Revealed: Secret bid to buy battling Tigers

[pawsandclaws1]

So someone in between the Coach and Board.

Perhaps Delegate more football related matters to Hartigan and more business related matters to Pascoe.

 

[BZN]

If anyone has the stomach to listen to him... https://twitter.com/FOXNRL/status/1389873816525058049?s=19

Scratched nose at 43 seconds when talking about passion for tigers don’t believe him.

Rubbed nose at 43 seconds due to nose growing pains.

You can also tell that is lying because his lips are moving.

:rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing: :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
Brilliant post @hank37w
I can see we can learn heaps re body language from you :+1:

 

[cochise]

So someone in between the Coach and Board.

Perhaps Delegate more football related matters to Hartigan and more business related matters to Pascoe.

Pretty much how it works now.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So someone in between the Coach and Board.

Perhaps Delegate more football related matters to Hartigan and more business related matters to Pascoe.

Pretty much how it works now.

Are there functions/delegations which could be done at those levels rather than the Board.

His view on Maguire is mmmmm.

 

[balmain boy]

I would be nervous if Elias consortium bought 100% of the club but no problem with 50.5%

Not sure you understand business. If he has 50.5% he has complete control of the club and can do whatever he wants. You don't need 100% ownership to do that.

The only difference is there would be talks with the other Directors but if each party stuck to their voting lines the consortium would win every time.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

I would be nervous if Elias consortium bought 100% of the club but no problem with 50.5%

Not sure you understand business. If he has 50.5% he has complete control of the club and can do whatever he wants. You don't need 100% ownership to do that.

The only difference is there would be talks with the other Directors but if each party stuck to their voting lines the consortium would win every time.

if the deal went sour in the years to come wests ashfield may be willing to buy back the remaining 50.5% that is what I was meaning.
But I get it the consortium must be bad

 

[BZN]

The only people who think this is a good idea are the same type of people who complain about a Tommy specific jersey (WHy nOt A PaNaSonIc) and think all games should be played out of LO.

Benny is not the Balmain saviour. Balmain will never play in the NRL ( The same can be said about Western Suburbs). Say what you want about the Board but considering Balmain's financial issues, I think they have been extremely fair.

How anyone can be advocating for this shows the lengths people will go to just to change a emblem. This club will never progress with this attitude. As a united fan base, everyone should have concerns about Benny being anywhere near the club.

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[Jedi_Tiger]

The only people who think this is a good idea are the same type of people who complain about a Tommy specific jersey (WHy nOt A PaNaSonIc) and think all games should be played out of LO.

Benny is not the Balmain saviour. Balmain will never play in the NRL ( The same can be said about Western Suburbs). Say what you want about the Board but considering Balmain's financial issues, I think they have been extremely fair.

How anyone can be advocating for this shows the lengths people will go to just to change a emblem. This club will never progress with this attitude. As a united fan base, everyone should have concerns about Benny being anywhere near the club.

except tigerbalm used Panasonic rather than Phillips, good to be clever but get it right first

 

[BZN]

The only people who think this is a good idea are the same type of people who complain about a Tommy specific jersey (WHy nOt A PaNaSonIc) and think all games should be played out of LO.

Benny is not the Balmain saviour. Balmain will never play in the NRL ( The same can be said about Western Suburbs). Say what you want about the Board but considering Balmain's financial issues, I think they have been extremely fair.

How anyone can be advocating for this shows the lengths people will go to just to change a emblem. This club will never progress with this attitude. As a united fan base, everyone should have concerns about Benny being anywhere near the club.

except tigerbalm used Panasonic rather than Phillips, good to be clever but get it right first

Wow!!! You've really come out of the shadows and revealed yourself havent you.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

The only people who think this is a good idea are the same type of people who complain about a Tommy specific jersey (WHy nOt A PaNaSonIc) and think all games should be played out of LO.

Benny is not the Balmain saviour. Balmain will never play in the NRL ( The same can be said about Western Suburbs). Say what you want about the Board but considering Balmain's financial issues, I think they have been extremely fair.

How anyone can be advocating for this shows the lengths people will go to just to change a emblem. This club will never progress with this attitude. As a united fan base, everyone should have concerns about Benny being anywhere near the club.

except tigerbalm used Panasonic rather than Phillips, good to be clever but get it right first

Wow!!! You've really come out of the shadows and revealed yourself havent you.

just be factual that's all it's not Panasonic
nobody is changing emblems or bringing balmain back regardless of who owns them

 

[Crucible]

As a rusted on old Balmainite, I very clearly remember the night that the Leagues Club was sold. It was that night ,that i realised what a bunch of dopes the members of Rozelle were. The clincher was when one of the Directors went on about how Benny would get us a better deal than Meriton. Many of us walked out in disgust. Two things i would add. The Wests Ashfield Directors appear not to be as gullible as the old Balmain Directors were (hence the deal has no chance) and if Benny has anything to do with it...... RUN.

 

[Furious1]

**Had to be patient for a decade’: Tigers legend in bold bid to buy embattled club**

Mark St John - May 6, 2021 6:16am
Source: FOX SPORTS

Tigers legend Benny Elias has put in an offer to buy his beloved club in the hope of restoring the joint venture to its former glory after a sustained period of failure.

The Tigers are on track to miss the finals for the 10th straight season, which is the longest drought in the NRL and Elias believes he can make a difference.

“Sitting in the background of the Tigers vs the Titans is a former player by the name of Ben Elias potentially pitching up to buy the club,” Ikin asked Elias on NRL 360.

“Look Benny a lot has been speculated with what has been happening,” Elias replied.

“I had the joy actually the real pleasure yesterday of spending a few hours with Rick Wayde and Simon Cook who is the CEO of the Wests Ashfield Tigers who own 90 per cent of the club.

**Great photo -117**

“Look they are very strong and I spent a lot of time looking at the background and the infrastructure and reasonings.

“If you are a Tigers supporter out there you are in good stead just be very patient. They have had to be patient now for almost a decade because we haven’t made the top eight.

“But what is going on in the background are the small things which I think moving forward they are going to be a real strong club.”

Ikin persisted in pushing Elias on his reasons for buying the club.

“Why are you buying the club?” Ikin said.

“It is a passion,” Elias said.

“It is not a business decision by any stretch of the imagination.

“There is no money in any clubs. There is no profit made with the Wests Tigers. It is break even and you have had a good year.

“Look it has always been a passion and I think if you can contribute something back to the game you think it could be very beneficial.

“The love of my life was the Tigers. Always has been and always will be.

“We have put an offer to the boys yesterday. A lot of it will be confidential before the meeting next Tuesday when they make a decision.

“If so all well and good, but if not I’m a million per cent behind the club because I love them and what they are doing is terrific.”

Paul Kent pressed Elias on where he thinks he could make a difference and what areas the club needed to improve in.

“What would you go in there and fix?” Kent asked.

“I think the relationship between the board and the football management and the coach in particular. I think the relationship between that area is a little bit grey.

“You have got to be accountable. The coach has always got to be accountable and I love Madge. “I had lunch with the Madge and CEO Justin Pascoe just a few weeks ago and it was very positive and they have got it all right, but I just think you have got to be accountable for all your actions.

“Madge is struggling at 2-8 and the coach and the club need someone in between there to bolster it up.

Elias scored 36 tries in 233 games for the Tigers from 1982 to 1994.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-benny-elias-bid-to-buy-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-justin-pascoe-simon-cook-rick-wayde/news-story/54bb368dd2f90daad88f2d1c50fc0b1d

"It's not a business decision it's a passion" - is code for Money Laundering 101. It doesn't pass the ATO test. There are no profits in clubs? A good year is break-even? So yeah, Benny has a bunch of investors lining up to throw good passionate money at the possibility of breaking even. Duh?

I watched him speak on NRL360 - honestly, he was fumbling around, saying lots with little substance.

My question remains, what does private ownership bring to the club? Do they want to change the business model of the club to make it more profitable? Do they think they can attract more sponsorship? Will they invest in more juniors? Does he want to move the team to Perth?

**I haven't heard him present his case as to why this is a good move for the club...that scares me.**..

Didn't he do that with Wests Ashfield yesterday? You just have to trust the Board will make the right decisions in the best interest of Wests Tigers i guess.

 

[Tigerstruck]

**Had to be patient for a decade’: Tigers legend in bold bid to buy embattled club**

Mark St John - May 6, 2021 6:16am
Source: FOX SPORTS

Tigers legend Benny Elias has put in an offer to buy his beloved club in the hope of restoring the joint venture to its former glory after a sustained period of failure.

The Tigers are on track to miss the finals for the 10th straight season, which is the longest drought in the NRL and Elias believes he can make a difference.

“Sitting in the background of the Tigers vs the Titans is a former player by the name of Ben Elias potentially pitching up to buy the club,” Ikin asked Elias on NRL 360.

“Look Benny a lot has been speculated with what has been happening,” Elias replied.

“I had the joy actually the real pleasure yesterday of spending a few hours with Rick Wayde and Simon Cook who is the CEO of the Wests Ashfield Tigers who own 90 per cent of the club.

**Great photo -117**

“Look they are very strong and I spent a lot of time looking at the background and the infrastructure and reasonings.

“If you are a Tigers supporter out there you are in good stead just be very patient. They have had to be patient now for almost a decade because we haven’t made the top eight.

“But what is going on in the background are the small things which I think moving forward they are going to be a real strong club.”

Ikin persisted in pushing Elias on his reasons for buying the club.

“Why are you buying the club?” Ikin said.

“It is a passion,” Elias said.

“It is not a business decision by any stretch of the imagination.

“There is no money in any clubs. There is no profit made with the Wests Tigers. It is break even and you have had a good year.

“Look it has always been a passion and I think if you can contribute something back to the game you think it could be very beneficial.

“The love of my life was the Tigers. Always has been and always will be.

“We have put an offer to the boys yesterday. A lot of it will be confidential before the meeting next Tuesday when they make a decision.

“If so all well and good, but if not I’m a million per cent behind the club because I love them and what they are doing is terrific.”

Paul Kent pressed Elias on where he thinks he could make a difference and what areas the club needed to improve in.

“What would you go in there and fix?” Kent asked.

“I think the relationship between the board and the football management and the coach in particular. I think the relationship between that area is a little bit grey.

“You have got to be accountable. The coach has always got to be accountable and I love Madge. “I had lunch with the Madge and CEO Justin Pascoe just a few weeks ago and it was very positive and they have got it all right, but I just think you have got to be accountable for all your actions.

“Madge is struggling at 2-8 and the coach and the club need someone in between there to bolster it up.

Elias scored 36 tries in 233 games for the Tigers from 1982 to 1994.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-benny-elias-bid-to-buy-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-justin-pascoe-simon-cook-rick-wayde/news-story/54bb368dd2f90daad88f2d1c50fc0b1d

I'm sure no one cares but that was written so poorly it was difficult to read. Why would you include "look..." in each of the quotes or "Look Benny..." in reference to Ben Ikin. Adds nothing to the story. How on earth do these people get a job at Foxsports.

"Wests Ashfield Tigers"

Brilliantly researched article as well

 

[Twodogs]

If it gets rid of our board I’m all for it


Have you seen the disaster that is on Victoria Road and has been for years? You wouldn't want Elias having control of anything to do with Wests Tigers.

I have but I’ve also seen the disaster on parramatta road, and I think it’s worse.


Do you mean Concord? If so you have to be kidding. It will be a place for elite athletes and occupied by the Wests Tigers. The buildings are progressing well and within a short period of time of it being announced. The exact opposite to what Elias has had a hand in on Victoria Road.

I was referring to administration rather than the physical structure.

Still better than anything Elias touches.

Not sure I agree with that. I think it would be impossible to do worse than what our current ownership/board have done.

I don't. I whinge a lot about our current board and structure but it is infinitely better than anything associated with Elias. Be careful what you wish for, it could be much, much worse.

It couldn’t be worse. It’s impossible.

You lack imagination.

 

[weststigers]

**Had to be patient for a decade’: Tigers legend in bold bid to buy embattled club**

Mark St John - May 6, 2021 6:16am
Source: FOX SPORTS

Tigers legend Benny Elias has put in an offer to buy his beloved club in the hope of restoring the joint venture to its former glory after a sustained period of failure.

The Tigers are on track to miss the finals for the 10th straight season, which is the longest drought in the NRL and Elias believes he can make a difference.

“Sitting in the background of the Tigers vs the Titans is a former player by the name of Ben Elias potentially pitching up to buy the club,” Ikin asked Elias on NRL 360.

“Look Benny a lot has been speculated with what has been happening,” Elias replied.

“I had the joy actually the real pleasure yesterday of spending a few hours with Rick Wayde and Simon Cook who is the CEO of the Wests Ashfield Tigers who own 90 per cent of the club.

**Great photo -117**

“Look they are very strong and I spent a lot of time looking at the background and the infrastructure and reasonings.

“If you are a Tigers supporter out there you are in good stead just be very patient. They have had to be patient now for almost a decade because we haven’t made the top eight.

“But what is going on in the background are the small things which I think moving forward they are going to be a real strong club.”

Ikin persisted in pushing Elias on his reasons for buying the club.

“Why are you buying the club?” Ikin said.

“It is a passion,” Elias said.

“It is not a business decision by any stretch of the imagination.

“There is no money in any clubs. There is no profit made with the Wests Tigers. It is break even and you have had a good year.

“Look it has always been a passion and I think if you can contribute something back to the game you think it could be very beneficial.

“The love of my life was the Tigers. Always has been and always will be.

“We have put an offer to the boys yesterday. A lot of it will be confidential before the meeting next Tuesday when they make a decision.

“If so all well and good, but if not I’m a million per cent behind the club because I love them and what they are doing is terrific.”

Paul Kent pressed Elias on where he thinks he could make a difference and what areas the club needed to improve in.

“What would you go in there and fix?” Kent asked.

“I think the relationship between the board and the football management and the coach in particular. I think the relationship between that area is a little bit grey.

“You have got to be accountable. The coach has always got to be accountable and I love Madge. “I had lunch with the Madge and CEO Justin Pascoe just a few weeks ago and it was very positive and they have got it all right, but I just think you have got to be accountable for all your actions.

“Madge is struggling at 2-8 and the coach and the club need someone in between there to bolster it up.

Elias scored 36 tries in 233 games for the Tigers from 1982 to 1994.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-benny-elias-bid-to-buy-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-justin-pascoe-simon-cook-rick-wayde/news-story/54bb368dd2f90daad88f2d1c50fc0b1d

"It's not a business decision it's a passion" - is code for Money Laundering 101. It doesn't pass the ATO test. There are no profits in clubs? A good year is break-even? So yeah, Benny has a bunch of investors lining up to throw good passionate money at the possibility of breaking even. Duh?

I watched him speak on NRL360 - honestly, he was fumbling around, saying lots with little substance.

My question remains, what does private ownership bring to the club? Do they want to change the business model of the club to make it more profitable? Do they think they can attract more sponsorship? Will they invest in more juniors? Does he want to move the team to Perth?

**I haven't heard him present his case as to why this is a good move for the club...that scares me.**..

Didn't he do that with Wests Ashfield yesterday? You just have to trust the Board will make the right decisions in the best interest of Wests Tigers i guess.

I don't trust the board at all.

 

[Twodogs]

The only bloke on the planet i trust less than Elias would be Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.He is the equal of Scott Morrison when it comes to accountability and trustworthiness,a man only in it for himself a complete fraud

I think Shorten beats them to that mantle

Let's not be partisan here.

Elias beats both.

 

[diedpretty]

I would be nervous if Elias consortium bought 100% of the club but no problem with 50.5%

Not sure you understand business. If he has 50.5% he has complete control of the club and can do whatever he wants. You don't need 100% ownership to do that.

The only difference is there would be talks with the other Directors but if each party stuck to their voting lines the consortium would win every time.

if the deal went sour in the years to come wests ashfield may be willing to buy back the remaining 50.5% that is what I was meaning.
But I get it the consortium must be bad

With your reckoning why would they - you suggest that they might sell if they are not interested in running a football club. Then why would they buy it back if it went pear shaped.

 

[innsaneink]

The only people who think this is a good idea are the same type of people who complain about a Tommy specific jersey (WHy nOt A PaNaSonIc) and think all games should be played out of LO.

Benny is not the Balmain saviour. Balmain will never play in the NRL ( The same can be said about Western Suburbs). Say what you want about the Board but considering Balmain's financial issues, I think they have been extremely fair.

How anyone can be advocating for this shows the lengths people will go to just to change a emblem. This club will never progress with this attitude. As a united fan base, everyone should have concerns about Benny being anywhere near the club.

if you are going to be smart at least get the jersey sponsor right, Phillips

Smart?

One 'L'


 

[izotope]

**Had to be patient for a decade’: Tigers legend in bold bid to buy embattled club**

Mark St John - May 6, 2021 6:16am
Source: FOX SPORTS

Tigers legend Benny Elias has put in an offer to buy his beloved club in the hope of restoring the joint venture to its former glory after a sustained period of failure.

The Tigers are on track to miss the finals for the 10th straight season, which is the longest drought in the NRL and Elias believes he can make a difference.

“Sitting in the background of the Tigers vs the Titans is a former player by the name of Ben Elias potentially pitching up to buy the club,” Ikin asked Elias on NRL 360.

“Look Benny a lot has been speculated with what has been happening,” Elias replied.

“I had the joy actually the real pleasure yesterday of spending a few hours with Rick Wayde and Simon Cook who is the CEO of the Wests Ashfield Tigers who own 90 per cent of the club.

**Great photo -117**

“Look they are very strong and I spent a lot of time looking at the background and the infrastructure and reasonings.

“If you are a Tigers supporter out there you are in good stead just be very patient. They have had to be patient now for almost a decade because we haven’t made the top eight.

“But what is going on in the background are the small things which I think moving forward they are going to be a real strong club.”

Ikin persisted in pushing Elias on his reasons for buying the club.

“Why are you buying the club?” Ikin said.

“It is a passion,” Elias said.

“It is not a business decision by any stretch of the imagination.

“There is no money in any clubs. There is no profit made with the Wests Tigers. It is break even and you have had a good year.

“Look it has always been a passion and I think if you can contribute something back to the game you think it could be very beneficial.

“The love of my life was the Tigers. Always has been and always will be.

“We have put an offer to the boys yesterday. A lot of it will be confidential before the meeting next Tuesday when they make a decision.

“If so all well and good, but if not I’m a million per cent behind the club because I love them and what they are doing is terrific.”

Paul Kent pressed Elias on where he thinks he could make a difference and what areas the club needed to improve in.

“What would you go in there and fix?” Kent asked.

“I think the relationship between the board and the football management and the coach in particular. I think the relationship between that area is a little bit grey.

“You have got to be accountable. The coach has always got to be accountable and I love Madge. “I had lunch with the Madge and CEO Justin Pascoe just a few weeks ago and it was very positive and they have got it all right, but I just think you have got to be accountable for all your actions.

“Madge is struggling at 2-8 and the coach and the club need someone in between there to bolster it up.

Elias scored 36 tries in 233 games for the Tigers from 1982 to 1994.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2021-benny-elias-bid-to-buy-wests-tigers-michael-maguire-justin-pascoe-simon-cook-rick-wayde/news-story/54bb368dd2f90daad88f2d1c50fc0b1d

"It's not a business decision it's a passion" - is code for Money Laundering 101. It doesn't pass the ATO test. There are no profits in clubs? A good year is break-even? So yeah, Benny has a bunch of investors lining up to throw good passionate money at the possibility of breaking even. Duh?

I watched him speak on NRL360 - honestly, he was fumbling around, saying lots with little substance.

My question remains, what does private ownership bring to the club? Do they want to change the business model of the club to make it more profitable? Do they think they can attract more sponsorship? Will they invest in more juniors? Does he want to move the team to Perth?

I haven't heard him present his case as to why this is a good move for the club...that scares me...

He had no good answers, im surpised he had backing by anyone.

Said the club is 100% in fantastic shape
Then they asked what would you change
His answer was "not much communication between board and club" surely those comments wouldn't help his deal in any case.

Should of gone with a more generic answer of Fresh Ideas, New set of eyes

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

The only bloke on the planet i trust less than Elias would be Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.He is the equal of Scott Morrison when it comes to accountability and trustworthiness,a man only in it for himself a complete fraud

Bbbut . . . Donald improved America's economic situation. Benny played a large part in making the Balmain Tigers extinct.