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@Harvey said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149931) said:
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@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149905) said:
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@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1149818) said:
Weird how the very multicultural Melbourne also has a protest turnout that oddly looks very much like the one's in the US **but minus the guns** and confederate flags. Of course, it is not weird nor odd, rather a common theme going on.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1259306149930651648

I'll never understand Murica and their guns. My cousin was born here but moved to L.A when he was 2 and he is in lock up because of bloody guns...when i say they should be banned i get lambasted by Americans...


Right or wrong, it’s in their constitution. Get over it.

yup, i suppose i should just get over my cousin being nonsensically locked up for 35 years. Just human life. Watevers.


It is not the guns that are the problems, it is the mentality behind it. Other countries have the same right to own a gun, but do not invoke that right at the same rate.

Even in countries where the level of gun ownership is high, they generally don't discharge them at their neighbours, classmates, work colleagues and the general population at the same rate.

While your cousins situation is terrible, I would suggest that it is unlikely that he is locked up for 35 years for owning a gun. He may have done something with it, which is a decision that he made.

The real question should not be whether or not Yanks should have guns, it should be whether or not they should reproduce.....
 
I predicted months ago at some point he’ll start claiming Covid deaths have been padded to make him look bad. While we that hasn’t happened, the dumber son came out yesterday, saying after November the virus will “magically disappear”. It’s been reported even Donald is claiming behind closed doors that the numbers are wrong. How long till he goes public with those claims.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150027) said:
I predicted months ago at some point he’ll start claiming Covid deaths have been padded to make him look bad. While we that hasn’t happened, the dumber son came out yesterday, saying after November the virus will “magically disappear”. It’s been reported even Donald is claiming behind closed doors that the numbers are wrong. How long till he goes public with those claims.

It's been public and well known for weeks now hospitals were marking causes of death as Covid if the patient died with Covid even if it wasn't the direct cause of death to receive funding. Unfortunately it doesn't get reported on CNN and ABC, only on new channels.

There was 4 drive bys in Chicago overnight, 7 people died, cause of death was Covid.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Jr was also right about the Democrat manufacted crisis at the border during the Mueller stolen mid terms. Conviently such a huge issue right up until election day pandering to their base and then the Democrats are completely silent on immigration and those caravans magically went away. 🤔
 
Barr has come out and stated he won't lay chargers against Obama and Biden even before an investigation. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon must be pretty annoyed that he doesnt have the DOJ in his pocket doing his political bidding like Obama did with Holder and Lynch for his entire Presidency. How easily people forget how rigged Obama had the system set up. One needs to look no further than Holders contempt of Congress protecting Obama and Comeys finding that Hillary broke the law but no chargers would be recommended. The MSM was remarkably silent at the time. If he had the constant barrage Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets RINO Mitt probably would have won in 2012.
 
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.
 
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!
 
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

"How Dare You"

Notice these are the same fools, I mean 'Climate scientists' (like thats a thing) that were trying to sell 'global freezing' in the 70s and then 'global warming' in the 90s, now the marketing narrative has been changed to 'climate change'. God, these people give such a belly aching laugh.

Love how all these Global Climate Change activists continue to buy million dollar seaside properties.
 
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

So ..restrictions aren't required in relation to Covid 19..based on modelling
 
@Geo said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150055) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

So ..restrictions aren't required in relation to Covid 19..

No more then the usual influenza each year. Big panic for diddly. Good psy op though to see how people react in a 'pandemic'. Gotta get the toilet paper issues tweaked.
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/coronavirus-tanzania-test-kits-suspicion-goat-pawpaw-positive-a9501291.html

https://nypost.com/2020/05/06/faulty-coronavirus-kits-suspected-as-goat-and-fruit-test-positive-in-tanzania/

https://www.africanews.com/2020/05/06/tanzania-how-can-goat-papaya-pawpaw-test-positive-to-corona-morning-call//



Kind of skews the numbers when the tests are designed to give a positive result? I wonder why? hmmm :thinking_face:
 
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150057) said:
@Geo said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150055) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

So ..restrictions aren't required in relation to Covid 19..

No more then the usual influenza each year. Big panic for diddly. Good psy op though to see how people react in a 'pandemic'. Gotta get the toilet paper issues tweaked.

How can you claim that the modelling of what would happen if there no restrictions was wrong?
We had restrictions put in place, we can't know now whether those predictions the models depicted would have eventuated, unless you have a time machine.

It's all perspective, there really is no ground for either side of the argument. The only interesting thing here for me is why people have the perspective they do.
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150085) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150057) said:
@Geo said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150055) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

So ..restrictions aren't required in relation to Covid 19..

No more then the usual influenza each year. Big panic for diddly. Good psy op though to see how people react in a 'pandemic'. Gotta get the toilet paper issues tweaked.

How can you claim that the modelling of what would happen if there no restrictions was wrong?
We had restrictions put in place, we can't know now whether those predictions the models depicted would have eventuated, unless you have a time machine.

It's all perspective, there really is no ground for either side of the argument. The only interesting thing here for me is why people have the perspective they do.


I’m afraid you are incorrect. The modelling that was released INCLUDED restrictions.
 
@colinbh said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150106) said:
@JD-Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150085) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150057) said:
@Geo said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150055) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

So ..restrictions aren't required in relation to Covid 19..

No more then the usual influenza each year. Big panic for diddly. Good psy op though to see how people react in a 'pandemic'. Gotta get the toilet paper issues tweaked.

How can you claim that the modelling of what would happen if there no restrictions was wrong?
We had restrictions put in place, we can't know now whether those predictions the models depicted would have eventuated, unless you have a time machine.

It's all perspective, there really is no ground for either side of the argument. The only interesting thing here for me is why people have the perspective they do.


I’m afraid you are incorrect. The modelling that was released INCLUDED restrictions.

Okay, I thought they were having a go at the modelling which resulted in the restrictions put in place.
So you're saying that restrictions have resulted in an even better outcome than they first predicted? Well that's good, isn't it?
 
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Dotn3NMpg

The entire environmental movement has deviated from its noble beginnings and is now beholden "to the extreme left" according to former Greenpeace Canada president Patrick Moore.

Mr Moore said while some groups, like Extinction Rebellion, function as a "cult" even mainstream environment groups like Greenpeace are pushing "phony" campaigns.

"Before you know it, as it happened with Greenpeace, it turns into a racket," he told Sky News.

"By the mid 80s, we had basically addressed all the really pressing environmental issues of air and water pollution, and many of the other issues.

"Now they just make up issues, like the 'War on plastics' is completely phony, and so is the GMO scare, and so is the worry about radiation from nuclear power plants."

"It's all completely irrational... I think the environmental movement is so far off into the extreme left politically it isn't an environmental movement anymore."
 
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150118) said:
By the mid 80s, we had basically addressed all the really pressing environmental issues of air and water pollution, and many of the other issues

"By the mid 80s, we had basically addressed all the really pressing environmental issues of air and water pollution, and many of the other issues" - that is up there with one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. I wouldn't put much stock in what this Mr Moore is saying if that's a soundbite of his.
 
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

Do you understand that there is a difference between climate and weather? Though related they are not the same.
 
@mike said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150121) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

Do you understand that there is a difference between climate and weather? Though related they are not the same.

Wish the Climate change mob would understand that.
 
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150122) said:
@mike said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150121) said:
@Snake said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150040) said:
@diedpretty said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150033) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150016) said:
Remember when all the experts we were all told Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should be listening to said the US would see upwards of 2.2 million deaths from the Chinese Virus and with the US currently at total deaths under 90K (with half of that expected to be adjusted to 'died from Corona' not 'died with Corona') just wondering where all the praise is for the current administration doing an extraordinary job by saving over 2 million lives?

The same can be said for here though - all the rubbish of 150k deaths - total BS. Those who do the modelling should be called out for what charlatans they are.

The same people using the modelling for climate change .. It was suppose to be fine today guess what it’s raining ... but the modelling says it will be 20degress hotter in 2060 ? and someone will answer and try to justify it ... fools!

Do you understand that there is a difference between climate and weather? Though related they are not the same.

Wish the Climate change mob would understand that.

I’m not sure who the mob is you are referring to are. Care to elaborate?
 
@JD-Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150120) said:
@Tigers2020 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1150118) said:
By the mid 80s, we had basically addressed all the really pressing environmental issues of air and water pollution, and many of the other issues

"By the mid 80s, we had basically addressed all the really pressing environmental issues of air and water pollution, and many of the other issues" - that is **up there with one of the most stupid things I've ever heard**. I wouldn't put much stock in what this Mr Moore is saying if that's a soundbite of his.

This is THE stupidest thing ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMGq4LNCxQQ
 
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