king_sirro
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Im not sure of Rangi's background, but could i be right in saying he's a kiwi born, aussie grown, pom???/ Rediculous
Rangi Chase selected for England.
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@Flippedy said:
As a resident? Sure. But he's played for Ireland in the past so he's possibly not interested in turning out for England.
cnx_tigers
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Do you live in Cambodia? Have you been there 3 years? Is your girlfriend Cambodian and you intend to marry her and live there? Are you likely to be there for the major part of your life and have kids who are half cambodian?
All these things apply to Rangi Chase in England…............
happy_tiger
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@Flippedy said:
As a resident? Sure. But he's played for Ireland in the past so he's possibly not interested in turning out for England.
Ah yes, I'd forgotten that he played for Ireland, thanks Yoss.
But he could play for Great Britain guys
@happy tiger said:
Who? That particular team seems to be on a long-term hiatus at the moment Happy! Besides are you suggesting Irish players would be eligible? I know some of them used to play for GB every now and then but now that there is an Irish team that may not happen even if they bring back Great Britain.
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
I think they should go back to picking the GB side Yoss They would be far stronger and far more competitve
Do you have an issue with the Irish playing for GB
Keith Woods (the bald headed hooker from Ireland ) has played for GB (in union of course ) as well as O'Driscoll
@happy tiger said:
Union has a different set-up Happy. Keith Wood played for the British **and Irish** Lions. As have an absolute stack of Irish players. They would argue they're not playing for Great Britain which has a political undertone to it.
As for the GB Lions league team, I think Brian Carney turned out for them. I'm thinking though most of the Irish guys who played for GB league team did so because there wasn't much of a choice. Now that there is an Irish team I'm not sure if they would be so relaxed about Irish players turning out for GB.
Personally it doesn't bother me if they want to play for any GB team but the better solution would be for them to run a Lions team more like union and maybe even throw in some Frenchies for good measure. That way they could still play for Ireland and you could have a strong (league) Lions team touring Aust.
happy_tiger
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Yoss they can themselves whatever they want as long as they can produce a competitive side to take on Australia
Very true! Although I've got hopes that England will be a bit stronger in the 4 nations this year than they have recently. Wales will be interesting to see.
happy_tiger
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@Yossarian said:
The only thing I can see that the Poms have going for them (apart from Rhino and Gareth) is home ground advantage
And that won't even save them
Benji will tear them to threads and they won't beat Australia in a pink fit
Probably. But this is hardly the strongest looking Australian side of all time. NZ look a pretty good chance to win the whole thing but tomorrow will tell us more.
Tiger_Watto
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Congratulations to Chris Heighington on making his debut for England this Friday, packing into the Second Row with Gareth Ellis…
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Prohmy
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Re ireland players who played for GB, Barrie Macdermott did both. Re chase, bearing in mind two of the english squad have had a squabble after their grand final and knowing the captain peacock hates everything australasian and will be very happy to hear Widdup's Chase's and Heighno's accent in the english dressing room, i think the disharmony in the ranks will kill off any meagre hope the home nation had of winning against anyone other than Wales, who will be dire. Even with Burgess and Ellis at their best, the english pack isn't as good as australia's. England have two chances, slim and none, but the hope is they are competitive and keep in the game for a least threequarters of it to reward the fans paying money to watch it.
@stryker said:
I wouldn't have thought so based on his Australian form but he won the player of the year award over there so he must be going alright.
Tiger_Watto
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@stryker said:
If you are looking on paper at Rangi vs his opposites (Marshall/Thurston/Lockyer) you would think not. But I feel you need to look at what style of football England will choose to play before questoning whether he belongs or not. England will never be able to compete with Australia or New Zealand if they try and play 'our' style of football. But if they have a game plan which they feel could beat both nations, maybe Rangi is the perfect player to have in the 7?
innsaneink
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Rangi M-O-M
Chase runs hot for England
Friday 21st October 11
England warmed up for the Gillette Four Nations Series in encouraging fashion by overcoming a gutsy France 32-18 in front of a bumper 16,866 crowd at Parc des Sports in Avignon.
The French, fielding close to the team that lost 38-18 to England Knights seven days earlier, came up with a vastly improved display to give England a useful run-out ahead of their clash with Wales next Saturday.
But Steve McNamara’s side had too much class for their hosts and debutants Jack Reed, Rangi Chase and Chris Heighington all made valuable contributions.
Chase was named man of the match after transferring the silky skills that made him the 2011 Man of Steel on to the international stage while Reed provided the highlight with a thrilling 70-metre try.
McNamara will be irritated by the concession of two late tries that made the score closer than it ought to have been but, overall, there was much to savour about England’s performance, with Kevin Sinfield, Gareth Ellis and James Roby all enhancing their world-class status and Kirk Yeaman making an impressive return to the international scene.
Sinfield, who played the full 80 minutes, set the tone with a 40-20 kick in the first set of tackles to set up the position for Reed to get his winger Ryan Hall over for the first try with just 90 seconds on the clock.
Sinfield looked a likely tryscorer after smart offloads from front rowers James Graham and Jamie Peacock but full-back Cyril Stacul came to the rescue with a last-ditch tackle and the French hit back with their best spell of the match.
A break from debutant centre Mathias Pala signalled danger and established the position from which captain Olivier Elima scored an equalising try, winning the race to Thomas Bosc’s grubber kick despite a suspicion of a knock-on.
Bosc’s conversion edged France in front but he missed a chance to extend their lead when he failed with a penalty while loose forward Jason Baitieri lost the ball going for the line as England were put under intense pressure.
The visitors eventually weathered the storm and took a firm grip on the game with three tries in the last 11 minutes of the first half, with Chase at the heart of the fightback.
The New Zealand-born Castleford Tigers favourite combined with Sam Tomkins to get Yeaman over on 29 minutes and sent out a long pass to enable Yeaman to send his winger Tom Briscoe in shortly afterwards for the first of his brace.
The best try came just before the break when Sinfield got Graham charging into a hole in the French defence and he produced a delightful pass for Roby to touch down.
Sinfield’s second goal made it 20-6 at half-time and any prospect of a comeback by the French was ended when Briscoe grabbed his second try nine minutes into the second half, wrong-footing his marker after more good work from Tomkins.
England brought off Tomkins as a precaution after 50 minutes and replacement full-back Gareth Widdop quickly made his mark, breaking the first line of defence to release Reed, who swatted off two defenders on a superb run to the line.
Sinfield’s fourth goal opened up a 26-point lead but England relaxed their grip in the last 10 minutes to allow the French some consolation.
Lively replacement hooker Eloi Pelissier darted over for a try and winger Vincent Duport easily rounded Widdop to add a second, with Bosc kicking his third goal.
Chase runs hot for England
Friday 21st October 11
England warmed up for the Gillette Four Nations Series in encouraging fashion by overcoming a gutsy France 32-18 in front of a bumper 16,866 crowd at Parc des Sports in Avignon.
The French, fielding close to the team that lost 38-18 to England Knights seven days earlier, came up with a vastly improved display to give England a useful run-out ahead of their clash with Wales next Saturday.
But Steve McNamara’s side had too much class for their hosts and debutants Jack Reed, Rangi Chase and Chris Heighington all made valuable contributions.
Chase was named man of the match after transferring the silky skills that made him the 2011 Man of Steel on to the international stage while Reed provided the highlight with a thrilling 70-metre try.
McNamara will be irritated by the concession of two late tries that made the score closer than it ought to have been but, overall, there was much to savour about England’s performance, with Kevin Sinfield, Gareth Ellis and James Roby all enhancing their world-class status and Kirk Yeaman making an impressive return to the international scene.
Sinfield, who played the full 80 minutes, set the tone with a 40-20 kick in the first set of tackles to set up the position for Reed to get his winger Ryan Hall over for the first try with just 90 seconds on the clock.
Sinfield looked a likely tryscorer after smart offloads from front rowers James Graham and Jamie Peacock but full-back Cyril Stacul came to the rescue with a last-ditch tackle and the French hit back with their best spell of the match.
A break from debutant centre Mathias Pala signalled danger and established the position from which captain Olivier Elima scored an equalising try, winning the race to Thomas Bosc’s grubber kick despite a suspicion of a knock-on.
Bosc’s conversion edged France in front but he missed a chance to extend their lead when he failed with a penalty while loose forward Jason Baitieri lost the ball going for the line as England were put under intense pressure.
The visitors eventually weathered the storm and took a firm grip on the game with three tries in the last 11 minutes of the first half, with Chase at the heart of the fightback.
The New Zealand-born Castleford Tigers favourite combined with Sam Tomkins to get Yeaman over on 29 minutes and sent out a long pass to enable Yeaman to send his winger Tom Briscoe in shortly afterwards for the first of his brace.
The best try came just before the break when Sinfield got Graham charging into a hole in the French defence and he produced a delightful pass for Roby to touch down.
Sinfield’s second goal made it 20-6 at half-time and any prospect of a comeback by the French was ended when Briscoe grabbed his second try nine minutes into the second half, wrong-footing his marker after more good work from Tomkins.
England brought off Tomkins as a precaution after 50 minutes and replacement full-back Gareth Widdop quickly made his mark, breaking the first line of defence to release Reed, who swatted off two defenders on a superb run to the line.
Sinfield’s fourth goal opened up a 26-point lead but England relaxed their grip in the last 10 minutes to allow the French some consolation.
Lively replacement hooker Eloi Pelissier darted over for a try and winger Vincent Duport easily rounded Widdop to add a second, with Bosc kicking his third goal.
