Red flag over Marshall's worth

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Red flags fly over Marshall's worth
By Gregor Paul
10:00 AM Sunday Jul 7, 2013 ✩Save
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Benji Marshall is injury prone and getting old. Photo / Getty Images
Just wait for the incredulous howls when, as will almost certainly happen, the New Zealand Rugby Union refuse to throw any money at Benji Marshall.

They probably won't offer him a bean and, far from suggesting they are out of touch with the professional game, it should be seen as confirmation they know how to handle themselves in a complex market.

The facts are these: Marshall is a 28-year-old NRL star (he will be 29 if/when he makes the move next year) who last played rugby when he was 16\. He has a long, if not recent, history of serious injury and that, plus his age, would make him what the All Blacks call a 'red flag' athlete.

New Zealand already has one of those - he's called Daniel Carter and he's played rugby since he was five; been an IRB Player of the Year twice, almost won 100 caps and will, in all probability, end his career recognised as the best No 10 of all time.

Behind Carter there is Aaron Cruden and Beauden Barrett - two young men who have emerged through the development systems here. How would they feel, having worked as hard as they have over the last few years and having heard consistent messages that they are on the right track, to then see a pile of cash tipped into the pocket of someone who hasn't even played a game of senior club rugby?
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If the Blues want Marshall then they alone will have to pay for him. They are able to offer him $180,000 out of their own pocket. Presumably Marshall will want significantly more than that - and that's when the NZRU will be asked to make a contribution.

So what's Marshall worth to them? They already have the best first-five in world rugby and two others who are test calibre. They know that no matter the skill level of the player, it takes time - quite a bit of time - to learn the art of game management at first receiver. They know that other league converts haven't been able to find their feet at No 10 - Iestyn Harris, Mat Rogers and Henry Paul were tried there but quickly moved.

Marshall is high risk without even being that high a reward. He'll unquestionably help fill seats at Eden Park if he comes, but that's merely another reason for the Blues to fund project Marshall on their own.

There are better things for the NZRU to spend their money on: Jerome Kaino, for starters. Like Marshall he's a risk - but far less of a risk. The All Blacks aren't certain about who their No 6 will be next year and 2015\. Kaino, only having just turned 30 and given his proven ability, has been made an offer that makes returning realistic. It's far less than he currently earns in Japan, but crucially, it is not believed to be way less than what he earned before he left. Benchmarked against his peers, he's been made a fair deal.

This whole business of valuing players not currently playing here will come up again next year when inevitably talks begin to lure Sonny Bill Williams from the NRL. Should he be valued higher than Kaino? Does he carry the same level of risk or less? If Williams returned to New Zealand as one of the highest paid players in the country - would that be fair or unjust?

It's a tricky business but there is at least some confidence the NZRU are getting their heads around it.

- Herald on Sunday

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Interesting article I just found. Makes perfect sence to me. I don't reckon he'll be going anywhere. He simply won't get paid like he does at WT.
 
Probably would be seen as a coup in the same vein that SBW going to RU and Hunt and Folau were going to AFL

could be looked at that way …..
 
I think what Benji has to realise is that he just cannot demand $1m a season at his age/history/form.
The tigers do want to keep him, but not at the expense of losing Brooks and Moses.
The tigers are well advised to allow Benji to go onto the open market… if only to show Benji what his true worth is. Guarentee it is a lot closer to what the tigers value him then any other source.
 
He's hardly injury prone. Infact, in the last five years he has hardly been injured at all. Regardless, number 10 in Rugby has to be a competent kicker in general play and that is certainly Benjis kryptonite
 
Cant see Marshall playing 10 in Rugby… Maybe 15, but definitely not 10.

I dont understand what all the hoo haa is about his pay packet... Any NRL Team other than the Warriors will be paying overs if they are willing to beat the offer the Tigers have put to him. We most likely pay him $300k to play Footy; the rest is his worth off the field due to the name Benji Marshall being synonymous with the Wests Tigers Branding. I dont think his name is that widely used with Rugby League so therefore his worth to other clubs is somewhat less.

It will be a huge loss to the Wests Tigers commercially to lose Benji... I'm sure the club is aware of this and they will put there best offer forward. If Benji isnt happy with this, he needs to make a choice.

At the end of the day, its just business!
 
All this hoopla over benji worth to the tigers is overplayed. We've had him for 10 years and we are broke!!! Does that mean if we didn't have him we'd be extinct?…. I don't think so..sure we had great crowd figures in 2010 -2011 but that's cause the team played well not due to benji

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Why does Benji care soo much about money. I thought he was still the SAME boy from Whakatane. If he truly loves the West Tigers he won't leave due to money and he probably earns heaps from his sponsors and other crap.
 
@Tiger_Al said:
I think what Benji has to realise is that he just cannot demand $1m a season at his age/history/form.
The tigers do want to keep him, but not at the expense of losing Brooks and Moses.
The tigers are well advised to allow Benji to go onto the open market… if only to show Benji what his true worth is. Guarentee it is a lot closer to what the tigers value him then any other source.

I think Benji has to realize that he isn't worth the money he is on at the moment. Expecting more money and a longer term contract is delusional.

I'm also a Benji fan. I can see him signing for a lot less for another 2 years and slowly making way for Brooks and Moses as well as playing much more controlled footy. I think that this would be beneficial for him and the club. The thing is he has to start playing better. He then has to adjust his expectations and start being realistic. I also think he should get rid of his manager.
 
Benji, go test the open market and if you decide to stay aftyer weighing up your options, let your football do the talking. The door is never closed at the West Tigers, but management do not want to be seen as hopeless either. The club also has to continue and players have to be look after.How are we going to progress if we do not have the funds to pay for people that deserved it as we would have spend all the money on those that don't. Management has to look at the big picture, that is to look after every player, not throw all the money at one and nothing to pay for the others.
 

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