Penalty Try

[cochise]

Even before the crack down it would have been a penalty try.
No idea what ex players or neutrals in general are complaining about

High contact in the act of scoring a try .. pretty simple really

I think it's more that a foul play prevented him from scoring. To me it was clear that the punch on the ball stopped him from scoring and the high shot was incidental. A penalty in my books not a penalty try. But at the end, it all evens out. We've had a lot of dud calls our way too.

Yeah I see where you’re coming from. But the foul play came in the act of scoring a try, and the first initial contact hit him across the chops.The responsibility is completely on the defender there

If first contact is with the head then it is a penalty try. A penalty try isn't for foul play in the act of scoring a try though, it is foul play that prevents a certain try from being scored. So if first contact is with the ball knocking it out and then there is contact with the head that is not a penalty try and just a penalty for the contact with the head.

 

[Speed2burn]

Even before the crack down it would have been a penalty try.
No idea what ex players or neutrals in general are complaining about

High contact in the act of scoring a try .. pretty simple really

I think it's more that a foul play prevented him from scoring. To me it was clear that the punch on the ball stopped him from scoring and the high shot was incidental. A penalty in my books not a penalty try. But at the end, it all evens out. We've had a lot of dud calls our way too.

Yeah I see where you’re coming from. But the foul play came in the act of scoring a try, and the first initial contact hit him across the chops.The responsibility is completely on the defender there

If first contact is with the head then it is a penalty try. A penalty try isn't for foul play in the act of scoring a try though, it is foul play that prevents a certain try from being scored. So if first contact is with the ball knocking it out and then there is contact with the head that is not a penalty try and just a penalty for the contact with the head.

Fair enough, I guess I could use a little brush up on the interpretations myself lol

 

[tig_prmz]

Bwaife said if Luciano doesn’t stay down it’s a no try ..
Bwaife is a Wanker

Clearly hasn't been whacked across the head enough..

 

[tig_prmz]

Even before the crack down it would have been a penalty try.
No idea what ex players or neutrals in general are complaining about

High contact in the act of scoring a try .. pretty simple really

I think it's more that a foul play prevented him from scoring. To me it was clear that the punch on the ball stopped him from scoring and the high shot was incidental. A penalty in my books not a penalty try. But at the end, it all evens out. We've had a lot of dud calls our way too.

I've only seen the replay on the small screen at the game, was contact made with the ball before the head?

Yep, but the ball was lost in the direction of the punch, not a cold drop.

It depends on 1st contact for me, if first contact is the head Penalty Try, if first contact is the ball then just a penalty.


If Jennings punched the ball out while playing at the ball then (ignoring the head contact) it's not a knock on from Luc and Garner grounds the ball for a try.
So it's a try either way - just would have made the kick slightly more difficult.

I'm actually confused about this. Defenders play at the ball in the act of scoring which you're allowed to, but isn't it an automatic knock on if you drop the ball over the line?

 

[tig_prmz]

Even before the crack down it would have been a penalty try.
No idea what ex players or neutrals in general are complaining about

High contact in the act of scoring a try .. pretty simple really

I think it's more that a foul play prevented him from scoring. To me it was clear that the punch on the ball stopped him from scoring and the high shot was incidental. A penalty in my books not a penalty try. But at the end, it all evens out. We've had a lot of dud calls our way too.

Yeah I see where you’re coming from. But the foul play came in the act of scoring a try, and the first initial contact hit him across the chops.The responsibility is completely on the defender there

If first contact is with the head then it is a penalty try. A penalty try isn't for foul play in the act of scoring a try though, it is foul play that prevents a certain try from being scored. So if first contact is with the ball knocking it out and then there is contact with the head that is not a penalty try and just a penalty for the contact with the head.

Did Luch drop the ball because of the head contact? If he wasn't whacked across the head, would he have scored the try? I don't think so. He didn't score the try because the ball was punched out. We got lucky this time IMO.

 

[TigerWest]

Even before the crack down it would have been a penalty try.
No idea what ex players or neutrals in general are complaining about

High contact in the act of scoring a try .. pretty simple really

I think it's more that a foul play prevented him from scoring. To me it was clear that the punch on the ball stopped him from scoring and the high shot was incidental. A penalty in my books not a penalty try. But at the end, it all evens out. We've had a lot of dud calls our way too.

Yeah I see where you’re coming from. But the foul play came in the act of scoring a try, and the first initial contact hit him across the chops.The responsibility is completely on the defender there

If first contact is with the head then it is a penalty try. A penalty try isn't for foul play in the act of scoring a try though, it is foul play that prevents a certain try from being scored. So if first contact is with the ball knocking it out and then there is contact with the head that is not a penalty try and just a penalty for the contact with the head.

**Did Luch drop the ball because of the head contact**? If he wasn't whacked across the head, would he have scored the try? I don't think so. He didn't score the try because the ball was punched out. We got lucky this time IMO.

I guess we will never know, but the rules are the rules, it happens to all teams.

Anyway, it didn't cost them the gain.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

I have no argument it was a penalty try.

My question is under the new interpretations it was a swinging arm with forceful high contact, doesn't that constitute a trip to the bin?

Yep, my thoughts too.

The on field ref seemed very hesitant and unsure of himself.

I think the penalty try is deemed the bigger punishment in this instance

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

There was a lot of debate about Lucy staying down but it was a try scoring situation that the ref was checking anyway so that fact is irrelevant.

For mine high contact in act of scoring penalty try

 

[Geo]

I thought the contact was force full..

Maybe Bwaith should line up and Wests Tigers forum members could take turns of belting him in the head to varying degrees and see if he gets up or stays down..

 

[Guest]

There's no debate.
Player hits player in head in the act of scoring a try. Player drops ball. Penalty try. Simple decision.

 

[tiger_one]

There's no debate.
Player hits player in head in the act of scoring a try. Player drops ball. Penalty try. Simple decision.

Champion @Dwight-Schrute - you nailed it.
Simple decision.
Bwaith is wrong (again!).

 

[Guest]

Did the player intentionally go in to hit Leilua high? No - but he did hit him high, and had he not, gravity would have taken its natural course and Lucy scores a try. So yes, penalty try was the correct decision.

Was Jennings put on report for that though?

 

[tiger_one]

Did the player intentionally go in to hit Leilua high? No - but he did hit him high, and had he not, gravity would have taken its natural course and Lucy scores a try. So yes, penalty try was the correct decision.

Was Jennings put on report for that though?

Not at the game - today's match review may tell a different story.

 

[Newtown]

I don’t know what all the fuss is about our penalty try. Same thing happened a long time ago when Jamie Ainscough connected with Mark Geyer’s head and Geyer dropped the ball as he tried to score - cost St George a Grand Final.

It’s nothing new and this time it certainly didn’t make any difference to the result, we were already in front. Press just have to make a big deal about it because God forbid the Wests Tigers be allowed to enjoy a fair victory!

Anasta was just trying to fill in time and picked on this. Maybe he was still a baby when that incident occurred in the grand final. I hope Anasta hasn't continued with his Gatorade hate agenda against Wests Tigers. Biased commentators won't last too long.

 

[Milky]

Jennings owed us that one

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

I've been a supporter of the crackdown as I understand they have to draw a line in the sand, but seriously some of those penalties last night to both sides were really soft. Not Luch's one but most of the others.
We've got through the crackdown without any sin bins or suspensions so far, but will any of our players be cited from last night? Maybe Seyfarth for the hit on the player on the ground and the leg lift. Any others?

 

[JayT]

It wouldn't have been a penalty try pre crackdown, it was soft but its how they are officiating now so fair enough

 

[hobbo1]

I've been a supporter of the crackdown as I understand they have to draw a line in the sand, but seriously some of those penalties last night to both sides were really soft. Not Luch's one but most of the others.
We've got through the crackdown without any sin bins or suspensions so far, but will any of our players be cited from last night? Maybe Seyfarth for the hit on the player on the ground and the leg lift. Any others?

Garner will be the only one of our players charged for the “supposed” crusher tackle .. which is also a farce

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

There was a fair bit of conjecture from the fox commentators. Pretty much implying that If Luch didn't stay down it would have just been called a knock on.

Imo that was a dead set penalty try, even before the head high crackdown. Whacked him in the chops over the line. Yes he also knocked the ball out but clearly made forceful contact with the head.

Laurie on the other hand...☺️

It is unfortunate but that is the way the game is going it has happened many times to WT'S and I'm glad the WT'S are adopting the attitude of when in Rome do as the Roman's do.
Watching the game last night the ref was looking for every opportunity to ping the WT'S but thank goodness the team showed resilience and were able to overcome the adversity.

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

Did the player intentionally go in to hit Leilua high? No - but he did hit him high, and had he not, gravity would have taken its natural course and Lucy scores a try. So yes, penalty try was the correct decision.

Was Jennings put on report for that though?

Not at the game - today's match review may tell a different story.

He was put on report I believe. I’m pretty sure it was done as the penalty try was awarded.