Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Swordy]

After reading some of the news in America and how some states and cities are compounding and being destroyed by destructive thugs,I dare say whoever is the peoples elect,irrespective either Biden or Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon,there will be a huge mess to clean and a country to sort out....
I still cant believe how freely damage is done to established icons such as a statue of C.Columbus,torn down after being there for years,what does it prove by tearing it down,history is there for all to see,destruction only creates anymosity...

Statues are emblematic of the institutions that they are seeking to tear down to rebuild something else in their place.

Statues are also a reminder of the past that we shouldn't forget. What I mean is, you don't tear down a statue because we no longer agree with the way that person conducted themselves or contributed to society. You keep it somewhere, in a prominent place as a reminder of the evils of the past. A bit like Adolf Hitler. You don't keep his statue in place, but you relocate or replace it with something that is a reminder.

If you don't remember the past, you are condemned to make the same mistakes int he future.

 

[Tiger5150]

After reading some of the news in America and how some states and cities are compounding and being destroyed by destructive thugs,I dare say whoever is the peoples elect,irrespective either Biden or Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon,there will be a huge mess to clean and a country to sort out....
I still cant believe how freely damage is done to established icons such as a statue of C.Columbus,torn down after being there for years,what does it prove by tearing it down,history is there for all to see,destruction only creates anymosity...

Statues are emblematic of the institutions that they are seeking to tear down to rebuild something else in their place.

Statues are also a reminder of the past that we shouldn't forget. What I mean is, you don't tear down a statue because we no longer agree with the way that person conducted themselves or contributed to society. You keep it somewhere, in a prominent place as a reminder of the evils of the past. A bit like Adolf Hitler. You don't keep his statue in place, but you relocate or replace it with something that is a reminder.

If you don't remember the past, you are condemned to make the same mistakes int he future.

Im with you mate, but these guys think differently and think they think for everyone else.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Found this interesting. For once it isn’t a poll

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12758610

 

[Papacito]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

 

[Papacito]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Agree she should probably stand down but can only imagine some on here if it was a member of the left, it would be a Murdoch conspiracy or perhaps blamed on Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon ...

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

As James Murdoch recently said, he walked away from the family media empire because it legitimises disinformation and obscures facts.

 

[OzLuke]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

absolute worst premier we've had in a long, long time in my opinion....and we've had some duds

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Gladys has been a pretty good premier she just messed up with the wrong relationship. Hopefully what all this stops is this stadium redevelopments for awhile
Kristina Kenneally the worst premier by far and the biggest loss in any election too and yes we have had some duds.

 

[Papacito]

Gladys has been a pretty good premier she just messed up with the wrong relationship. Hopefully what all this stops is this stadium redevelopments for awhile
Kristina Kenneally the worst premier by far and the biggest loss in any election too and yes we have had some duds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSg5vHzlxxc

 

[Tim Sheens]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

To add to the @GNR4LIFE post and your correlation with the Murdoch press and just how destructive they are to not only Australian politics, but society as a whole as well, one only needs to look at the current coverage of Annastacia compared to Gladys. Worse still was the coverage of Gillard, investigating 17 year's prior relationship and the ditch the witch crap was nothing short of disgusting.

Whilst she probably needs to resign, I truly feel a little sorry for the premier as it wouldn’t be easy to conduct a relationship in her situation, or as per my non-political wife and child that took notice of her when Covid arrived, she looks like a witch.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I care little about the relationship, or the fact it was with a married man. It's looked down upon, but certainly not in the interest of the public to know. The relationship becomes the public interest when their offices are misused to conduct, or be complicit in, business for personal gain.

It's a Murdoch misdirection to focus on the relationship to obfuscate her involvement in Maguires corruption to make frame it as a serious of poor personal choices.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I admire your tenacity and perseverance @formerguest but you’re trying to talk reason with a docile wall, not unlike the one Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said he’d make Mexico pay for...

I ordinarily just reply and then let it go, but not with the utter hypocrisy on display above after highlighting a video of a person that was simply being informed of something of which they were unaware whom immediately accepted that they were wrong.

His responses did though show how easily the simpletons targeted by Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Murdoch and their minions are manipulated to the point that they can even read past the headlines and still be blinded of their brainwashing. Another huge problem that comes from that development, is that others that are generally much more discerning become a bi-product catch when fooled by the amplified broadcast of such by multiple smaller entities that gives the rhetoric false legitimacy and a larger net.

It works well for them though, with three word slogans or similar phrases peddling lies to a vulnerable audience and that's why they keep doing it.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1315802425488478208

 

[Tiger5150]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

To add to the @GNR4LIFE post and your correlation with the Murdoch press and just how destructive they are to not only Australian politics, but society as a whole as well, one only needs to look at the current coverage of Annastacia compared to Gladys. Worse still was the coverage of Gillard, investigating 17 year's prior relationship and the ditch the witch crap was nothing short of disgusting.

Serious question FG, I dont not necessarily disagree with you regarding the Murdoch press (they give the conservatives an easier ride), but do you not see the same but mirror reverse in the US?

 

[The_Return]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

To add to the @GNR4LIFE post and your correlation with the Murdoch press and just how destructive they are to not only Australian politics, but society as a whole as well, one only needs to look at the current coverage of Annastacia compared to Gladys. Worse still was the coverage of Gillard, investigating 17 year's prior relationship and the ditch the witch crap was nothing short of disgusting.

Whilst she probably needs to resign, I truly feel a little sorry for the premier as it wouldn’t be easy to conduct a relationship in her situation, or as per my non-political wife and child that took notice of her when Covid arrived, **she looks like a witch.**

I dont know about a witch, this on the other hand...


 

[Tiger5150]

I admire your tenacity and perseverance @formerguest but you’re trying to talk reason with a docile wall, not unlike the one Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said he’d make Mexico pay for...

I ordinarily just reply and then let it go, but not with the utter hypocrisy on display above after highlighting a video of a person that was simply being informed of something of which they were unaware whom immediately accepted that they were wrong.

His responses did though show how easily the simpletons targeted by Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Murdoch and their minions are manipulated to the point that they can even read past the headlines and still be blinded of their brainwashing. Another huge problem that comes from that development, is that others that are generally much more discerning become a bi-product catch when fooled by the amplified broadcast of such by multiple smaller entities that gives the rhetoric false legitimacy and a larger net.

It works well for them though, with three word slogans or similar phrases peddling lies to a vulnerable audience and that's why they keep doing it.

FG I am not a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fan, but regardless you and I have butted heads regularly in this thread. This post of yours prompted me to jump in again. Do you not read what you post here that all Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporters are reduced to merely brain dead that have been manipulated and are some sort of zombies dancing to somebodies (Fox?) tune, and think that it is exactly reflected on the left?

It seriously is. Supporters of BOTH sides are constantly lying and being fed/led complete rubbish and when you or anyone else says something like what you have said about the "simpletons" (Deplorables anyone?) it makes me cringe and think you are seriously missing the point.

The US is more divided today socially today than since the civil war, I'd suggest and both sides think the other are brain dead morons who cant think for themselves and "why cant they see what I see?!?!?!".

The reason is they DONT see what you see. You dont see what they see. I dont see what you see. YOu dont see what I see and this is intentional. Most of our news is now delivered online, a lot through social media and a lot through algorithm gated outlets such as Youtube. These algorithms are AI that learns and feeds you what YOU want to see based on your previous viewing history and actions and it ONLY feeds you your side of the story. Same for me, same for everyone. As a result we all are in a large part living in our own truman show and if you have an interest in politics and lean left, you will be fed the left story. Same for the right.

 

[The_Return]

Gladys Berejiklian has to stand down as NSW Premier.

ICAC has shown that she knew about serious corruption, yet turned a complete blind eye to it.

At best, she should stand down immediately. At worst, she should face court.

She acknowledged Maguire stood to gain commission from a development. She was active complicit by directing Maguire to not fill her in on details in order to have plausible deniability.

O'Farrell went over a 3K bottle of red, she has to go.

The Murdochracy are reporting heavily on the relationship angle in order to move away from the details of the corruption. Like when Jordan Shanks released that half hour smackdown video on Barilaro, all the press took from that was that Shanks openly declared he rooted in all the guesthouses on Barilaro's property that he rented on AirBNB, not the depth of corruption Barilaro has engaged in.

Funny how certain journalists are engaging in selective feminism here too, happy to paint Gladys as this poor misled woman by the horrible boyfriend, implying that she let her heart rule her head and it was a mistake. Miss me with that garbage, she holds the highest position of power in the state, she should have reported it and ended her relationship with him immediately and declared everything that had happened.

Wendy Harmer summed it up best.

The fact that we have an explosive and very blatant corruption case and it does not rate a mention on the front page of Murdoch's main news site is a sad sign of the times.

To add to the @GNR4LIFE post and your correlation with the Murdoch press and just how destructive they are to not only Australian politics, but society as a whole as well, one only needs to look at the current coverage of Annastacia compared to Gladys. Worse still was the coverage of Gillard, investigating 17 year's prior relationship and the ditch the witch crap was nothing short of disgusting.

Whilst she probably needs to resign, I truly feel a little sorry for the premier as it wouldn’t be easy to conduct a relationship in her situation, or as per my non-political wife and child that took notice of her when Covid arrived, she looks like a witch.

Pretty much sounds like the entire far left main stream media propaganda arm in the US and around the world, shilling for all things Biden and Orange man bad.

Amazing how ones political views can cause so much cognitive dissonance.

 

[The_Return]

I admire your tenacity and perseverance @formerguest but you’re trying to talk reason with a docile wall, not unlike the one Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said he’d make Mexico pay for...

Id love formerguest to ever answer a question or give a rebuttal to anything posted, rather then ignore and move on, seems like all the far left can do at this point, fling mud and move on to slinging more mud ignoring that they were just proven wrong three points ago. Keep muddying the waters, the dumbed down wont notice. You sure didn't.