Rd 10 - WestsTigers v Knights

@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.
 
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359704) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359699) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359686) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359683) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359667) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359642) said:
@speed2burn said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359635) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359618) said:
**Doueihi tries his guts out and almost drags us back in Sunday's game**, meanwhile brooks and Mbye were rubbish and brooks keeps his spot, Mbye gets essentially promoted and Doueihi shifted form his preferred position

That'll really encourage the team ?

That’s all well and good but we were down 18-0 in the first 15 mins last game

I hope we practice tackling this week because it sure as hell doesn’t look like we did any practice in the off season.

Doueihi still played well, a lot better than Mbye and brooks that's for sure. Shifting him to centre has no purpose.

You didn’t read my post did you ?
We’re also trying to offload mbye ..
No point hiding him in the garage like a garage queen .
We need to show he’s the universal soldier of footy to potential suitors.

Winning games is more important...

Not at this stage ..
We ain’t making the 8

If that’s the case we should be giving our youth as much game time as possible. Play Madden in the halves with AD, keep Stef in the side. But instead he keeps Brooks, Tamou, Mbye and all the other plodders. He said in the press conference the senior players were the issue, but he sacked none of them. Madge is all fart and no poo. Absolutely no idea and a complete myth.

He’s showcasing Mbye to potential suitors.
And I’d rather have Mbye in the halves with Madden than with Brooks .
I hoping Brooks gets hooked ..
Save the wrist slitting until after the game .. ? ..it’s only Tuesday!

I don't know how offloading Mbye is going to help us
We would be lucky to get $400,000 for him
Who can we get for that
We had plenty of $ and probably still do
And what elite olayer have we signed
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Something I just considered - maybe Madge playing Doueihi in the halves was about teaching him how to play skillful and faster football. Perhaps he thinks that Doueihi can be one of the best centres in the game, he just needed more game practice with his hands on the ball. If he does what he's been doing at 5/8, but at centre, he could be lethal. It all comes down to whether Mbye can get him the ball.

Remember, Greg Inglis was a 5/8 before he was a centre.
 
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360058) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.

Something has got to give
 
Disappointing team. Only positive is Blore in.

Are we building for the future or are we trying to win now? This team is simultaneously managing to achieve neither.

We're 2 and 7. Admittedly we've had a tough schedule, but I think it's time to call a spade a spade. We're not going to win 10 games and lose only 5 to close the year out. Not with this squad. So let's try and build the best team for the future while being competitive.

Is Mbye our long-term 6? No. Is Doueihi? Quite possibly. A completely nonsensical move.

Why are we keeping Talau on the wing? Is that where we see his future? If we do, then fair enough, he's been adequate. But I don't think it's where he wants to play and I think he's got the skills to be a gun centre. If need be I'd rather run Cini out again and play Talau and Doueihi in the right positions rather than accommodate for Mbye. Sure Cini had a shocker and there's every chance he never ends up first grade standard, but the guy can clearly play well at reserve grade level. He's not going to make 5 errors again and he proved he can do a job vs. the Dragons, so what's there to really lose?

Why was Tamou made captain? I get the logic, but surely there had to be some kind of foresight that we'd be in a situation where not only aren't we competing for the finals, but he's also the weakest link in the pack. We've backed ourselves into a corner which is forcing us to play the oldest and worst player of our props because he's the captain. Poor decision. There's no reason whatsoever for Utoikamanu to not be in first grade given his age and the fact his performances haven't warranted being dropped.

I don't know how after 8 years of terrible performances, Brooks can't be dropped. Josh Papalii was the best prop in the game last year and has been dropped this year. Brooks has been the worst 7 in the game for the best part of 7-8 years and hasn't been dropped from first grade once. It's truly remarkable.
 
@lukic said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360069) said:
Disappointing team. Only positive is Blore in.

Are we building for the future or are we trying to win now? This team is simultaneously managing to achieve neither.

We're 2 and 7. Admittedly we've had a tough schedule, but I think it's time to call a spade a spade. We're not going to win 10 games and lose only 5 to close the year out. Not with this squad. So let's try and build the best team for the future while being competitive.

Is Mbye our long-term 6? No. Is Doueihi? Quite possibly. A completely nonsensical move.

Why are we keeping Talau on the wing? Is that where we see his future? If we do, then fair enough, he's been adequate. But I don't think it's where he wants to play and I think he's got the skills to be a gun centre. If need be I'd rather run Cini out again and play Talau and Doueihi in the right positions rather than accommodate for Mbye. Sure Cini had a shocker and there's every chance he never ends up first grade standard, but the guy can clearly play well at reserve grade level. He's not going to make 5 errors again and he proved he can do a job vs. the Dragons, so what's there to really lose?

Why was Tamou made captain? I get the logic, but surely there had to be some kind of foresight that we'd be in a situation where not only aren't we competing for the finals, but he's also the weakest link in the pack. We've backed ourselves into a corner which is forcing us to play the oldest and worst player of our props because he's the captain. Poor decision. There's no reason whatsoever for Utoikamanu to not be in first grade given his age and the fact his performances haven't warranted being dropped.

I don't know how after 8 years of terrible performances, Brooks can't be dropped. Josh Papalii was the best prop in the game last year and has been dropped this year. Brooks has been the worst 7 in the game for the best part of 7-8 years and hasn't been dropped from first grade once. It's truly remarkable.

Geez I would have loved to watch your reaction when you first saw the team list. Sounds like you are a bit disgruntled. Welcome to the club.

Personally I think Madge is waving the white flag, I think behind closed doors he’s been trying to build a better roster but Wests Tigers in their current iteration just can’t do it. One more flogging and he’ll pack up his things and collect 600K.
 
@cairnstigers said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360060) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359704) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359699) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359686) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359683) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359667) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359642) said:
@speed2burn said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359635) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359618) said:
**Doueihi tries his guts out and almost drags us back in Sunday's game**, meanwhile brooks and Mbye were rubbish and brooks keeps his spot, Mbye gets essentially promoted and Doueihi shifted form his preferred position

That'll really encourage the team ?

That’s all well and good but we were down 18-0 in the first 15 mins last game

I hope we practice tackling this week because it sure as hell doesn’t look like we did any practice in the off season.

Doueihi still played well, a lot better than Mbye and brooks that's for sure. Shifting him to centre has no purpose.

You didn’t read my post did you ?
We’re also trying to offload mbye ..
No point hiding him in the garage like a garage queen .
We need to show he’s the universal soldier of footy to potential suitors.

Winning games is more important...

Not at this stage ..
We ain’t making the 8

If that’s the case we should be giving our youth as much game time as possible. Play Madden in the halves with AD, keep Stef in the side. But instead he keeps Brooks, Tamou, Mbye and all the other plodders. He said in the press conference the senior players were the issue, but he sacked none of them. Madge is all fart and no poo. Absolutely no idea and a complete myth.

He’s showcasing Mbye to potential suitors.
And I’d rather have Mbye in the halves with Madden than with Brooks .
I hoping Brooks gets hooked ..
Save the wrist slitting until after the game .. ? ..it’s only Tuesday!

I don't know how offloading Mbye is going to help us
We would be lucky to get $400,000 for him
Who can we get for that
We had plenty of $ and probably still do
And what elite olayer have we signed
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

According to Twitter his off to a Sydney club next year.
 
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360068) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360058) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.

Something has got to give

Board and ceo have no footy iq. What ever that means.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360076) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360068) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360058) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.

Something has got to give

Board and ceo have no footy iq. What ever that means.

It means no intelligence in rugby league. Blind Freddy could see that Matt Burton is a generational talent yet we don’t even have a sniff. If we did we didn’t make enough noise about it. It’s failure after failure after diabolical failure.
 
@cairnstigers said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360060) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359704) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359699) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359686) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359683) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359667) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359642) said:
@speed2burn said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359635) said:
@jc99 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1359618) said:
**Doueihi tries his guts out and almost drags us back in Sunday's game**, meanwhile brooks and Mbye were rubbish and brooks keeps his spot, Mbye gets essentially promoted and Doueihi shifted form his preferred position

That'll really encourage the team ?

That’s all well and good but we were down 18-0 in the first 15 mins last game

I hope we practice tackling this week because it sure as hell doesn’t look like we did any practice in the off season.

Doueihi still played well, a lot better than Mbye and brooks that's for sure. Shifting him to centre has no purpose.

You didn’t read my post did you ?
We’re also trying to offload mbye ..
No point hiding him in the garage like a garage queen .
We need to show he’s the universal soldier of footy to potential suitors.

Winning games is more important...

Not at this stage ..
We ain’t making the 8

If that’s the case we should be giving our youth as much game time as possible. Play Madden in the halves with AD, keep Stef in the side. But instead he keeps Brooks, Tamou, Mbye and all the other plodders. He said in the press conference the senior players were the issue, but he sacked none of them. Madge is all fart and no poo. Absolutely no idea and a complete myth.

He’s showcasing Mbye to potential suitors.
And I’d rather have Mbye in the halves with Madden than with Brooks .
I hoping Brooks gets hooked ..
Save the wrist slitting until after the game .. ? ..it’s only Tuesday!

I don't know how offloading Mbye is going to help us
We would be lucky to get $400,000 for him
Who can we get for that
We had plenty of $ and probably still do
And what elite olayer have we signed
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Effort post ?
 
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360077) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360076) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360068) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360058) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.

Something has got to give

Board and ceo have no footy iq. What ever that means.

It means no intelligence in rugby league. Blind Freddy could see that Matt Burton is a generational talent yet we don’t even have a sniff. If we did we didn’t make enough noise about it. It’s failure after failure after diabolical failure.

Welcome to the wests tigers
 
@tony-soprano said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360081) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360077) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360076) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360068) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360058) said:
@gallagher said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360055) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360023) said:
Geez the ask the boss segments have dried up. Pascoe busily trying to sell our doco to the comedy channel?

It could be changed to toss the boss before it airs.

I seriously hope so mate, I feel we need some rugby league credibility inside the club. For all I know our bank accounts might look better than they once did but with every loss we become a bigger joke.

Something has got to give

Board and ceo have no footy iq. What ever that means.

It means no intelligence in rugby league. Blind Freddy could see that Matt Burton is a generational talent yet we don’t even have a sniff. If we did we didn’t make enough noise about it. It’s failure after failure after diabolical failure.

Welcome to the wests tigers

Been here from day dot mate. Closer to the exits than the welcome mat
 
So if you believe what Hooper said last night on 360

Our 3 pulling their fingers out are Laurie ,Douehi and Simpkin

One dropped to extended bench ,one moved to the centres

Surely expect changes .....@Geo
 
@happy_tiger said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360085) said:
So if you believe what Hooper said last night on 360

Our 3 pulling their fingers out are Laurie ,Douehi and Simpkin

One dropped to extended bench ,one moved to the centres

Surely expect changes .....@Geo

We’re about to lose the big 3 again 🤣
 
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360073) said:
@lukic said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360069) said:
Disappointing team. Only positive is Blore in.

Are we building for the future or are we trying to win now? This team is simultaneously managing to achieve neither.

We're 2 and 7. Admittedly we've had a tough schedule, but I think it's time to call a spade a spade. We're not going to win 10 games and lose only 5 to close the year out. Not with this squad. So let's try and build the best team for the future while being competitive.

Is Mbye our long-term 6? No. Is Doueihi? Quite possibly. A completely nonsensical move.

Why are we keeping Talau on the wing? Is that where we see his future? If we do, then fair enough, he's been adequate. But I don't think it's where he wants to play and I think he's got the skills to be a gun centre. If need be I'd rather run Cini out again and play Talau and Doueihi in the right positions rather than accommodate for Mbye. Sure Cini had a shocker and there's every chance he never ends up first grade standard, but the guy can clearly play well at reserve grade level. He's not going to make 5 errors again and he proved he can do a job vs. the Dragons, so what's there to really lose?

Why was Tamou made captain? I get the logic, but surely there had to be some kind of foresight that we'd be in a situation where not only aren't we competing for the finals, but he's also the weakest link in the pack. We've backed ourselves into a corner which is forcing us to play the oldest and worst player of our props because he's the captain. Poor decision. There's no reason whatsoever for Utoikamanu to not be in first grade given his age and the fact his performances haven't warranted being dropped.

I don't know how after 8 years of terrible performances, Brooks can't be dropped. Josh Papalii was the best prop in the game last year and has been dropped this year. Brooks has been the worst 7 in the game for the best part of 7-8 years and hasn't been dropped from first grade once. It's truly remarkable.

Geez I would have loved to watch your reaction when you first saw the team list. Sounds like you are a bit disgruntled. Welcome to the club.

Personally I think Madge is waving the white flag, I think behind closed doors he’s been trying to build a better roster but Wests Tigers in their current iteration just can’t do it. One more flogging and he’ll pack up his things and collect 600K.

Supported the team through the Sheens lineup selections. It won't get worse than seeing halfbacks moved to fullback and centres at prop lol.

I tend to agree re: Madge. I think he's happy to cop the sack at this stage and leave while he can blame the club rather than stay for the next 2 years and the cat's out the bag that he's got nothing as a coach.
 
@lukic said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360087) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360073) said:
@lukic said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360069) said:
Disappointing team. Only positive is Blore in.

Are we building for the future or are we trying to win now? This team is simultaneously managing to achieve neither.

We're 2 and 7. Admittedly we've had a tough schedule, but I think it's time to call a spade a spade. We're not going to win 10 games and lose only 5 to close the year out. Not with this squad. So let's try and build the best team for the future while being competitive.

Is Mbye our long-term 6? No. Is Doueihi? Quite possibly. A completely nonsensical move.

Why are we keeping Talau on the wing? Is that where we see his future? If we do, then fair enough, he's been adequate. But I don't think it's where he wants to play and I think he's got the skills to be a gun centre. If need be I'd rather run Cini out again and play Talau and Doueihi in the right positions rather than accommodate for Mbye. Sure Cini had a shocker and there's every chance he never ends up first grade standard, but the guy can clearly play well at reserve grade level. He's not going to make 5 errors again and he proved he can do a job vs. the Dragons, so what's there to really lose?

Why was Tamou made captain? I get the logic, but surely there had to be some kind of foresight that we'd be in a situation where not only aren't we competing for the finals, but he's also the weakest link in the pack. We've backed ourselves into a corner which is forcing us to play the oldest and worst player of our props because he's the captain. Poor decision. There's no reason whatsoever for Utoikamanu to not be in first grade given his age and the fact his performances haven't warranted being dropped.

I don't know how after 8 years of terrible performances, Brooks can't be dropped. Josh Papalii was the best prop in the game last year and has been dropped this year. Brooks has been the worst 7 in the game for the best part of 7-8 years and hasn't been dropped from first grade once. It's truly remarkable.

Geez I would have loved to watch your reaction when you first saw the team list. Sounds like you are a bit disgruntled. Welcome to the club.

Personally I think Madge is waving the white flag, I think behind closed doors he’s been trying to build a better roster but Wests Tigers in their current iteration just can’t do it. One more flogging and he’ll pack up his things and collect 600K.

Supported the team through the Sheens lineup selections. It won't get worse than seeing halfbacks moved to fullback and centres at prop lol.

I tend to agree re: Madge. I think he's happy to cop the sack at this stage and leave while he can blame the club rather than stay for the next 2 years and the cat's out the bag that he's got nothing as a coach.

Yeah I’m not convinced he’s a bad coach, just got a really flaky roster who don’t seem to want it enough. Moments like Garner refusing to dive on a loose ball last week, that’s effort, not coaching.
 
If Madge thinks Douehi inside Nofo will yield us more points fair enough, but how he can justify Brooks and Mbyes kicking games as superior is a mystery greater than the holy trinity. Surely Madden starts for his kicking game.
 
I don't get this side at all. Looks a huge mess to me. Mbye's interview was embarrassing, he has no idea what he's doing at 5/8 and rightly points out that Doueihi has been our best player. As others have said, this is the sort of tinkering that has to work or you get sacked. I don't get replacing Stefano and Simpkin either. Unless his communication has been really good this week, he's punishing the wrong players.
 
@sheer64 said in [Rd 10 \- WestsTigers v Knights](/post/1360096) said:
If Madge thinks Douehi inside Nofo will yield us more points fair enough, but how he can justify Brooks and Mbyes kicking games as superior is a mystery greater than the holy trinity. Surely Madden starts for his kicking game.

And that’s what will happen....sheez we’ve seen it so many times before yet we still believe the Tuesday team sheet...Madge is simply protecting the rookie from the media spotlight in his NRL debut. Madden and Mbye to swap...Douhei would be a good lock in the Angus Crichton mold
 
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