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@jadtiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250707) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250703) said:
Looking at the energy and support at a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon rally compared to the two men and a dog at a Biden gathering, how can Biden be any chance unless its rigged, which given the obvious media bias and tech censorship it may well be
It's true, there are no Biden supporters, just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters, who all hate him because that's what the media, social media, and all manner of corrupted institutions have conditioned them to do
I'm not even entirely sure Biden will make it to election day, its going to be hard to bottle up all of the Hunter stuff and the corruption spill over onto JoJo
It's going to be interesting for sure and I fear the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters will be encouraged to riot if and when he wins another 4 years

You do realise intelligent people dont congregate in big groups because of covid?

No I didn't realise that
 
@Nelson said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250718) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250703) said:
It's true, there are no Biden supporters, just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters, who all hate him because that's what the media, social media, and all manner of corrupted institutions have conditioned them to do

It's not a good way to look at the world to think that everyone who doesn't share your viewpoint is an idiot sheep.

Not my conclusion at all, but appreciate the irony as a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporter who by extension is viewed as an idiot by those who aren't fans
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250703) said:
Looking at the energy and support at a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon rally compared to the two men and a dog at a Biden gathering, how can Biden be any chance unless its rigged, which given the obvious media bias and tech censorship it may well be
It's true, there are no Biden supporters, just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters, who all hate him because that's what the media, social media, and all manner of corrupted institutions have conditioned them to do
I'm not even entirely sure Biden will make it to election day, its going to be hard to bottle up all of the Hunter stuff and the corruption spill over onto JoJo
It's going to be interesting for sure and I fear the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters will be encouraged to riot if and when he wins another 4 years

Pretty ignorant post. To think people can’t form their own opinions given the way he bullies people, dog whistles, refuses to take responsibility for anything, cries like a teenage girl on Twitter. It must conditioned. How do we know you haven’t been conditioned to think what you think?

And as far as him not making it to Election Day, what odds would you be willing to give me, cos I will take them.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250734) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250703) said:
Looking at the energy and support at a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon rally compared to the two men and a dog at a Biden gathering, how can Biden be any chance unless its rigged, which given the obvious media bias and tech censorship it may well be
It's true, there are no Biden supporters, just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters, who all hate him because that's what the media, social media, and all manner of corrupted institutions have conditioned them to do
I'm not even entirely sure Biden will make it to election day, its going to be hard to bottle up all of the Hunter stuff and the corruption spill over onto JoJo
It's going to be interesting for sure and I fear the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters will be encouraged to riot if and when he wins another 4 years

Pretty ignorant post. To think people can’t form their own opinions given the way he bullies people, dog whistles, refuses to take responsibility for anything, cries like a teenage girl on Twitter. It must conditioned. How do we know you haven’t been conditioned to think what you think?

And as far as him not making it to Election Day, what odds would you be willing to give me, cos I will take them.

True, we're all likely to a degree products of what we consume

It's my opinion, doesn't make it ignorant, you just don't agree with it and that's fine. Different opinions should be allowed and encouraged

I'm not framing a market on a JoJo dropout, but I still wouldn't be surprised

Let's see what happens @GNR4LIFE at least we have the Tiges in common so there's always that
 
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250744) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250734) said:
@Curly_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250703) said:
Looking at the energy and support at a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon rally compared to the two men and a dog at a Biden gathering, how can Biden be any chance unless its rigged, which given the obvious media bias and tech censorship it may well be
It's true, there are no Biden supporters, just Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters, who all hate him because that's what the media, social media, and all manner of corrupted institutions have conditioned them to do
I'm not even entirely sure Biden will make it to election day, its going to be hard to bottle up all of the Hunter stuff and the corruption spill over onto JoJo
It's going to be interesting for sure and I fear the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon haters will be encouraged to riot if and when he wins another 4 years

Pretty ignorant post. To think people can’t form their own opinions given the way he bullies people, dog whistles, refuses to take responsibility for anything, cries like a teenage girl on Twitter. It must conditioned. How do we know you haven’t been conditioned to think what you think?

And as far as him not making it to Election Day, what odds would you be willing to give me, cos I will take them.

True, we're all likely to a degree products of what we consume

It's my opinion, doesn't make it ignorant, you just don't agree with it and that's fine. Different opinions should be allowed and encouraged

I'm not framing a market on a JoJo dropout, but I still wouldn't be surprised

Let's see what happens @GNR4LIFE at least we have the Tiges in common so there's always that

I’m fine with differing opinions. What I don’t like is when someone claims my opinions are conditioned, and I didn’t form them on my own. It’s like assuming every Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporter is a racist.
 
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

The only direct response the Biden camp has said was “there is no official record of Joe meeting ukrainian oligarch dude” to which they later added “they may have met unofficially but it would have been cursory”
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250749) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.


Then they are crazy. The only reason the story has legs is because they havent cut the legs off by saying "the emails are fake, not my laptop". Why wouldnt you crush it like that?

I have been sceptical of the story from day 1 because the whole "I dropped of my incriminating laptop full of incriminating emails, documetns and photos...then forgot it" story is hard to believe, but I am starting to believe there may be truth to it based on Bidens refusal to directly refute it, the supposed receipt signed by Hunter, the supposed email from Hunter and his legals asking for it back and the supposed corroboration by others on the email trail.

GNR, if it was proven that these emails are real, do you think its an important story/issue?
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250751) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250749) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.


Then they are crazy. The only reason the story has legs is because they havent cut the legs off by saying "the emails are fake, not my laptop". Why wouldnt you crush it like that?

I have been sceptical of the story from day 1 because the whole "I dropped of my incriminating laptop full of incriminating emails, documetns and photos...then forgot it" story is hard to believe, but I am starting to believe there may be truth to it based on Bidens refusal to directly refute it, the supposed receipt signed by Hunter, the supposed email from Hunter and his legals asking for it back and the supposed corroboration by others on the email trail.

GNR, if it was proven that these emails are real, do you think its an important story/issue?

I suspect that the Biden camp may have decided not to give the story any oxygen.

It only seems to be the Murdoch press running it with it. Everyone else appears to be giving it a pretty wide berth. It could be that the entire USA press corp (ex Murdoch) are actively working to support Biden against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but I think the more likely explanation is that they all think the story is a bit dodgy

My take on the Biden spokesperson was that she responded to the assertion, "Nobody has proved that these emails are inauthentic" as "Yes that's fair", as meaning that his statement is a true one. After that I can't hear what else she was trying to say because he just starts talking over the top of her again.

As regards Hunter Biden's silence, isn't he in rehab at the moment?
 
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250768) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250751) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250749) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.


Then they are crazy. The only reason the story has legs is because they havent cut the legs off by saying "the emails are fake, not my laptop". Why wouldnt you crush it like that?

I have been sceptical of the story from day 1 because the whole "I dropped of my incriminating laptop full of incriminating emails, documetns and photos...then forgot it" story is hard to believe, but I am starting to believe there may be truth to it based on Bidens refusal to directly refute it, the supposed receipt signed by Hunter, the supposed email from Hunter and his legals asking for it back and the supposed corroboration by others on the email trail.

GNR, if it was proven that these emails are real, do you think its an important story/issue?

I suspect that the Biden camp may have decided not to give the story any oxygen.

It only seems to be the Murdoch press running it with it. Everyone else appears to be giving it a pretty wide berth. It could be that the entire USA press corp (ex Murdoch) are actively working to support Biden against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but I think the more likely explanation is that they all think the story is a bit dodgy

My take on the Biden spokesperson was that she responded to the assertion, "Nobody has proved that these emails are inauthentic" as "Yes that's fair", as meaning that his statement is a true one. After that I can't hear what else she was trying to say because he just starts talking over the top of her again.

As regards Hunter Biden's silence, isn't he in rehab at the moment?

I heard it a similar way, though two very important words prior to her being interrupted when going on to Rudy Giuliani and her later are seemingly ignored in the context of this conversation. Firstly, her two words "or not" came immediately after she said inauthentic, which alters the whole dynamic of the sentence and it's interpretation. That she suggested special counsel investigating this matter was a responsible approach soon after goes against that narrative, especially so when in the middle of a disruptive host's questioning, from who's responses, I seriously doubt was even listening to her replies.

So often the story lays in that which they don't say, whereas in this case she covered both, so for mine, it would seem to be either that he didn’t want to listen or was attempting to drown out her answers whatever they may be.
 
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250768) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250751) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250749) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.


Then they are crazy. The only reason the story has legs is because they havent cut the legs off by saying "the emails are fake, not my laptop". Why wouldnt you crush it like that?

I have been sceptical of the story from day 1 because the whole "I dropped of my incriminating laptop full of incriminating emails, documetns and photos...then forgot it" story is hard to believe, but I am starting to believe there may be truth to it based on Bidens refusal to directly refute it, the supposed receipt signed by Hunter, the supposed email from Hunter and his legals asking for it back and the supposed corroboration by others on the email trail.

GNR, if it was proven that these emails are real, do you think its an important story/issue?

I suspect that the Biden camp may have decided not to give the story any oxygen.

It only seems to be the Murdoch press running it with it. Everyone else appears to be giving it a pretty wide berth. It could be that the entire USA press corp (ex Murdoch) are actively working to support Biden against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but I think the more likely explanation is that they all think the story is a bit dodgy

My take on the Biden spokesperson was that she responded to the assertion, "Nobody has proved that these emails are inauthentic" as "Yes that's fair", as meaning that his statement is a true one. After that I can't hear what else she was trying to say because he just starts talking over the top of her again.

As regards Hunter Biden's silence, isn't he in rehab at the moment?


After she says "Yes thats fair" she definitely and clearly says "I dont think anyone is ***saying*** they are inauthentic." Nothing about proving, simple, noone is saying these emails are inauthentic. Cold hard fact that she said that and that no one from the Biden camp has said they are inauthentic.

Even if FG is correct (I dont think he is) in that she says "or not" next, the answer is....why not? If incriminating emails, documents and photos of me were distributed and they were not real or not mine, I would be screaming it from the rooftops that it wasnt mine. I cant believe people are suggesting something else.

With regards to "only Murdoch media are covering it, no one else", its worse than that. EVERY other media outlet, in the absence of a rebuttal from the Bidens, immediately started running stories that it was Russian disinformation, of course prompting the DNI to come out and say that to date, its not.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250796) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250768) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250751) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250749) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250746) said:
@tigger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250737) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250678) said:
If you can sit through a disgraceful interview (I dont watch Fox...I saw a clip of this interview elsewhere) but this is Joe Bidens media spokesperson admitting that the Hunter Biden emails are authentic (skip to 2:40) to minimise watching two people shouting over each other.
https://youtu.be/RJhO1UWbSIc

This interview is a load of nonsense T5150. I reckon the most important part of it, from the interviewer's perspective, is the last line where he gets to say that the Biden campaign has been given equal airtime. He spends the rest of the interview talking over the top of that woman to make sure that nothing she says can have any cut through.

At the 2.40 mark he asks, "Can anyone prove that these emails are inauthentic?" to which she responds that no one can.

So that's it? Because no one can prove that they are false they must be real? The accusers don't have to prove that the documents they are putting forward are genuine, it's the accused that has to prove that they're false.

Have another listen to that interview ( I know it's torture) I'm sure you will agree that Biden's spokesperson does NOT say that the emails are authentic.

Frankly I can't understand why anyone would watch and believe the tripe that Fox serves up.


Its a disgraceful "interview" but her words are "Yes that is fair, I dont think anyone is saying they are inauthentic."

She is saying it response to the "interviewer" say no one has directly said they are inauthentic.

Really? Noone? not even Hunter or Joe Biden?

She has specifically said that the emails are real. This is the whole point. If they are not real, Hunter or Joe just come out and say "They are not real, they are not my emails, that is not my hard drive.". Her response would be, "No Joe/Hunter have already categorically stated that the emails are not real, its not his laptop". Instead she said "No one is saying they are not authentic".

Maybe they feel they don’t have to cos the story does not have enough legs.


Then they are crazy. The only reason the story has legs is because they havent cut the legs off by saying "the emails are fake, not my laptop". Why wouldnt you crush it like that?

I have been sceptical of the story from day 1 because the whole "I dropped of my incriminating laptop full of incriminating emails, documetns and photos...then forgot it" story is hard to believe, but I am starting to believe there may be truth to it based on Bidens refusal to directly refute it, the supposed receipt signed by Hunter, the supposed email from Hunter and his legals asking for it back and the supposed corroboration by others on the email trail.

GNR, if it was proven that these emails are real, do you think its an important story/issue?

I suspect that the Biden camp may have decided not to give the story any oxygen.

It only seems to be the Murdoch press running it with it. Everyone else appears to be giving it a pretty wide berth. It could be that the entire USA press corp (ex Murdoch) are actively working to support Biden against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but I think the more likely explanation is that they all think the story is a bit dodgy

My take on the Biden spokesperson was that she responded to the assertion, "Nobody has proved that these emails are inauthentic" as "Yes that's fair", as meaning that his statement is a true one. After that I can't hear what else she was trying to say because he just starts talking over the top of her again.

As regards Hunter Biden's silence, isn't he in rehab at the moment?


After she says "Yes thats fair" she definitely and clearly says "I dont think anyone is ***saying*** they are inauthentic." Nothing about proving, simple, noone is saying these emails are inauthentic. Cold hard fact that she said that and that no one from the Biden camp has said they are inauthentic.

Even if FG is correct (I dont think he is) in that she says "or not" next, the answer is....why not? If incriminating emails, documents and photos of me were distributed and they were not real or not mine, I would be screaming it from the rooftops that it wasnt mine. I cant believe people are suggesting something else.

With regards to "only Murdoch media are covering it, no one else", its worse than that. EVERY other media outlet, in the absence of a rebuttal from the Bidens, immediately started running stories that it was Russian disinformation, of course prompting the DNI to come out and say that to date, its not.

I think we should agree to disagree on this one mate.

My distrust of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and his team is so great that I would need a lot of independent authentication before I took this allegation seriously. An absence of "inauthentication" is just not going to cut it for me.

I think Biden's "failure" to defend himself is just good politics. Why let your opponent set the agenda? Why spend your limited media time responding to someone else "inauthenticated" accusations?

When I first heard this story about the laptop, with incriminating evidence on it, being dropped off for repair by an "unidentified" person and then not picked up, my gut feeling was that nobody in their right mind would fall for that rubbish. I'm still inclined to go with my gut feeling.
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250784) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250573) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250531) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250412) said:
Se they will mute the candidates microphones on Thursday us time debate, stop them talking over each other

Great, the less we hear of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the better for the world.

The less we see and hear from the Dems and Biden the quicker the world and America can repair the damage Democrat states have done by letting rioting,looting and needless deaths happen...
they are as bad as each other ,but Biden seems to have had a clear run for 47 years..Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has been there for 4...

Ummmm, sorry man, I'm not sure which planet you're living on but it ain't this one. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has reduced the once mighty reputation and standing of the USA to that of a circus, all aided and abetted by Murdoch and his media.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the Billy McMahon equivalent of leaders, albeit with Billy being 37 light years ahead in terms of motives, political nouce and competence.

If your going to resort to personal attacks instead of sensible conversation then dont try and grandstand...if I want to voice my opinion I will without insulting the intelligence of others,and if your so keen on the Dems..go and live their in the cespool that the place is ...the rioting,looting and murdering of innocent people may be your style of life its not mine...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250879) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250784) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250573) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250531) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250412) said:
Se they will mute the candidates microphones on Thursday us time debate, stop them talking over each other

Great, the less we hear of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the better for the world.

The less we see and hear from the Dems and Biden the quicker the world and America can repair the damage Democrat states have done by letting rioting,looting and needless deaths happen...
they are as bad as each other ,but Biden seems to have had a clear run for 47 years..Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has been there for 4...

Ummmm, sorry man, I'm not sure which planet you're living on but it ain't this one. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has reduced the once mighty reputation and standing of the USA to that of a circus, all aided and abetted by Murdoch and his media.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the Billy McMahon equivalent of leaders, albeit with Billy being 37 light years ahead in terms of motives, political nouce and competence.

If your going to resort to personal attacks instead of sensible conversation then dont try and grandstand...if I want to voice my opinion I will without insulting the intelligence of others,and if your so keen on the Dems..go and live their in the cespool that the place is ...the rioting,looting and murdering of innocent people may be your style of life its not mine...

I don’t think you are as non-partisan as you like to claim you are TT
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250883) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250879) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250784) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250573) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250531) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250412) said:
Se they will mute the candidates microphones on Thursday us time debate, stop them talking over each other

Great, the less we hear of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the better for the world.

The less we see and hear from the Dems and Biden the quicker the world and America can repair the damage Democrat states have done by letting rioting,looting and needless deaths happen...
they are as bad as each other ,but Biden seems to have had a clear run for 47 years..Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has been there for 4...

Ummmm, sorry man, I'm not sure which planet you're living on but it ain't this one. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has reduced the once mighty reputation and standing of the USA to that of a circus, all aided and abetted by Murdoch and his media.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the Billy McMahon equivalent of leaders, albeit with Billy being 37 light years ahead in terms of motives, political nouce and competence.

If your going to resort to personal attacks instead of sensible conversation then dont try and grandstand...if I want to voice my opinion I will without insulting the intelligence of others,and if your so keen on the Dems..go and live their in the cespool that the place is ...the rioting,looting and murdering of innocent people may be your style of life its not mine...

I don’t think you are as non-partisan as you like to claim you are TT

Im a person who likes conversation...I dont really care who runs the USA...I like things to be fair rather than one sided..as I said before Gunners I do have a stir occasionally but I must admit when it comes to looting good peoples businessess and killing of innocent people in states that are Dem run and nothing gets done about it ,seems to be hard to swallow..But it always ends up the Presidents fault ...Once again Im glad that we live here in a great country...
 
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250884) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250883) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250879) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250784) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250573) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250531) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250412) said:
Se they will mute the candidates microphones on Thursday us time debate, stop them talking over each other

Great, the less we hear of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the better for the world.

The less we see and hear from the Dems and Biden the quicker the world and America can repair the damage Democrat states have done by letting rioting,looting and needless deaths happen...
they are as bad as each other ,but Biden seems to have had a clear run for 47 years..Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has been there for 4...

Ummmm, sorry man, I'm not sure which planet you're living on but it ain't this one. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has reduced the once mighty reputation and standing of the USA to that of a circus, all aided and abetted by Murdoch and his media.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the Billy McMahon equivalent of leaders, albeit with Billy being 37 light years ahead in terms of motives, political nouce and competence.

If your going to resort to personal attacks instead of sensible conversation then dont try and grandstand...if I want to voice my opinion I will without insulting the intelligence of others,and if your so keen on the Dems..go and live their in the cespool that the place is ...the rioting,looting and murdering of innocent people may be your style of life its not mine...

I don’t think you are as non-partisan as you like to claim you are TT

Im a person who likes conversation...I dont really care who runs the USA...I like things to be fair rather than one sided..as I said before Gunners I do have a stir occasionally but I must admit when it comes to looting good peoples businessess and killing of innocent people in states that are Dem run and nothing gets done about it ,seems to be hard to swallow..But it always ends up the Presidents fault ...Once again Im glad that we live here in a great country...

I have to admit it gets tiring when hearing about “Democratic run cities”. Never heard that term under any other President. Just another example of how he loves dividing
 
Are we going to see a repeat of 2016 ..... the polling numbers are tightening up in the key seats .....Florida ...mid western seats .....
 
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250784) said:
@TrueTiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250573) said:
@Tiger-Tragic said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250531) said:
@Jedi_Tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1250412) said:
Se they will mute the candidates microphones on Thursday us time debate, stop them talking over each other

Great, the less we hear of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, the better for the world.

The less we see and hear from the Dems and Biden the quicker the world and America can repair the damage Democrat states have done by letting rioting,looting and needless deaths happen...
they are as bad as each other ,but Biden seems to have had a clear run for 47 years..Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has been there for 4...

Ummmm, sorry man, I'm not sure which planet you're living on but it ain't this one. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has reduced the once mighty reputation and standing of the USA to that of a circus, all aided and abetted by Murdoch and his media.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the Billy McMahon equivalent of leaders, albeit with Billy being 37 light years ahead in terms of motives, political nouce and competence.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon doesn’t have the ears.
 
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