Potter Interview on Sports Sunday 2KY

[innsaneink]

Things are very very different for Potter than they were for Sheens….dont kid yourself they arent

in what way?

Have you been reading the thread?
In the way we were previously talking about

 

[tig_prmz]

i think with the liberty the board gave sheens, as in let him do whatever he wished might be an indication about how they treat potter as well. i think potter will get whatever he wants from the board and the CEO

The board didnt have to worry about an ex coach owed nearly $1m during Sheens' term like they will while Potter is here

potter wouldn't have any unrealistic expectations from the board anyway.
he'll more than likely know what the board is capable of providing him with and make plans accordingly.
and if he doesnt, then who is the club honest with, if not the coach?

They didn't just sack Sheens one year into a three year contract for no reason. It appears that the board will no longer accept poor performance (whatever the catalyst was for this seemingly abrupt change in their approach to this is anyone's guess,) but they (the board,) would no doubt have minimum expectations that Potter will need to meet next season.

It has been a rather costly lesson for the club, but don't think that the board (or sections of the fanbase and sponsors,) will be happy with just scraping into the eight only to be barrelled out in week one of the finals with the squad we have.

im not talking about results at all.
all im talking about is how much money/time the board gives potter in order to achieve what potter's goals are.
i think the onus is on potter to do the best, as i think the board will provide him with as much as he needs.

 

[Marshall_magic]

I asked them to ask him what his intentions were re: Anasta considering Marshall & Miller are in the halves.

He said while hes comfortable in the halve he's also capable at LOCK …but he will see how all players acquit and apply themselves over pre season

Rather non commital as expected at this stage

Isn't that what you'd expect at this stage? He hasn't even taken one training session yet.

There was a lot to like about that transcript but as we discovered under Sheens, talk is cheap and the boys need to get out there and perform. No more excuses.

 

[happy_tiger]

Happy u have missed the point. It appears Blotto knows Potter, and has said Mick will move players around to gain versatility to cover injuries. For me he doesnt really need to do it, only make sure those capable of playing in the halves all know the plays.

Don't think I missed the point KS The problem this side is going to have is the memories of the last month of footy in 2012

We go mucking around with with combinations during the pre season and trials we will severely dint this teams confidence going into the season proper and we get some tough games early we could be in serious strife

Mess around with the forwards and backs to a degree all you like , but set the spine up trial one and keep it there to build combinations and confidence

A question or thought though …....

We have all assumed it was Sheens who didn't like Miller , what happens if it was Marshall or Farah and they said they didn't want to play with him for some reason ???

 

[tigersrule4life]

Heres a interview from fox sports yesterday with Benny Elias and Paul Sironen.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/League/tigers-greats-back-potter/video-e6frf3ou-1226506967261?subcat=1225914677120&site=FoxSports

 

[Basil_Tiger]

Happy u have missed the point. It appears Blotto knows Potter, and has said Mick will move players around to gain versatility to cover injuries. For me he doesnt really need to do it, only make sure those capable of playing in the halves all know the plays.

Don't think I missed the point KS The problem this side is going to have is the memories of the last month of footy in 2012

We go mucking around with with combinations during the pre season and trials we will severely dint this teams confidence going into the season proper and we get some tough games early we could be in serious strife

Mess around with the forwards and backs to a degree all you like , but set the spine up trial one and keep it there to build combinations and confidence

A question or thought though …....

**We have all assumed it was Sheens who didn't like Miller , what happens if it was Marshall or Farah and they said they didn't want to play with him for some reason ???**

I think you have hit on one of problems that lurked in the background this season however in this case i think it was TIm,he alluded to his thinking in an interview in 2011 about lower grade players have to dominate & be exceptional to have any chance in the NRL

 

[Snodgrass]

I watched a reply of the NYC Bulldogs semi final the other day and you know (pulling a screwed up face) I still can't make my mind up about Miller. His kicking game was OK but he does this kind of shoulder straightening thing before sending the ball wide, as if he doesn't have the strength to throw a decent pass without his chest being at 47.37 degrees to the intended recipient (or something) and that takes time off the outside runners. This was noticeable at this level, which is of course many yards slower than the top grade, where it would translate into his centres or fullback getting buried. And he didn't ever really threaten the line in this game.

He seems to have all the armory (short of passing strength) and for a halfback his defense is Tigerish (pun intended) but I keep pulling that constipated, screwed up face look every time I think of him.

Really hope I'm wrong

 

[Goose]

Happy u have missed the point. It appears Blotto knows Potter, and has said Mick will move players around to gain versatility to cover injuries. For me he doesnt really need to do it, only make sure those capable of playing in the halves all know the plays.

Don't think I missed the point KS The problem this side is going to have is the memories of the last month of footy in 2012

We go mucking around with with combinations during the pre season and trials we will severely dint this teams confidence going into the season proper and we get some tough games early we could be in serious strife

Mess around with the forwards and backs to a degree all you like , but set the spine up trial one and keep it there to build combinations and confidence

A question or thought though …....

We have all assumed it was Sheens who didn't like Miller , what happens if it was Marshall or Farah and they said they didn't want to play with him for some reason ???

I think it is wrong to assume anyone did not like him.

I know people are pointing to the fact that he did not get an extended run in the NRL as reason that he was not wanted.

The fact that a 19 yo half back got a crack in 2011 and a few more games this year prob points to just the opposite IMO, kids dont normally get a crack in key positions too early in the piece.

I think he is talented and am hoping he becomes a good first grader, but IMO he is still very much a work in progress.
So far from the NYC 3 half backs in 5 years (Johnson, Reynolds and DCE, have locked down the first choice half back spot with Ben Hunt and Sam Williams playing lots of first grade but as either a back up or in Hunts case in another position. None of these did this whilst being eligible for NYC and only Johnson played significant NRL in his first year out of NYC. At NYC level the 3 mentioned that have locked down a 7 jersey were far more dominant at NYC level and still had to bide there time.

Most on here would not have seen an awful lot of Miller as we did not get many TV games this season and in many cases the only game they have seen him play is the GF, he was outstanding in the GF and looked first grade ready. However if you had only seen his game against the rooster in rnd 23 or there abouts, people would be saying that he was a complete bum (which is not the case either).

He was a slightly built 20 yo playing in a key spot, with a few question marks on his defense which seems to have steadilly improved over 3 years in NYC, it makes complete sense to me not to play Miller in 2012\. Another full off season to further develop both physically and his skill set may see him become an excellent NRL player in 2013, even if this does happen, it does not make Sheens wrong in 2012.

 

[happy_tiger]

Goose ,should of said that he (Sheens,Marshall or Farah) didn't think he was up to it (not didn't like him )

I meant it in that sense

Whether he was ready or not (similiar to Lui in many regards) he was the next best 7 at the club that would compliment Benji at 6 and should of got the job

Moving Benji to 7 just created more issues everywhere

 

[Goose]

Goose ,should of said that he (Sheens,Marshall or Farah) didn't think he was up to it (not didn't like him )

I meant it in that sense

Whether he was ready or not (similiar to Lui in many regards) he was the next best 7 at the club that would compliment Benji at 6 and should of got the job

Moving Benji to 7 just created more issues everywhere

I was not so much responding to your comment, but the aggregate of all comments by loads of posters, it seems that many feel Miller was done a great injustice by not playing that must first grade in the last 2 years, I dont feel that is the case.

Had he of played NRL this year i would not have jumped up and down and claimed he should not be there, and there is a clear logic to leaving marshall at 6 and promoting miller.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

I watched a reply of the NYC Bulldogs semi final the other day and you know (pulling a screwed up face) I still can't make my mind up about Miller. His kicking game was OK but he does this kind of shoulder straightening thing before sending the ball wide, as if he doesn't have the strength to throw a decent pass without his chest being at 47.37 degrees to the intended recipient (or something) and that takes time off the outside runners. This was noticeable at this level, which is of course many yards slower than the top grade, where it would translate into his centres or fullback getting buried. And he didn't ever really threaten the line in this game.

He seems to have all the armory (short of passing strength) and for a halfback his defense is Tigerish (pun intended) but I keep pulling that constipated, screwed up face look every time I think of him.

Really hope I'm wrong

You're not wrong Inspector Snodgrass.

maybe Potter can 'remedy' it.

 

[LaT]

Goose ,should of said that he (Sheens,Marshall or Farah) didn't think he was up to it (not didn't like him )

I meant it in that sense

Whether he was ready or not (similiar to Lui in many regards) he was the next best 7 at the club that would compliment Benji at 6 and should of got the job

Moving Benji to 7 just created more issues everywhere

I was not so much responding to your comment, but the aggregate of all comments by loads of posters, it seems that many feel Miller was done a great injustice by not playing that must first grade in the last 2 years, I dont feel that is the case.

Had he of played NRL this year i would not have jumped up and down and claimed he should not be there, and there is a clear logic to leaving marshall at 6 and promoting miller.

Its not so much that there was jumping up and down about Miller not getting a huge run the last 2 years, but more about the perceived notion that Miller wasn't going to get a proper chance in the future. Which is just speculation I guess.

But until Sheens was punted Miller didn't seem to have much of a future at WT while plenty of other teams were scrambling for him. Again, I know thats just speculation and rumour.

 

[innsaneink]

I asked them to ask him what his intentions were re: Anasta considering Marshall & Miller are in the halves.

He said while hes comfortable in the halve he's also capable at LOCK …but he will see how all players acquit and apply themselves over pre season

**Rather non commital as expected at this stage**

Isn't that what you'd expect at this stage? He hasn't even taken one training session yet.

There was a lot to like about that transcript but as we discovered under Sheens, talk is cheap and the boys need to get out there and perform. No more excuses.

Yes….it wasnt surprising he was non commital, thats why I typed that ( see **BOLD**) though ....interesting though, I hadnt heard him asked of the question prior....him not being surprised at Anasta and Halfback in the same sentence tells me things even a non committal answer doesnt

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

Had some handy coaches as a player Ryan ,Gould ,Smith and would of thought if he was at the Saints in 84 Roy Masters as well .

He would of taken a lot from being coached by them

Someone mentioned to me that he was one of the hardest working coaches in the ESL

Don't forget that MP had Peter Mulholland as coach when he was at the Western Reds in 1995, MP never played under Roy Masters and he was basically only ever coached at a first grade level by the Wok and Brian Smith, some coaches spawn a plethora of new generation coaches and again it's happened here.

 

[Goose]

Had some handy coaches as a player Ryan ,Gould ,Smith and would of thought if he was at the Saints in 84 Roy Masters as well .

He would of taken a lot from being coached by them

Someone mentioned to me that he was one of the hardest working coaches in the ESL

Don't forget that MP had Peter Mulholland as coach when he was at the Western Reds in 1995, MP never played under Roy Masters and he was basically only ever coached at a first grade level by the Wok and Brian Smith, some coaches spawn a plethora of new generation coaches and again it's happened here.

Phil Gould and Craig young as well.