Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

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@Balmain Bobby said:
Talk about pot/kettle… Someone calls you out on your many wild claims and it gets too hard. Still waiting for those examples of ALP vote rigging. You've called me all sorts of things, I've only commented on your postings but ask around - I'm happy to debate issues with reasonable people who can back up their claims. You just throw bombs and then when you called on them you hide behind this sort of thing.
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No, your a serial baiter, and use inciteful distortion of language, such as Rant instead of post, to catch a victim.
You want an example of vote rigging, try Dela Bosco rigging the votes to get Belinda Neale a seat.
He was at every TWU members B-B-Q's trying to gain support, I went to them so I know exactly what went on.

What you refer to is not vote rigging, it is an attempt at branch stacking and a fairly minor one. I live in the area and it certainly wasn't a traditional branch stack - there were no mass importation of ethnic groups for instance - and Andrews kept her seat in the end anyway.

Look you seem to be personally offended by people who argue against your viewpoint. You've made it personal when it didn't need to be. Serial bater? Inciteful distortion? I'm more than happy to stand by my record on this forum. I didn't accuse you have being a banned poster no more than you accused me of running dual accounts. You've had a crack at me not financially supporting the forum (yes okay I should but I've never got around to it but it's a pretty low blow), of being some shadowy anonymous figure (I've met members of this forum before and I really don't care who knows what about me but at the end of the day surely it's my choice?) and objected to some reasonable requests by me for you to substantiate claims you make and source material you take from third party sites. How that constitutes an attack on you I'm still baffled by.

Anyway if you think as poorly of me as indicated by your posts in the last couple of pages that's your business. I've had many good debates with guys like Happy, Hammertime, Stryker, Citizen Tiger etc… all of whom have an extremely different POV from me and I've not had any of these issues. These guys back up their posts with facts/sources/knowledge and I respect their views even though I find some of them personally objectionable (and vice versa I'm sure). We've had many good debates over these pages and I've had to concede that many of their points have been correct (much as it pains me) and every now and then I'm able to convince them of something I say. Nobody has ever taken it personally - they rib me all the time but I've never taken it as a personal attack and outside this thread I'm normally agreeing with them. I have not, to my knowledge, made any personal attack on you. Yep I've made some comments on the material you've posted - it's a forum after all. If someone posts crap I'll call them on it. On the other hand you've called me an extreme socialist (or something like that), a serial baiter, a keyboard warrior, made personal comments on my support for the forum, accused me of maintaining a deliberate anonymity, and in general attacked me not my posts.
 
Hey Yoss, there is nothing on this earth as empty as a closed mind.

You may also remember a report on ACA a few years ago in a disputed seat, where it was found Union members had registered hundreds of votes from ficticious people living on empty blocks of ground.

Look you seem to be personally offended by people who argue against your viewpoint. You've made it personal when it didn't need to be.

May I remind you that I didn't know you from Adam until you called my post Dribble, and a Rant. In most peoples language, that is asking for an arguement, and is definately insulting. But on line is different, people do get away with things they would never dare say to my face in the real world. I actually feel sorry for you being so indoctrinated into the labor movement, which renders most as incapable of free thought.

Every debate has a few falir up's, it's all in the thrust and parry, and I never bear a grudge, and I never take a backward step, just the way it is.

I don't think poorly of you Mate, but I have seen plenty who turn normal language into something derogatory, in order to gain a debating advantage. You support the Tigers so you aint all bad eh. :mrgreen:
 
This year the budget will be back to surplus ,in doing so Wayne Swan will go down in history as one of the most prudent treasurers in Australia's history.

Wow, didn't know we had a comedy writer on staff.
 
@Balmain Bobby said:
This year the budget will be back to surplus ,in doing so Wayne Swan will go down in history as one of the most prudent treasurers in Australia's history.

Wow, didn't know we had a comedy writer on staff.

I agree bobby!! It's laughable when people say this… because

1) Swan **inherited** a large surplus and cash reserves
2) He now has the best terms of trade that Australia has ever had
3) He has means tested every existing policy and introduced new taxes
4) All deficit spending was concentrated in the last few years and has mostly ended, it should return budget to normal territory.
5) He is going to use creative accounting to get himself over the line, and I 'm pretty sure the NBN will be off balance sheet.
6) It is expected to be around 1bn surplus, reverting to deficit the year after because swanny will use creative accounting and pushing cash flows into the next year

**7) A SURPLUS DOES NOT REMOVE OUR DEBT!!! ESPECIALLY A SMALL ONE THAT WILL BE COUNTERED THE YEAR AFTER!!**

He is leaving one mighty mess for the Liberals to clean up yet again.

Arrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhh!!! :deadhorse: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick:
 
Lol! Phony Tony! Unless it's written down don't believe anything I say!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5ljcri6Nk&feature=related
 
Bob Brown to resign from the Senate… Christine Milne new Greens leader

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-13/bob-brown-resigns-as-greens-leader/3948496
 
Comfortable in his humiliating sodomy of the nation and its coffers Bob Brown moves on to go bushwalking.

Sporting shooters, your time is now
 
Really excited to hear the news that the most destructive roadblock in Australian politics has called it a day.

Bob Brown wasnt just a nuisance, he was an insane lunatic. He was a moron who suffered from delusions of grandeur. Finally we have got rid of this clown. Shame Tasmanians didnt wake up to them selves earlier but you cant blame them….they are Tasmanians.
 
@smeghead said:
Comfortable in his humiliating sodomy of the nation and its coffers Bob Brown moves on to go bushwalking.

Sporting shooters, your time is now

And if he stands still for long enough Loggers start your engines :wink:
 
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