Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.

Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".

 

[GNR4LIFE]

It was a big story for a day, but when I do a google search, the story is buried. Maybe the google algorithm is also in on the conspiracy ?‍♂️

Just had pages and pages highlighting the suppression by the left tech companies and this guy acts like its a new thing. My lord.

Don’t know what you are talking about

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".

Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.

You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

 

[TillLindemann]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.

If the same story was about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon it would definitely get major coverage. Every second day for the past 4 years there's been front page 'bombshell' stories about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's ties to Russia, most of which were based on anonymous sources and later debunked.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.

 

[Guest]

Unfortunately politics tends to bring out the worst in people and it's sad to see that happen with a couple of people on here. I'll be very clear, personal attacks on one another won't be tolerated.

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.

Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?

Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

There is corruption going on in our own backyard infiltrating the highest levels of NSW parliament and you are all arguing about who a presidential candidates son hangs out with. No wonder we get the government's we deserve in this country...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

You think a potential Democratic Senate will impeach him? I can already see what will happen if he wins. The Democrats will get plastered for aiding and abetting the same way the Republicans have the last 4 years. I suppose it’s different this time round though, and the Dems really would be. Whereas the Republicans were justified cos Donald was on the level

 

[The_Return]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (**same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you)**. I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

Careful, thats an alt right conspiracy theory :face_with_rolling_eyes:

 

[Celtic_Tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIjaLmOTkEE

Cant wait for the die hard lefties in this thread to actually watch this and address it.


Crickets.


Die hard lefties ?

There one is


Give me examples of how I’m a die hard leftie. This will be fun.

Oh, i must be wrong, i guess all along youve been a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fan. My apologies.


This is pretty telling. Anyone who doesn’t like him is a hardcore leftie. Thanks for confirming what I have always suspected

Oh, so youre a centrist. To be fair it was hard to tell, with you spruiking for Biden and his far left ideology in every third post.

“Biden and his hard left ideology” ? This is genuinely the funniest thing I’ve read in years. Thanks.

You were joking right?

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

You think a potential Democratic Senate will impeach him? I can already see what will happen if he’ll win. The Democrats will get plastered for aiding and abetting the same way the Republicans have the last 4 years. I suppose it’s different this time round though, and the Dems really would be. ***Whereas the Republicans were justified cos Donald was on the level***

Exactly. I agree with you that the Dems probably wouldnt impeach him, but my concern is when it breaks out of the political sphere. IMO the US is literally on the precipice of outright domestic war.If a democratic senate turned a blind eye to obvious and outright corruption, I think its over and the public confidence in US institutions is done and God knows what would happen.

Could turn out to be a complete fabrication, in which case other people are in a world of trouble including Guiliani. Some of the claims by Guiliani though (signed receipt, Hunter Biden & his lawyers asking for his hard drive back, proof of ownership on the drive) seem pretty compelling.

Incredible times. Imagine a world in which in a contest between two people, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon turns out to be the least corrupt/dishonest. A long way before that is the case yet.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

You think a potential Democratic Senate will impeach him? I can already see what will happen if he’ll win. The Democrats will get plastered for aiding and abetting the same way the Republicans have the last 4 years. I suppose it’s different this time round though, and the Dems really would be. ***Whereas the Republicans were justified cos Donald was on the level***


Exactly. I agree with you that the Dems probably wouldnt impeach him, but my concern is when it breaks out of the political sphere. IMO the US is literally on the precipice of outright domestic war.***If a democratic senate turned a blind eye to obvious and outright corruption,*** I think its over and the public confidence in US institutions is done and God knows what would happen.

Could turn out to be a complete fabrication, in which case other people are in a world of trouble including Guiliani. Some of the claims by Guiliani though (signed receipt, Hunter Biden & his lawyers asking for his hard drive back, proof of ownership on the drive) seem pretty compelling.

Incredible times. Imagine a world in which in a contest between two people, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon turns out to be the least corrupt/dishonest. A long way before that is the case yet.

Couldn’t be any worse than the last 4 years.

 

[Tiger5150]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

You think a potential Democratic Senate will impeach him? I can already see what will happen if he’ll win. The Democrats will get plastered for aiding and abetting the same way the Republicans have the last 4 years. I suppose it’s different this time round though, and the Dems really would be. ***Whereas the Republicans were justified cos Donald was on the level***


Exactly. I agree with you that the Dems probably wouldnt impeach him, but my concern is when it breaks out of the political sphere. IMO the US is literally on the precipice of outright domestic war.***If a democratic senate turned a blind eye to obvious and outright corruption,*** I think its over and the public confidence in US institutions is done and God knows what would happen.

Could turn out to be a complete fabrication, in which case other people are in a world of trouble including Guiliani. Some of the claims by Guiliani though (signed receipt, Hunter Biden & his lawyers asking for his hard drive back, proof of ownership on the drive) seem pretty compelling.

Incredible times. Imagine a world in which in a contest between two people, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon turns out to be the least corrupt/dishonest. A long way before that is the case yet.

Couldn’t be any worse than the last 4 years.

Seriously? What corruption has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon been proven of on this level?

EDIT: Im sure Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is corrupt/dodgy. You dont make billions in real estate over 50years with a clean skin, but the things Biden is being accused of is whilst he was VP. Im not aware of any proven or even alledged corruption during Trumps term?

 

[The_Return]

As things are developing overnight in America in regard to FB and Twitter censoring and blocking Bidens alleged corruption and criminal acts in recent years it will be interesting to see if the judiciary committee get an honest answer to the questions that will be asked of them...

for example...Why was Trumps Russian collution all over social networks and yet they block Biden and his sons dealings with China and the Ukraine..?? dare I say it looks like Biden may have to answer corruption claims...19 days out from the election...
Im not an expert by no means but it appears there are questions that have to be answered...

I haven't even looked into it, but it is almost certainly disinformation that they first post elsewhere and then seek to legitimise through a Murdoch publication or outlet, which fits the pattern.

On what basis do you say it is disinformation? The story may well prove to be bollocks, but to suppress it on the basis that it *may* turn out to be bollocks is setting a whole new standard that they haven't applied before.

i.e Twitter and facebook and all big media outlets were happy to circulate this rubbish:

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyond-buzzfeed-the-10-worst-most-embarrassing-u-s-media-failures-on-the-trumprussia-story/


This is actually bigger than the story IMO (the story has a lot of questions about it). The fact that Twitter and FB squashed this is disgraceful and flat out Orwellian. Twitter gave the reason that it was because the information was released anauthorised. Did Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon authorise his tax returns being publicised? What about the flat out lies regarding the Steele dossier which were publicised?

This is dangerous.

And anyone who criticised the AFP raids on Australian journalists (which I did) for stories based on unauthorised information, but defends this, is being a hypocrite.


Defends which part?

i.e. defends suppression of a story on the basis of it being based on 'unauthorised information'.


Ah ok. Ive said it too many times already but this is straight out of 1984. TBH Ive been seeing parallels for months but this is not even hiding the ball.

I see that Jack Dorsey has been subpeonaed to face the US Senate.


Anyone with any doubts about this, go and have a look at the "front page" online of the NY Times or Washington Post newspapers.
https://www.nytimes.com/
https://www.washingtonpost.com

These reports released today that "potentially" prove that Joe Biden and his family have been totally corrupt and taken millions. They would at a minimum prove that Biden lied about involvement regarding Burisma. It is "potentially" a MASSIVE story that would end a presidency. Neither paper reports on it. Both papers have a small article regarding the noise about Twitter "regarding an article about Hunter Biden".


Actually I backtrack a bit on that.....SMH isnt reporting it and neither is News.com.au (same stable as NYPost). Weird. Maybe Im overstating it, but I think its potentially Watergate levels of history. Maybe someone knows more.

I think you are overstating it.


You think that if these emails are real, it doesnt end either Bidens candidacy or his Presidency?

First he wasn’t going to be the nominee, then the Dems were going to replace him. Then he wasn’t going to debate. Then it was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon who cut and run from debating. I’ve lost count how many times he’s been underestimated.


Thats not the question I asked, do you think that if these emails are found to be real, it wouldnt either end his campaign or his presidency?

If they are proven, whose going to prove them, and will it be before November 3rd?


Well the FBI have the hard drive (same FBI who spied on Trumps campaign mind you). I think you are right that it may not be proven right prior to the election, which is why I said his presidency. If it is proven he has taken Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian money or even if it is shown he lied about helping his son in Burisma, surely he is impeached (successsfully).

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was impeached for asking the Ukrainian President in a phone call to "look into what the the Bidens have been up to". I always thought it was weird that at the same time Biden was openly bragging about threatening to withhold US grants unless they sacked the prosecutor who was investigating his sons company.

You think a potential Democratic Senate will impeach him? I can already see what will happen if he’ll win. The Democrats will get plastered for aiding and abetting the same way the Republicans have the last 4 years. I suppose it’s different this time round though, and the Dems really would be. ***Whereas the Republicans were justified cos Donald was on the level***


Exactly. I agree with you that the Dems probably wouldnt impeach him, but my concern is when it breaks out of the political sphere. IMO the US is literally on the precipice of outright domestic war.***If a democratic senate turned a blind eye to obvious and outright corruption,*** I think its over and the public confidence in US institutions is done and God knows what would happen.

Could turn out to be a complete fabrication, in which case other people are in a world of trouble including Guiliani. Some of the claims by Guiliani though (signed receipt, Hunter Biden & his lawyers asking for his hard drive back, proof of ownership on the drive) seem pretty compelling.

Incredible times. Imagine a world in which in a contest between two people, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon turns out to be the least corrupt/dishonest. A long way before that is the case yet.

Couldn’t be any worse than the last 4 years.


Seriously? What corruption has Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon been proven of on this level?

Pretty much all the left could come up with in 4 years =

**Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets 2 scoops of ice cream, everyone else gets 1**
https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon-time-magazine-ice-cream/index.html

 

[Tim Sheens]

There is corruption going on in our own backyard infiltrating the highest levels of NSW parliament and you are all arguing about who a presidential candidates son hangs out with. No wonder we get the government's we deserve in this country...

Yep, who knows whether a head will fall, though I expectthe party to stand by Gladys in the short term, then remove her as leader. Good to see the AFP launching an investigation into that shoddy $30 odd million federal government land deal, though need a national ICAC as well to root out the rot, as a couple of ministers probably should have resigned long ago.