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I watched that live. Julie Bishop was calling the government out over Slipper's texts so Gillard cut them to pieces by pointing out various instances of Tony Abbott being a sexist jerkoff and also reminded them that it was actually the coalition that pre-selected him for election every election since 1984 not them and that Abbott is actually one of Slipper's mates and even attended his wedding. Was probably Julia's best moment as PM hahaha.
 
@AmericanHistoryX said:
no carbon tax
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PN66IBoPs - Tony Abbott says carbon tax is the right thing to do pre election

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfhn6YyJdQY - Tony Abbott says NO to carbon tax post election

Just typical of all politicians. Gillard is the absolute inverse. Said no to carbon tax pre election and yes post. They're as bad as each other. I will vote for Gillard simply because I think Tony Abbott is a frightening sociopathic pro-life catholic while Gillard is just a run of the mill jerkoff politician.
 
@Snowy said:
The Prime Minister is a liar!

Tony Abbott is a liar ….. He has lied more recently , his lies served to only to cause alarm amongst the community .

When asked about 15% rise in the cost of electricity Tony Abbott said that it was , all a result of the Carbon price .

The power companies , later confirmed that the rise was in no part due to carbon pricing .. It was due to the need to renew infrastructure which had reached the end of its working life

TONY ABBOTT KNOWING LIED , and refused to rescind his lies after the facts were presented to him
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@MacDougall said:
@AmericanHistoryX said:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12PN66IBoPs

Was Tony Abbott lying then or is he lying now ?

So basically he would have done exactly the same thing as this govt ….
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Yes. Unfortunately this is how politics works. No matter what they really believe, they will stand against almost everything the government stands for and use spin and rhetoric to justify. The opposition are supposed to oppose and that they do. It's not really his fault, just funny.

Really though one to one, Gillard is a much better human being than Tony Abbott. Party to party they are as awful as each other. In my electorate we have a fantastic labor member so I will vote for her but I really don't give a toss about either party.
 
@Centaur said:
Yawn.

Tony sucks.

But Julia sucks more.

No pun intended…

No way man, Tony is a much worse person. He is a chauvinistic, elitist, pro-life, catholic school boy, silver spoon fed lying politician. From where I stand Gillard is just a run of the mill elitist lying politician. They are incomparable. Abbott will be our GWB. He is the worst candidate to ever run for parliament.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. They are all friends playing a game and it doesn't matter who is in office, the agenda of the backroom players of both parties are in line with one another and what happens in the public eye is just a pantomime designed to imitate real politics. If there really was politics then Tony Abbott would have NEVER been the opposition leader. He is an absolute muppet.
 
@Snowy said:
The Prime Minister is a liar!

So was the one before her and the one before him and the one before that and so on….. I'm not a big fan of Gillard, but I'm always bemused as to why she is the ONLY PM who is mercilessly branded a liar when so many others before her have done exactly the same, starting with Pig Iron Bob back in the 1950s!
 
It's quite obviously because she's a woman and people feel comfortable insulting her because of her sex.

The way she has been treated by the media, the opposition and the voters of Australia has been quite frankly utterly pathetic. Even if in most cases it is just subconscious chauvinism.

At the end of the day though it is the media influence over those among us who I will politely term "loud and dumb."
 
Every Prime Minister (and to a lesser extent, other pollies,) are targeted for their mannerisms or their appearance.

Sexist comments aside of course, Gillard is fair game just like the everyone before her for the run-of-the-mill insults that pollies cop.
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
Every Prime Minister (and to a lesser extent, other pollies,) are targeted for their mannerisms or their appearance.

Sexist comments aside of course, Gillard is fair game just like the everyone before her for the run-of-the-mill insults that pollies cop.

It has been taken to new a low for Julia Gillard:
http://annesummers.com.au/speeches/her- … k-r-rated/
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@MacDougall said:
@Centaur said:
Yawn.

Tony sucks.

But Julia sucks more.

No pun intended…

No way man, Tony is a much worse person. He is a chauvinistic, elitist, pro-life, catholic school boy, silver spoon fed lying politician. From where I stand Gillard is just a run of the mill elitist lying politician. They are incomparable. Abbott will be our GWB. He is the worst candidate to ever run for parliament.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. They are all friends playing a game and it doesn't matter who is in office, the agenda of the backroom players of both parties are in line with one another and what happens in the public eye is just a pantomime designed to imitate real politics. If there really was politics then Tony Abbott would have NEVER been the opposition leader. He is an absolute muppet.

That's a rant that's just impossible to piece together. Don't think Abbott was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, don't think he's elitist and can't quote figure how it's a crime to be a Catholic, unless of course you're a Protestant who holds anachronistic values. You should familiarise yourself with his background, particularly the part where he effected a second mortgage to cover the kids school fees. Play the man and not the ball, this is the Labor way.

It's academic in any case, the writings on the wall for this inept, mismanaged Government. The vitriol that's falling out of the mouth of every female Labor politician is the handiwork of Gillard's imported spin doctor and its a strategy that's backfiring. The great tragedy of course is that we'll endure countless billions more in unnecessary expenditure and interest payments before we see Labor Go
 
@MacDougall said:
**It's quite obviously because she's a woman and people feel comfortable insulting her because of her sex.**

The way she has been treated by the media, the opposition and the voters of Australia has been quite frankly utterly pathetic. Even if in most cases it is just subconscious chauvinism.

At the end of the day though it is the media influence over those among us who I will politely term "loud and dumb."

I have often wondered if this was the case, Mac, or was it simply because of the way she got into the position in the first place - I don't think people liked seeing old Kevvy being stabbed in the back. If you are correct though, it's a really sad indictment on society that this hateful kind of attitude towards women is still taking place, well into the 21st Century. One would think we might have evolved since the Victorian age, or at least since the Neanderthal era, but come to think of it, after hearing some of the tripe that the supposedly civilised US Republican candidates are dishing out lately, the world actually looks like becoming a lot worse for women. God help the American women if that idiot Romney is elected President! Seriously, no leader of the free world should be called Mitt :laughing: That's just wrong!
 
@Citizen Tiger said:
@MacDougall said:
@Centaur said:
Yawn.

Tony sucks.

But Julia sucks more.

No pun intended…

No way man, Tony is a much worse person. He is a chauvinistic, elitist, pro-life, catholic school boy, silver spoon fed lying politician. From where I stand Gillard is just a run of the mill elitist lying politician. They are incomparable. Abbott will be our GWB. He is the worst candidate to ever run for parliament.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. They are all friends playing a game and it doesn't matter who is in office, the agenda of the backroom players of both parties are in line with one another and what happens in the public eye is just a pantomime designed to imitate real politics. If there really was politics then Tony Abbott would have NEVER been the opposition leader. He is an absolute muppet.

That's a rant that's just impossible to piece together. Don't think Abbott was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, don't think he's elitist and can't quote figure how it's a crime to be a Catholic, unless of course you're a Protestant who holds anachronistic values. You should familiarise yourself with his background, particularly the part where he effected a second mortgage to cover the kids school fees. Play the man and not the ball, this is the Labor way.

It's academic in any case, the writings on the wall for this inept, mismanaged Government. The vitriol that's falling out of the mouth of every female Labor politician is the handiwork of Gillard's imported spin doctor and its a strategy that's backfiring. The great tragedy of course is that we'll endure countless billions more in unnecessary expenditure and interest payments before we see Labor Go

I'm not going to descend into an argument with anybody over politics. It's pointless and ultimately only infuriates people. If I'm wrong about Tony Abbott so be it. I don't like his face.
 
In 2013 America should be represented by an environmentalist and progressive government and NONE of the major parties provide that, and neither do the greens. They may be environmentalist but they are certainly not progressive. The same as here. We are stuck in old ways and we just need to evolve big time.
 
@MacDougall said:
@Citizen Tiger said:
@MacDougall said:
@Centaur said:
Yawn.

Tony sucks.

But Julia sucks more.

No pun intended…

No way man, Tony is a much worse person. He is a chauvinistic, elitist, pro-life, catholic school boy, silver spoon fed lying politician. From where I stand Gillard is just a run of the mill elitist lying politician. They are incomparable. Abbott will be our GWB. He is the worst candidate to ever run for parliament.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter. They are all friends playing a game and it doesn't matter who is in office, the agenda of the backroom players of both parties are in line with one another and what happens in the public eye is just a pantomime designed to imitate real politics. If there really was politics then Tony Abbott would have NEVER been the opposition leader. He is an absolute muppet.

That's a rant that's just impossible to piece together. Don't think Abbott was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, don't think he's elitist and can't quote figure how it's a crime to be a Catholic, unless of course you're a Protestant who holds anachronistic values. You should familiarise yourself with his background, particularly the part where he effected a second mortgage to cover the kids school fees. Play the man and not the ball, this is the Labor way.

It's academic in any case, the writings on the wall for this inept, mismanaged Government. The vitriol that's falling out of the mouth of every female Labor politician is the handiwork of Gillard's imported spin doctor and its a strategy that's backfiring. The great tragedy of course is that we'll endure countless billions more in unnecessary expenditure and interest payments before we see Labor Go

I'm not going to descend into an argument with anybody over politics. It's pointless and ultimately only infuriates people. If I'm wrong about Tony Abbott so be it. I don't like his face.

Well why post inaccurate, emotional, bigoted and hateful misinformation? You hate Catholics, that's clear. You believe Abbott is a privileged elitist, that's clear. You believe he was born into wealth, that's clear. You're prepared to publish this nonsense, yet not prepared to support or defend it . Res ipsa loquitor
 
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