Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Jedi_Tiger]

Clive 'Couldn't even buy a seat after spending $83,000,000' Palmer? Excellent.

he will be king maker again
he will send preferences to liberal party in Qld again.

 

[tigger]

I received an email tonight with an invitation to join The illuminati from The illuminati world elite empire.

Should I?

Only if you're sure they can win 3 games in a row.

 

[Geo]

I received an email tonight with an invitation to join The illuminati from The illuminati world elite empire.

Should I?

Welcome..

 

[mike]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

 

[jadtiger]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

Dutton will be looking forward to abusing the new law.I wouldn't trust that bloke in anything he says or does.

 

[Yossarian]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

 

[Yossarian]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU


Dutton will be looking forward to abusing the new law.I wouldn't trust that bloke in anything he says or does.

Dutton isn’t the Home Affairs minister anymore. Even if he was I doubt he’d be personally involving himself in AFP or ACIC investigations.

 

[mike]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

 

[Yossarian]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

TI and SD have always been suspected of committing a relevant offence. But you can’t just have a hunch you need to present some evidence for your suspicion. It’s one of the most scrutinised areas in the country.

 

[mike]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

TI and SD have always been suspected of committing a relevant offence. But you can’t just have a hunch you need to present some evidence for your suspicion. It’s one of the most scrutinised areas in the country.

Once you give law enforcement the ability to impersonate someone that is stepping over the line. That’s a whole new paradigm that is open to abuse like nothing before it. I’ll be making my view known at the next ballot.

 

[Merlot]

passive protest.turn off your computers/phones,stop paying bills ,moving money around via tech....DAAAA

 

[mike]

passive protest.turn off your computers/phones,stop paying bills ,moving money around via tech....DAAAA

Yeah but if the law enforcement can impersonate you using tech, the money you have moved by tech is not safe.

 

[Merlot]

passive protest.turn off your computers/phones,stop paying bills ,moving money around via tech....DAAAA

Yeah but if the law enforcement can impersonate you using tech, the money you have moved by tech is not safe.

what money lol

 

[Yossarian]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

TI and SD have always been suspected of committing a relevant offence. But you can’t just have a hunch you need to present some evidence for your suspicion. It’s one of the most scrutinised areas in the country.

Once you give law enforcement the ability to impersonate someone that is stepping over the line. That’s a whole new paradigm that is open to abuse like nothing before it. I’ll be making my view known at the next ballot.

You mean like deep undercover operatives? Police have always been able to do that. We’ll have to disagree on this - I’m for it.

 

[mike]

passive protest.turn off your computers/phones,stop paying bills ,moving money around via tech....DAAAA

Yeah but if the law enforcement can impersonate you using tech, the money you have moved by tech is not safe.

what money lol

Likewise but sounds like @merlot has some.

 

[Merlot]

passive protest.turn off your computers/phones,stop paying bills ,moving money around via tech....DAAAA

Yeah but if the law enforcement can impersonate you using tech, the money you have moved by tech is not safe.

what money lol

Likewise but sounds like @merlot has some.

down vote,shoosh

 

[mike]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

TI and SD have always been suspected of committing a relevant offence. But you can’t just have a hunch you need to present some evidence for your suspicion. It’s one of the most scrutinised areas in the country.

Once you give law enforcement the ability to impersonate someone that is stepping over the line. That’s a whole new paradigm that is open to abuse like nothing before it. I’ll be making my view known at the next ballot.

You mean like deep undercover operatives? Police have always been able to do that. We’ll have to disagree on this - I’m for it.

Yes we disagree. Undercover operatives don’t impersonate you, they infiltrate using other means/identity. There is a huge difference.

I am vehemently opposed to giving law enforcement such sweeping powers.

 

[Merlot]

zig hiehl

 

[Guest]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU


Dutton will be looking forward to abusing the new law.I wouldn't trust that bloke in anything he says or does.

Except Dutton is no longer MHA.

 

[Guest]

This is rather disturbing

The Federal Government passed a bill last Wednesday.  The Federal Police can now log into your social media, email ect.  Alter it the way they want and pretend to be you if they suspect you or “terrorism” or if they think you will do illegal activities.

Of course that won’t be abused, without accountability.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6623&fbclid=IwAR0vHYgJUIe5ZDISJFIHmt8lmY2AVS7yiMF0NJv2iCMcmLjSnSqM-xOytPU

By “your” you mean someone committing a relevant offence? You still Ned a warrant - those are more difficult to find obtain than most people think.

That’s the point they don’t have to be committing an offence anymore, the Feds only have to think they will. This is worse than phone tapping, they can actually impersonate you, change your settings, respond to emails as you. This will be abused. It is a gross invasion of privacy and goes beyond just surveillance.

Sorry Mike but you don't know what you're talking about on this one.