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@TheDaBoss said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285905) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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Was it really necessary to bring politics into this thread...



On a day of what is supposed to be about the biblical birth of christ and the celebration of all christian religions i believe it is fine to show the total hypocracy of a so called christian who happens to be out elected leader
 
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285907) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285905) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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Was it really necessary to bring politics into this thread...

On this day, yes. Do you think it is right for a Christian to treat our country's children like this?

Are they really Christians? Don't think so.

Just because you were baptised at anything from 0-5 years, doesn't mean you are a Christian. It is in your belief and deeds that mark you.

A Christian is more than just a name, but that's ok, slander millions of Christians worldwide, because a small minority do unchristian things.
 
@Russell said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285924) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285907) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285905) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Was it really necessary to bring politics into this thread...

On this day, yes. Do you think it is right for a Christian to treat our country's children like this?

Are they really Christians? Don't think so.

Just because you were baptised at anything from 0-5 years, doesn't mean you are a Christian. It is in your belief and deeds that mark you.

A Christian is more than just a name, but that's ok, slander millions of Christians worldwide, because a small minority do unchristian things.

And that is my whole point. I have no problem with people's faith, whatever that may be, but live your life like one and don't pretend that you believe in it's ideals for gain. Attendance of a place of worship and publicising such doesn’t make one a person of god, with actions doing the true speaking and I can no longer leave them swept under a huge carpet.
 
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

How sad that you choose this time of year to push your obvious agenda. Unsurprising, though. . . . Tell me, are these people Christian ? If not, why are they pretending to be, by parading about in front of a Merry Christmas sign ?
Continuing from your long bow of grouping mainstream Christianity with the left field Christian groups . . . . the girls may be innocent as you suggest, but what do we know about the parents ? Many children raped and murdered by religious extremists were innocent, too. Many "refugees" conveniently destroy all their documentation to hide violent and barbaric pasts and cry innocent at our border.
And as for not releasing them on their 1026th day ( but who's counting?), there would be a valid reason. If not, then it might just be the process that Australia chooses to weed out the wrong people from entering our country under false pretences.
Merry Christmas mate. Not happy stupid bs festivus . . .MERRY CHRISTMAS.
 
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285941) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

How sad that you choose this time of year to push your obvious agenda. Unsurprising, though. . . . Tell me, are these people Christian ? If not, why are they pretending to be, by parading about in front of a Merry Christmas sign ?
Continuing from your long bow of grouping mainstream Christianity with the left field Christian groups . . . . the girls may be innocent as you suggest, but what do we know about the parents ? Many children raped and murdered by religious extremists were innocent, too. Many "refugees" conveniently destroy all their documentation to hide violent and barbaric pasts and cry innocent at our border.
And as for not releasing them on their 1026th day ( but who's counting?), there would be a valid reason. If not, then it might just be the process that Australia chooses to weed out the wrong people from entering our country under false pretences.
Merry Christmas mate. Not happy stupid bs festivus . . .MERRY CHRISTMAS.

Haha, triggered by a Seinfeld joke.
 
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285941) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

How sad that you choose this time of year to push your obvious agenda. Unsurprising, though. . . . Tell me, are these people Christian ? If not, why are they pretending to be, by parading about in front of a Merry Christmas sign ?
Continuing from your long bow of grouping mainstream Christianity with the left field Christian groups . . . . the girls may be innocent as you suggest, but what do we know about the parents ? Many children raped and murdered by religious extremists were innocent, too. Many "refugees" conveniently destroy all their documentation to hide violent and barbaric pasts and cry innocent at our border.
And as for not releasing them on their 1026th day ( but who's counting?), there would be a valid reason. If not, then it might just be the process that Australia chooses to weed out the wrong people from entering our country under false pretences.
Merry Christmas mate. Not happy stupid bs festivus . . .MERRY CHRISTMAS.

They have a reason for crap like this and it is to attract flies and create more maggots.
 
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285954) said:
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285941) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

How sad that you choose this time of year to push your obvious agenda. Unsurprising, though. . . . Tell me, are these people Christian ? If not, why are they pretending to be, by parading about in front of a Merry Christmas sign ?
Continuing from your long bow of grouping mainstream Christianity with the left field Christian groups . . . . the girls may be innocent as you suggest, but what do we know about the parents ? Many children raped and murdered by religious extremists were innocent, too. Many "refugees" conveniently destroy all their documentation to hide violent and barbaric pasts and cry innocent at our border.
And as for not releasing them on their 1026th day ( but who's counting?), there would be a valid reason. If not, then it might just be the process that Australia chooses to weed out the wrong people from entering our country under false pretences.
Merry Christmas mate. Not happy stupid bs festivus . . .MERRY CHRISTMAS.

They have a reason for crap like this and it is to attract flies and create more maggots.

Why don’t you piss off back to the politics thread !
 
Of the 6 gentleman brought to Gladstone / Biloela I got to know one of the boys from Biloela reasonably well ...he would drop in and say Hi when he went fishing at Turkey Beach and he worked at the Meatworks at Biloela at my company at night easily put in 65 plus hours ...he was deported around Christmas 2019 ....The 3 guys who worked at my store ...2 refused to work and wanted to be sent to Melbourne and both did runners

As for Hafiz ...we became good mates .....I brought him a $ 50 rod and reel combo for Xmas the 2nd year he was in Gladstone ..he just loved fishing ..we fished quite regularly together ...he worked for me for about 3 1/2 years and I just loved him as a worker /mate ...never called in sick ...never complained .....

His story was a bad one ....he could speak English so the Americans hired him as an interpreter ..his parents had a grocery store that he ran for them

I... Govt didn't like it and put his entire family in prison ...where they still probably are ....I'll never forget the day he came to work crying ...they had found he was in Australia and told him if he didn't come back his entire family would remain in prison until he did

He ended meeting another young lady that worked with us and they ended up in Sydney ...I hope he has managed to stay in Australia and is still with the young girl ......if I could find fault with her ..she was a Doggies supporter

I don't care if you are green purple orange ...believe in Christianity ...Buddhism , are a Hare Krishna or if you worship the banana sitting in fruit bowl

Everyone deserves the chance at a better life ...and these people have proven they are happy to do jobs that most Australians turn their noses up at and contribute to our communities and are happy to assimilate with our communities

What have they done to any else in Australia ...absolutely nothing

When the local community is screaming for them to stay ...bloody let them stay you stupid political terds
 
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.
 
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay
 
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285954) said:
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285941) said:
@formerguest said in [Merry Christmas](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

.
![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

How sad that you choose this time of year to push your obvious agenda. Unsurprising, though. . . . Tell me, are these people Christian ? If not, why are they pretending to be, by parading about in front of a Merry Christmas sign ?
Continuing from your long bow of grouping mainstream Christianity with the left field Christian groups . . . . the girls may be innocent as you suggest, but what do we know about the parents ? Many children raped and murdered by religious extremists were innocent, too. Many "refugees" conveniently destroy all their documentation to hide violent and barbaric pasts and cry innocent at our border.
And as for not releasing them on their 1026th day ( but who's counting?), there would be a valid reason. If not, then it might just be the process that Australia chooses to weed out the wrong people from entering our country under false pretences.
Merry Christmas mate. Not happy stupid bs festivus . . .MERRY CHRISTMAS.

They have a reason for crap like this and it is to attract flies and create more maggots.

I see it worked and definitely attracted a maggot.
 
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

How’s Donald’s path to victory looking CK?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286016) said:
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !
 
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286075) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286016) said:
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

.
![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !

2 didn't as I mentioned ...they were literally doing nothing and they wanted to get to Melbourne
 
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286075) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286016) said:
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

.
![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !

I'm sure you have links to facts that back up those statements.

The Biloela family, old mate worked at the abbatoir and the wife was a volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul. They were not welfare bludgers. The contributed as taxpayers and members of their community.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286115) said:
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286075) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286016) said:
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

.
![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !

I'm sure you have links to facts that back up those statements.

The Biloela family, old mate worked at the abbatoir and the wife was a volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul. They were not welfare bludgers. The contributed as taxpayers and members of their community.


. . . . CB, you would have to be extremely naive, or live in suburbs with zero immigration, to think that so many don't rort the system.
I know for fact of families that pretended to live apart so the wife could claim benefits . . . and this same woman traded under 2 names and so got 2 lots of dodgy payments.
So many come here, and before they get a suntan they know how to extract every cent from our Govt. From rent assistance to child endowment. They know all the lurks. You and I wouldn't know half of what we are "entitled" to. These guys know every single one of their rights, but don't feel the need to know any of their responsibilities.
The Biloela family you mention . . . you know that they are the exception to the rule. Well, maybe and hopefully not in Biloela. If they all worked, volunteered and paid taxes like old mate . . . we'd be in a lovely win win situation !
As I said, if they want to work, contribute and assimilate, ( like so many migrants before them ) then I'm all for it. But sadly . . . in my neck of the woods in suburbia . . . they don't take to work real quick when they know that our Govt will keep them, and however many offspring they feel like spawning. Much cheaper to have kids when someone else pays for their upkeep.
 
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286137) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286115) said:
@Go_You_Good_Things said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286075) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286016) said:
@cktiger said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1286012) said:
@formerguest said in [Politics Super Thread \- keep it all in here](/post/1285892) said:
As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

.
![Screenshot_20201225-215931_Gallery.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1608894568440-screenshot_20201225-215931_gallery-resized.jpg)

Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !

I'm sure you have links to facts that back up those statements.

The Biloela family, old mate worked at the abbatoir and the wife was a volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul. They were not welfare bludgers. The contributed as taxpayers and members of their community.
. . . . CB, you would have to be extremely naive, or live in suburbs with zero immigration, to think that so many don't rort the system.
I know for fact of families that pretended to live apart so the wife could claim benefits . . . and this same woman traded under 2 names and so got 2 lots of dodgy payments.
So many come here, and before they get a suntan they know how to extract every cent from our Govt. From rent assistance to child endowment. They know all the lurks. You and I wouldn't know half of what we are "entitled" to. These guys know every single one of their rights, but don't feel the need to know any of their responsibilities.
The Biloela family you mention . . . you know that they are the exception to the rule. Well, maybe and hopefully not in Biloela. If they all worked, volunteered and paid taxes like old mate . . . we'd be in a lovely win win situation !
As I said, if they want to work, contribute and assimilate, ( like so many migrants before them ) then I'm all for it. But sadly . . . in my neck of the woods in suburbia . . . they don't take to work real quick when they know that our Govt will keep them, and however many offspring they feel like spawning. Much cheaper to have kids when someone else pays for their upkeep.

So it's anecdotal. Got ya.

I am in no doubt that it happens. If it was so prevalent it would be spoken about a lot more than it is, and the laws in regard to access to welfare by migrants would have been changed. We've had a conservative federal government for seven years, and it doesn't appear they've done much to change things. Especially when they seem so eager to return migrants and they held the upper and lower house for the two terms prior to 2019.

I would imagine of migrants could abuse the system as such, that there would be citizens doing the same.
 
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As we celebrate a day that our supposed Christian leader, with his Hillsong and Pentecostal allies that believe is the birth of our saviour, please remember that these terrible men that hide behind a veneer of Christianity voted in the last week of parliament to keep these two innocent Australian girls in custody for their 1026th day this Xmas, now being their third in this detention centre near Indonesia on the appropriately namesake of Christmas Island.

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Poor buggers tried the old trick of having kids here to get all the softhearted sooks to let them stay - even though they are not entitled.
Too bad they don’t throw out the thousands of others who have done it and let deserving refugees come here.

What many don't understand is many of the country towns in Qld when the contract work comes into towns like Biloela ....Gladstone ...Emerald ....Moranbah ...etc is that many companies can't find staff to run their businesses because they can't find staff ...you spend the time to train someone who comes into town and then the get on the contract work where they can earn twice as much work at your business ...


They are doing a massive service in our towns ...let them stay

Happy, it sounds like some of them are doing the right thing ( looking to support themselves and contribute to, and not drain, the economy that allowed them entry ) in your local town.
In the big smoke, the first port of call for many is not the employment office, it's the unemployment office.
They have a network of friends and do-gooder advisory services that explain to them every single right they have. Every single cent they can take from our Govt. There isn't a refugee responsibilities advisory service . . . just one to let them know what they can take. I see these day to day, and they all know what our Gov't will give them. I don't even know what half of these entitlements are.
So Happy, consider yourself lucky to see the group of these that want to work, and want to contribute and assimilate . . . I'm all for that !

I'm sure you have links to facts that back up those statements.

The Biloela family, old mate worked at the abbatoir and the wife was a volunteer with St. Vincent de Paul. They were not welfare bludgers. The contributed as taxpayers and members of their community.
. . . . CB, you would have to be extremely naive, or live in suburbs with zero immigration, to think that so many don't rort the system.
I know for fact of families that pretended to live apart so the wife could claim benefits . . . and this same woman traded under 2 names and so got 2 lots of dodgy payments.
So many come here, and before they get a suntan they know how to extract every cent from our Govt. From rent assistance to child endowment. They know all the lurks. You and I wouldn't know half of what we are "entitled" to. These guys know every single one of their rights, but don't feel the need to know any of their responsibilities.
The Biloela family you mention . . . you know that they are the exception to the rule. Well, maybe and hopefully not in Biloela. If they all worked, volunteered and paid taxes like old mate . . . we'd be in a lovely win win situation !
As I said, if they want to work, contribute and assimilate, ( like so many migrants before them ) then I'm all for it. But sadly . . . in my neck of the woods in suburbia . . . they don't take to work real quick when they know that our Govt will keep them, and however many offspring they feel like spawning. Much cheaper to have kids when someone else pays for their upkeep.

So it's anecdotal. Got ya.

I am in no doubt that it happens. If it was so prevalent it would be spoken about a lot more than it is, and the laws in regard to access to welfare by migrants would have been changed. We've had a conservative federal government for seven years, and it doesn't appear they've done much to change things.

It's not spoken about ( as you wonder )because the leftie's will tear you a new one for expressing opinions that differ to theirs. Just in the last few replies, some moron wanted a poster to remain childless so his bloodlines dry up. Some other tool likened my post to the resultant flies and maggots that come from such opinions. That's why it's not spoken about more than what it is . . .
CB, I'm not quoting some report written by someone who is 5000kms away and has no idea. It's what I've seen with my own eyes.
It's grown men drinking coffee all day every day in the shops. It's grown men saying " why should I work when the dole is only a little bit less ?
It's tenants breaking leases by not paying rent, having been advised by their religious group's advisory board of all the hoops the landlord has to jump through before he can evict.
Which Gov't will have the balls to make welfare harder for these ? The bleeding hearts will shoot them down in a flash.
CB, it seems that you live in a rural area. If they come to your area with the will to work, I can see why you doubt what I say.
Believe me, it's much different in the city.
If only half of them worked, volunteered and paid taxes, we'd all be happy with that. And out of all of that, the volunteering is the part that garners my respect the most.
 
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