if it ain't the WT's ..... Dilligaf tends to kick in lol

 

[cochise]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.


Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

Mike from the games I watch many times they don't even progress to grounding to avoid any confusion

I couldn't remember the last time I said the "what the " when I watched a video ref decision on an obstruction play


lol. You must be watching different games because that’s my reaction every weekend. ?

That is only because you disagree with the current interpretation! You don't like the rulings. When was the last time you didn't know why they disallowed it, taking your dislike for the the decision out of it?

 

[happy_tiger]

Maybe it's just me Mike ....if it ain't the WT's ..... Dilligaf tends to kick in lol

Unless it is one of my Fantasy players of course .....then the tangerine ,black and white / Maroons sunnies rule applies again

 

[mike]

@happy_tiger I agree 100%, if you are a decoy that goes into an offside position it is your responsibility to clear the defensive line without having an impact. The current interpretation is clear and I agree you can tell what is and isn't a try straight a way.


Yeah sure. That’s why it takes them several replays to make a decision. Clear as mud.

Mike from the games I watch many times they don't even progress to grounding to avoid any confusion

I couldn't remember the last time I said the "what the " when I watched a video ref decision on an obstruction play


lol. You must be watching different games because that’s my reaction every weekend. ?

That is only because you disagree with the current interpretation! You don't like the rulings. When was the last time you didn't know why they disallowed it, taking your dislike for the the decision out of it?

You are right I don’t like the rule. There have been many disallowed trys this year that in any other era would be a try. The rule is just plain wrong.

 

[cochise]

There have been many disallowed trys this year that in any other era would be a try.

I disagree with that.

You are right I don’t like the rule.

Are you able to see the reason the tries are being disallowed under the current interpretations?