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@matty tiepie said:
The Labour party is bloody terrible and anyone who defends them has their head in the sand. Great idea to have a carbon tax that does nothing to help the climate. Yoss i just cant beleive you can defend this bunch of liars and loonies. Next you will tell me that Rob dopeshot is a good politician. Please spare me
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it's important to remember that Tony Abbott and the Coalition have the same 5% emissions reductions target as Labor, so 'doing nothing to help the climate' has bipartisan support.

The thing is Abbott's scheme will cost much more than the carbon tax and has no guarantee of results. [results in terms of reducing emissions]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/abbotts-direct-action-to-cost-double-that-of-labors-carbon-attack/story-fn99tjf2-1226128448888
 
@Flippedy said:
@tomcat said:
Boss Yoss why is the prime minister doing so terribly bad in the polls ??Do you think it has anything to do with the Carbon Tax? And do you think she will lead the country again at the next election. Actually i'll answer the last question for you.
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I'll have a go at answering that for you, Tom. She is going bad in the polls because:

1\. The way she became PM - the whole drama with her replacing Rudd would have left a bad taste in many people's mouths, even though she wasn't the one initiating the 'backstabbing' (she was just next in line to take over) but as the new leader she cops **all** the blame.
2\. Then the stalemate at the election wouldn't have helped either. The govt being decided by Independents, instead of the people, gives everyone the opportunity to say "well we didn't vote her in, she' s not the people's PM blah, blah". I wonder if we would've heard the same rhetoric if Tony and the Libs had won that stalemate?
3\. The intense hatred for her being whipped up by the media, particularly 2GB and the Telegraph, both of which most of the country seem to listen to and read.
4\. Most Australians are still quite Neanderthal in their thinking and cannot stomach the thought of a woman being a leader. Hence, points 2 & 3.
5\. She's in the Labor Party - they are always much more harshly criticised, when in Govt, than the Libs, even when they have exactly the same policies and make similar decisions.

Will she lead the country again at the next election? I have no idea.

Hope this helps :neutral_face:
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Flippedy, I think I can add a few more.

6\. The waste of billions of our money through badly designed and executed policy.
7\. The looming waste of exponentially more Billions from the NBN… Turnbulls cautious FTTN policy is FAR more sensible.
8\. Lying on a subject that probably would have lost her enough seats in the election to have the Liberals in Power

As to 4, you are crazy man... You only need to look at Hillary Clinton or Condeliza Rice to see an impressive Female Leader. Julia is not.
 
@Winnipeg said:
@matty tiepie said:
The Labour party is bloody terrible and anyone who defends them has their head in the sand. Great idea to have a carbon tax that does nothing to help the climate. Yoss i just cant beleive you can defend this bunch of liars and loonies. Next you will tell me that Rob dopeshot is a good politician. Please spare me

it's important to remember that Tony Abbott and the Coalition have the same 5% emissions reductions target as Labor, so 'doing nothing to help the climate' has bipartisan support.

The thing is Abbott's scheme will cost much more than the carbon tax and has no guarantee of results. [results in terms of reducing emissions]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/abbotts-direct-action-to-cost-double-that-of-labors-carbon-attack/story-fn99tjf2-1226128448888
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Agreed. Abbotts idea is lunacy. I hope he never executes it when he comes to power.

I do worry about the margins that the Financial Institutions will collect when Carbon Credits start trading. You only need to look at Enron's Electricity trading to realise what potential downside it has. Hopefully Labors policy design and execution is smart for once.
 
@tomcat said:
@Yossarian said:
@tomcat said:
Talking to a mate from Bunnings who told me customers are now buying garden solar lights putting them in the garden all day then bringing them in sde at night time for lighting .With electricity prices about to SOAR with the carbon tax coming in on July 1st who can blame them..

Well maybe they can USE the $6 a week they save to BUY a sausage SANDWICH from the kids out in the CAR PARK.
I mean seriously they probably used more than $6 in fuel going to Bunnings in the first place…

Mate don't poke fun at those who genuinely cannot afford the increases imposed by this CARBON TAX HOAX.Typical labor way of thinking, PUT A TAX ON EVERYTHING AND "SCREW YOU JACK.!!!
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i thought it was the howard liberal govt that put a tax on just about everything …. its called the GST !!!
 
@hammertime said:
@Winnipeg said:
@matty tiepie said:
The Labour party is bloody terrible and anyone who defends them has their head in the sand. Great idea to have a carbon tax that does nothing to help the climate. Yoss i just cant beleive you can defend this bunch of liars and loonies. Next you will tell me that Rob dopeshot is a good politician. Please spare me

it's important to remember that Tony Abbott and the Coalition have the same 5% emissions reductions target as Labor, so 'doing nothing to help the climate' has bipartisan support.

The thing is Abbott's scheme will cost much more than the carbon tax and has no guarantee of results. [results in terms of reducing emissions]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/abbotts-direct-action-to-cost-double-that-of-labors-carbon-attack/story-fn99tjf2-1226128448888

Agreed. Abbotts idea is lunacy. I hope he never executes it when he comes to power.

I do worry about the margins that the Financial Institutions will collect when Carbon Credits start trading. You only need to look at Enron's Electricity trading to realise what potential downside it has. Hopefully Labors policy design and execution is smart for once.
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Hammer Your not switching with Yoss to the dark side are you 😱pen_mouth:
 
Always thought that Slipper character looked like a sleazebag…what a sicko

Too bad the king cant execute him, like they did in the old days...speaker was always first neck on the chopping block when parliament was dissolved, thats why none of em ever wanted the job, thus manhandeled into the chair
 
@happy tiger said:
@hammertime said:
@Winnipeg said:
@matty tiepie said:
The Labour party is bloody terrible and anyone who defends them has their head in the sand. Great idea to have a carbon tax that does nothing to help the climate. Yoss i just cant beleive you can defend this bunch of liars and loonies. Next you will tell me that Rob dopeshot is a good politician. Please spare me

it's important to remember that Tony Abbott and the Coalition have the same 5% emissions reductions target as Labor, so 'doing nothing to help the climate' has bipartisan support.

The thing is Abbott's scheme will cost much more than the carbon tax and has no guarantee of results. [results in terms of reducing emissions]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/abbotts-direct-action-to-cost-double-that-of-labors-carbon-attack/story-fn99tjf2-1226128448888

Agreed. Abbotts idea is lunacy. I hope he never executes it when he comes to power.

I do worry about the margins that the Financial Institutions will collect when Carbon Credits start trading. You only need to look at Enron's Electricity trading to realise what potential downside it has. Hopefully Labors policy design and execution is smart for once.

Hammer Your not switching with Yoss to the dark side are you 😱pen_mouth:
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Haha, never happy. I like to think im a centrist anyway. But surely you also agree abbotts plan is a bit silly? An ETS is actually the ideal liberal market mechanism… The wealth distribution is purely labor though!!
 
@Yossarian said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Bet the Libs are happy he's not associated with them now.

Well they knew about him for 9 years and yet it's only become an issue for them since he became speaker…
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I agree, it's a bit sus yoss. But so is gillard clinging to power by paying out independents with our taxes in back-room deals and clinging onto criminal scumbags like Thompson. For me, the latter is far worse.
 
Bill SHorten's answer when asked if Peter Slipper should return as speaker of the house. Words fail me at this time…

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=12548
 
@Chris said:
Bill SHorten's answer when asked if Peter Slipper should return as speaker of the house. Words fail me at this time…

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=12548
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:laughing: What a moron. Bill Shorten is a braindead clown. He is a prime example of why I hate the Labor party promoting union officials to cabinet. No original thought, no creativity just tow the party line and you will have a job.

…and people were throwing this idiot's name up as a potential PM :crazy
 
@hammertime said:
@Yossarian said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Bet the Libs are happy he's not associated with them now.

Well they knew about him for 9 years and yet it's only become an issue for them since he became speaker…

I agree, it's a bit sus yoss. But so is gillard clinging to power by paying out independents with our taxes in back-room deals and clinging onto criminal scumbags like Thompson. For me, the latter is far worse.
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You don't think Tony wouldn't do the same? He'd sell out his grandma for a month of power.
 
Yeah cause keeping Australia out of recession during the GFC and keeping interest rates low is selling out the country. If the Libs did the same thing you'd be tripping over your feet to kiss their boots.
 
Another Labour ripper We are designing 12 new submarines in Adelaide to replace the Coffins Class subs (no ,thats not a spelling error ,ask anyone who was stationed on one )

What a waste of funding again Smith couldn't answer half the questions
 
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