@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.
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Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.
What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...
They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay
Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !
I'm sure you have links to facts that back up those statements.
The Biloela family, old mate worked at the abbatoir and the wife was a volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul. They were not welfare bludgers. The contributed as taxpayers and members of their community.
. . . . CB, you would have to be extremely naive, or live in suburbs with zero immigration, to think that so many don't rort the system.
I know for fact of families that pretended to live apart so the wife could claim benefits . . . and this same woman traded under 2 names and so got 2 lots of dodgy payments.
So many come here, and before they get a suntan they know how to extract every cent from our Govt. From rent assistance to child endowment. They know all the lurks. You and I wouldn't know half of what we are "entitled" to. These guys know every single one of their rights, but don't feel the need to know any of their responsibilities.
The Biloela family you mention . . . you know that they are the exception to the rule. Well, maybe and hopefully not in Biloela. If they all worked, volunteered and paid taxes like old mate . . . we'd be in a lovely win win situation !
As I said, if they want to work, contribute and assimilate, ( like so many migrants before them ) then I'm all for it. But sadly . . . in my neck of the woods in suburbia . . . they don't take to work real quick when they know that our Govt will keep them, and however many offspring they feel like spawning. Much cheaper to have kids when someone else pays for their upkeep.
So it's anecdotal. Got ya.
I am in no doubt that it happens. If it was so prevalent it would be spoken about a lot more than it is, and the laws in regard to access to welfare by migrants would have been changed. We've had a conservative federal government for seven years, and it doesn't appear they've done much to change things.