Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers

@jirskyr said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350748) said:
@mike said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350531) said:
@jirskyr said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350464) said:
@mike said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350463) said:
@jirskyr said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350460) said:
Whether or not the applications were pushing the boundary of what's acceptable from a Town Planning capacity, I cannot say - I haven't the expertise. **It would be false for most folks to claim they have expertise about what's best for town planning, or what is appropriate for an area.**

The people who live in the area do.

No they don't, they don't by definition have expertise or know what's appropriate. All they have is self-interest and personal preference. Accredited and experienced developers and planners have the expertise. Residents are only interested in what benefits or suits them personally. And I think that's natural, I won't criticise residents for having and wanting a voice. But you don't put together committees of residents to approve development applications, because if you did hardly anything would ever get built anywhere.

Look at Haberfield for example - do you think half those residents wanted the WestConnex to tear through, acquire properties, chop Ramsay Rd in half an introduce two huge tunnels next to Henley Marine Drive? Surely not, but Haberfield has had to shoulder some of the burden on behalf of Sydney as a whole.

The people who live in the area would disagree with you.

Of course they would. Self-interest.


if only Metricon built houses
 
@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350440) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350416) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350415) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350410) said:
@jadtiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350406) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350370) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350362) said:
Interesting Michelle Bishop from SEN radio and chanel 7 just said she had been working on the story since Monday and Dean Ritchie beat her to the story, she did say on air it is a very prominent businessman in the consortium and they want to buy balmain side of merger and talked about making one home (did not say where). Fun times ahead, if wests ashfield want cash good time to sell.

The Balmain side of the business.?
Don't Wests own 90% at the moment?
Either way it's clear that if Benny gets his hands on it it'll revert to being the Balmain Tigers no matter what the official name is.
That'll see me off. Don't think I'll be alone.


The club will never be Balmain Tigers or Western Suburbs Magpies so you need not worry

Agree with that it will never be Balmain or Western suburbs Magpies we will always be wests tigers or we will not exist.

In name you are correct.
However if Benny buys it it will no longer be a joint venture between Wests and Balmain.

It'd be the Benny and his mates Balmain footy club.

The emblem would be an a' hole and the mascot would be a dancing colon.

ok up the Maggie's

Nah. I'm the original Wests Tiger.
Spent my childhood alternating Sundays between Leichhardt Oval and Lidcombe oval.

My point is you can't sell 50% of something you don't own.
I can't sell 50% of your house if I'm only renting your garage.



@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350440) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350416) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350415) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350410) said:
@jadtiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350406) said:
@dwight-schrute said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350370) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350362) said:
Interesting Michelle Bishop from SEN radio and chanel 7 just said she had been working on the story since Monday and Dean Ritchie beat her to the story, she did say on air it is a very prominent businessman in the consortium and they want to buy balmain side of merger and talked about making one home (did not say where). Fun times ahead, if wests ashfield want cash good time to sell.

The Balmain side of the business.?
Don't Wests own 90% at the moment?
Either way it's clear that if Benny gets his hands on it it'll revert to being the Balmain Tigers no matter what the official name is.
That'll see me off. Don't think I'll be alone.


The club will never be Balmain Tigers or Western Suburbs Magpies so you need not worry

Agree with that it will never be Balmain or Western suburbs Magpies we will always be wests tigers or we will not exist.

In name you are correct.
However if Benny buys it it will no longer be a joint venture between Wests and Balmain.

It'd be the Benny and his mates Balmain footy club.

The emblem would be an a' hole and the mascot would be a dancing colon.

ok up the Maggie's

Nah. I'm the original Wests Tiger.
Spent my childhood alternating Sundays between Leichhardt Oval and Lidcombe oval.

My point is you can't sell 50% of something you don't own.
I can't sell 50% of your house if I'm only renting your garage.


Mate you are spot on, Balmain only own 10% so they cant sell 50.5% of the club. Obviously they want to buy 0.5% off Wests as well.
 
@cqtiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350608) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350580) said:
@cqtiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350574) said:
I’d like to know more about the consortium to buy WT’s. The current WT board isn’t working. Period. Still evidence of a leaky ship and I don’t think that will ever change with this board.

Reading posts against it just based on Benny’s name is silly. There would be some very serious people involved with Benny.

Anyway, I can’t see Ashfield selling any time soon.

interesting if WA bought it for 8 and they can sell it for 10 making a 2 million profit as if they wouldn't take a good look

Well if was me I wouldn’t sell when we are at rock bottom, I would sell when we are going much better - I’d get a much better price offered.


So you’d hang on for another 20 years?
 
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin
 
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

you are in the board room of WA are you ??
At least wait for them to reject the offer put to them first nobody knows what that is yet, until that happens next week who knows
never say never
 
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

Tigers are not going to win the comp in 2021 so really not sure why are we even talking about them then ....
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350983) said:
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

you are in the board room of WA are you ??
At least wait for them to reject the offer put to them first nobody knows what that is yet, until that happens next week who knows
never say never


How do you know the offer is being put to them next week - are you part of the consortium? Would explain your passion for getting this off the ground.
 
Why the hate for Benny Elias.

Ok Issac Moses is an idiot. But hey its a relative.
Benny did his job for the Tigers.
Heck ex player comes back to offer us 10 Million. His heart is in the right place.

IMHO we need a Frank Lowy or other figure. Someone who can offer a job to the players unkle to stay.
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350983) said:
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

you are in the board room of WA are you ??
At least wait for them to reject the offer put to them first nobody knows what that is yet, until that happens next week who knows
never say never

They did reject. Read back through the thread
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350985) said:
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

Tigers are not going to win the comp in 2021 so really not sure why are we even talking about them then ....

Don’t get salty
 
@crazycat said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350993) said:
Why the hate for Benny Elias.

Ok Issac Moses is an idiot. But hey its a relative.
Benny did his job for the Tigers.
Heck ex player comes back to offer us 10 Million. His heart is in the right place.

IMHO we need a Frank Lowy or other figure. Someone who can offer a job to the players unkle to stay.


Nothing to do with Isaac Moses. Benny just has the persona of a snake oil salesman. He always comes across as the middle man in any deal that comes up - they are always very secretive except to the media but you never know who is actually fronting the operation. To me he always comes across as the two bit gangster who is always trying to play with the big boys but ends up being the fall guy with a bullet in his back.
 
@crazycat said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350993) said:
Why the hate for Benny Elias.

Ok Issac Moses is an idiot. But hey its a relative.
Benny did his job for the Tigers.
Heck ex player comes back to offer us 10 Million. His heart is in the right place.

IMHO we need a Frank Lowy or other figure. Someone who can offer a job to the players unkle to stay.

Do you know what he allegedly did to Balmain RLFC?
 
@diedpretty said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350986) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350983) said:
@gnr4life said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350972) said:
WA have confirmed they aren’t selling, so not really sure why we’re still talking about it. Sorry Benjamin

you are in the board room of WA are you ??
At least wait for them to reject the offer put to them first nobody knows what that is yet, until that happens next week who knows
never say never


How do you know the offer is being put to them next week - are you part of the consortium? Would explain your passion for getting this off the ground.

your hatred of Elias and anything balmain seems pretty evident
no I am not but they are from all reports meeting next week
 
@tigertownsfs said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350523) said:
@strongee said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350343) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350052) said:
If it gets rid of our board I’m all for it

I was listening to the first and last podcast , and they coached the sg ball team from Wests last year , and they reckon the crap infighting at the lower levels is still going on . Not to mention dinosaurs in powerful positions , still thinking it’s the magpies , and hating on Balmain . And I’d assume vice versa at BJLD.

We need to build an academy at Campbelltown . Have 2 Wests tigers teams run around in Matt’s and ball , comprised of merged players from both districts . An A team and a B team . And Bus the kids out there from Balmain . It’s no different than Manly bussing thier kids in from all over Sydney a few times a week. (It has to be 2 teams as , parents would remove thier kids from both districts if opportunities for rep honours are halved ) .

It would give us a true presence out west , get rid of the really bad management of Wests JRL , at least in a junior pathways sense , and a 1 club identity .
U20s Wests tigers , reserve grade Wests tigers , Ron Massey cup Wests tigers , Matt’s Wests tigers , Sg ball Wests tigers , Tarsha Gale Wests tigers etc)

It would also be much like MLB , that when you got the tap on the shoulder to go to the NRL training (which would probably be the reserve grade team as well ) it would be a pathway as well , and a pursuit that kids could see . Ie. the Bus to concord , or training at concord .

I always thought the Wests side of the merger were far too attached to the magpie , even though they got the name . It’s ridiculous really , as neither Balmain nor the magpies are EVER coming back .
There’s a guy who was on the rugby league digest , talking about Wests and how he could never support the tigers , because nobody chants “Wests” at games ? Like what the hell ? He’s my age . Mid 30s . In 2000 I was a teenager . I’ve been supporting Wests longer than I have Balmain . Anybody who thinks like this needs to be removed from the club . I’m not saying disregarding the history , but rather holding onto it like it’s a badge of honour .
Otherwise if we can’t do that , we should just move to Perth . Seriously . Wests Magpies are dead sorry. Nobody cares under 35. Balmain Tigers are dead . Nobody cares under 30. And they’re the ones who will take the club into the future . My son would follow us , if we were good . He’s 7 . He doesn’t want to go and watch his dads team lose all the time . He said his team is the panthers , cause his friend said they win all the time and are the best .

Sorry about the rant , but I’m so over this garbage .

I was pretty shocked listening to the West’s podcast regarding the vitriol to west’s tigers. I googled him and he is a mad Storm supporter apparently which was concerning because he has/had a senior role in the Western Suburbs junior rugby league club unless I’m mistaken

Are you talking about Gobbs?
 
@gallagher said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350326) said:
@curaeus said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1350322) said:
Leaving aside people's views on Benny's involvement in the proposal , this might all come down to what Wests with their reputed 90% stake in WT, and the NRL who would have to approve any change to private ownership actually think of the idea. Wests might want to sell down their stake or even sell out completely. That said, there's no guarantee this deal would necessarily improve our prospects. Might, might not.

Its interesting. I'm not sure what Wests Ashfield get out of owning the tigers. There's no match day revenue for the club, no real association brand wise.

If it's true that the 50.5% share they're after is worth 8-10 million to the seller, might be very hard for Wests Ashfield to say no to any genuine offer from the Elias group. Of course, you only go after more than 50% if you intend to take control. Not sure what remains "in it" for the then minority shareholder Wests Ashfield.
 
People have short memories or the interested party isn't Australian.
He destroyed the Balmain football club and lost all its assets. Ended up being sold for $1.
Due diligence surely will expose the truth and the consortium will part ways with him.

I remember him claiming big yearly salary whilst we were being driven into the ground.
Even got a 10% stake in the sale of the site.

Benny isn't in it for us but himself.
 
@coastie_tiger said in [Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers](/post/1351170) said:
Im a former Balmain fan and dont want Elias anywhere near this club he's a charlatan.

Absolutely. If Benny told me the sun was going to rise tomorrow, I'd want to check with an independent third party.
 
with Elias having his fingers on this,the whole idea is LUDICRISE,a short statement of no thanks from LeeHap is more than enough
 

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