Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

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@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.
 
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149907) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.


It is not the guns that are the problems, it is the mentality behind it. Other countries have the same right to own a gun, but do not invoke that right at the same rate.

Even in countries where the level of gun ownership is high, they generally don't discharge them at their neighbours, classmates, work colleagues and the general population at the same rate.

While your cousins situation is terrible, I would suggest that it is unlikely that he is locked up for 35 years for owning a gun. He may have done something with it, which is a decision that he made.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149906) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

It's a pity they don't have the capability to amend their constitution.

They might end up adding to their 27 amendments that its law you must own a gun not just the right to have one. Who knows.
 
@Harvey said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149931) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149907) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.


It is not the guns that are the problems, it is the mentality behind it. Other countries have the same right to own a gun, but do not invoke that right at the same rate.

Even in countries where the level of gun ownership is high, they generally don't discharge them at their neighbours, classmates, work colleagues and the general population at the same rate.

While your cousins situation is terrible, I would suggest that it is unlikely that he is locked up for 35 years for owning a gun. He may have done something with it, which is a decision that he made.

Yeah, unfortunately it's a gun culture and a poor one at that. They took a piece of paper that was written 233 years ago, aimed at giving a militia the right to bear arms if the government got out of control with its citizens and take it far too literally. Now they have more guns than people and that will never change.

I'm not anti-gun either. I own several and compete on a state and national level but I look after them and use them in accordance with the law. The best thing we did was ban semi-autos as from a civilian perspective, there's no practical need or use for them.

Go to the US and every second person has an M4 and that comes back to their mentality. Apparently they need them for protection...protection from what??? I can't believe the average law abiding citizen would have that many enemies...
 
@willow said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149940) said:
@Harvey said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149931) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149907) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.


It is not the guns that are the problems, it is the mentality behind it. Other countries have the same right to own a gun, but do not invoke that right at the same rate.

Even in countries where the level of gun ownership is high, they generally don't discharge them at their neighbours, classmates, work colleagues and the general population at the same rate.

While your cousins situation is terrible, I would suggest that it is unlikely that he is locked up for 35 years for owning a gun. He may have done something with it, which is a decision that he made.

Yeah, unfortunately it's a gun culture and a poor one at that. They took a piece of paper that was written 233 years ago, aimed at giving a militia the right to bear arms if the government got out of control with its citizens and take it far too literally. Now they have more guns than people and that will never change.

I'm not anti-gun either. I own several and compete on a state and national level but I look after them and use them in accordance with the law. The best thing we did was ban semi-autos as from a civilian perspective, there's no practical need or use for them.

Go to the US and every second person has an M4 and that comes back to their mentality. Apparently they need them for protection...protection from what??? I can't believe the average law abiding citizen would have that many enemies...

I can honestly say i have never met a non american who believes that the general public should have access to military hardware and i have spoken to many americans who live in Australia and the majority of them are against it as well.
 
@willow said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149940) said:
@Harvey said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149931) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149907) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.


It is not the guns that are the problems, it is the mentality behind it. Other countries have the same right to own a gun, but do not invoke that right at the same rate.

Even in countries where the level of gun ownership is high, they generally don't discharge them at their neighbours, classmates, work colleagues and the general population at the same rate.

While your cousins situation is terrible, I would suggest that it is unlikely that he is locked up for 35 years for owning a gun. He may have done something with it, which is a decision that he made.

Yeah, unfortunately it's a gun culture and a poor one at that. They took a piece of paper that was written 233 years ago, aimed at giving a militia the right to bear arms if the government got out of control with its citizens and take it far too literally. Now they have more guns than people and that will never change.

I'm not anti-gun either. I own several and compete on a state and national level but I look after them and use them in accordance with the law. The best thing we did was ban semi-autos as from a civilian perspective, there's no practical need or use for them.

Go to the US and every second person has an M4 and that comes back to their mentality. Apparently they need them for protection...protection from what??? I can't believe the average law abiding citizen would have that many enemies...

Its a self-fulfilling prophecy for them. Need muh gun cause who knows who else has a gun. Really really weird logic from an outsiders perspective.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

To shoot the zombies?
 
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149955) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

Almost as embarrassing as the Toilet paper rush.

Even more embarrasing because you use toilet paper every day i doubt if many people shoot every day
 
@mike said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149953) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

To shoot the zombies?

The virus apparently.
 
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149907) said:
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149898) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.

Sadly, your cousin could also have been handed an unnecessarily long sentence as part of the corruption exposed system of having for profit prisons, though I believe California has started to phase such ridiculousness out from this year.

I am not going to get into more disagreements with full on right wingers over the constitution, but the amendment was for the times and to form militia over sovereignty issues, and not meant to relate to today. Let us on here not pretend that those bearing arms at the recent US protests are anything more than white supremacists and a quick look at the equivalent protests here virtually mirrors their protest demographic, being one that is not at all representative of the community.

If anyone wants to argue about it, they should first consider the relevance of something written in the 1700's that adds to a document that perversely, also states that all men are free and equal being created that way.

Tell that to the slaves that made up about a fifth of the population, of which many hundreds, if not thousands of them were owned by the actual framers of the document and their first president. Not to mention of course, the native Americans that were also denied such rights and killed if they wanted to bear arms, as it was not written simply as a right to own or carry a gun, with many areas or towns not allowing guns at all.
 
Just watching on Four Corners, the coalition's hi fiving on that disastrous day in 2014 that they repealed the functioning ETS and created another unnecessary six years or more of climate politics.

We have since as a nation paid a lot more for every decreased tonne of reduction than we would have otherwise, not to mention the subsequent rises in electricity cost. What an abject failure and cost to our country the elevation of Tony Abbott was.

The comment from Ken Henry of them carrying on like a group of school children and primary ones at that, fitted the moment quite well.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

People were worried about loss of income, not paying bills and people doing crazy stuff crime wise to get by. Gun sales were massive. Wonder if the NRA had much to say in guiding Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. We were over in the states when corona started to break out in seattle/portland. Was dead quite but wallmart had lineups for gun sales (yeah the local supermarket sold guns).

Spoke with a few and they were very worried about what would follow crime wise. A person we know would take a gun to the bath with them.

Don’t view it as funny, view it as terrible leadership.

We are bloody lucky here in Aus
 
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150012) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

People were worried about loss of income, not paying bills and people doing crazy stuff crime wise to get by. Gun sales were massive. Wonder if the NRA had much to say in guiding Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. We were over in the states when corona started to break out in seattle/portland. Was dead quite but wallmart had lineups for gun sales (yeah the local supermarket sold guns).

Spoke with a few and they were very worried about what would follow crime wise. A person we know would take a gun to the bath with them.

Don’t view it as funny, view it as terrible leadership.

We are bloody lucky here in Aus


Christ! So Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is to blame for people buying guns legally.

You people have dead set lost your minds.
 
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150013) said:
@Mighty_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150012) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149952) said:
It was funny when the virus first hit, gun sales went through the roof.

People were worried about loss of income, not paying bills and people doing crazy stuff crime wise to get by. Gun sales were massive. Wonder if the NRA had much to say in guiding Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. We were over in the states when corona started to break out in seattle/portland. Was dead quite but wallmart had lineups for gun sales (yeah the local supermarket sold guns).

Spoke with a few and they were very worried about what would follow crime wise. A person we know would take a gun to the bath with them.

Don’t view it as funny, view it as terrible leadership.

We are bloody lucky here in Aus


Christ! So Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is to blame for people buying guns legally.

You people have dead set lost your minds.

Colinbh, i once saw a documentary that showed Hitler eating toast, ive also seen Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon eat toast, so ya know, draw your own conclusions but its pretty obvious.
 
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?
 
So after the 2020 Democratic National Convention on August 20th who do you think will be the 2020 Democrat Presidential candidate? Creepy Joe has way too much baggage with the #metoo allegations and his parties double standards exposed, quid pro Joe corruption in Ukraine and China and his parties double standards exposed and just general weird sniffing of children, not to mention the least of his worries - to be in the late stages of early onset dementia.

Who's it going to be for that 10 week, pull out all the guns, definitely no false flags to be had, run home to the highly dubious voter fraud mail-in elections? Third times a charm Hillary? Mrs Barry 'Fast and the Furious Scandal' Soetoro? Oprah? or The Rock?
 
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