Revised structure key to Tigers' prosperity, says Trodden

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Revised structure key to Tigers' prosperity, says Trodden
December 18, 2012
Glenn Jackson - SMH
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OUTGOING Wests Tigers chairman David Trodden believes the sooner the joint-venture club is no longer referred to as just that - a joint-venture club - the more the club can prosper.

Having stepped aside from the Tigers chairmanship last Thursday night, Trodden said he believed the club needed to ''revisit'' its current structure.

''I don't see the joint-venture structure as a structure for the long term,'' Trodden said. ''I certainly think it's time for the organisation to revisit its structure and to think about what the best structure would be to take the organisation to that next level. At some point of the joint venture, you have to get to a point where the joint-venture structure is not the most appropriate structure to take you forward.

''We now have one State Cup team, rather than two. For Wests Tigers to take that next step in its evolution, the club needs to concentrate on things they have in common, rather than the things which split them. [And] in order to take that next step, you probably need somebody who is not identified with things which happened in the past.''

Despite operating as a joint-venture for 13 years, Wests Tigers remains mired in political infighting between Balmain and Western Suburbs. That was illustrated by a Western Suburbs RLFC extraordinary general meeting on Saturday at which a motion was passed to attempt to field a separate Magpies team in the NSW Cup next season. The motion prevailed despite the rich Wests Ashfield leagues club having stated it would only fund a Magpies squad in the third-tier Bundy Cup competition next year. The Wests Ashfield board will now consider the proposal, but will more than likely reject it.

While Trodden's decision to stand down after eight years as the alternate chairman came before that motion, it is that sort of political environment that contributed to his decision. He has been known to be frustrated that he has been unable to carry out the sort of change he hopes for, due to the conflicted forces involved in the club.

Trodden, who will likely step aside from his role as chairman of the powerful NRL club council, has been alternating chairman for the past eight years, as part of an ongoing agreement between the two joint-venture parties. For now, he will be replaced by Balmain Tigers nominee Nick DiGirolamo, before the Wests nominee, expected to be Mike Bailey, takes the chair.

Trodden, the chairman of Balmain RLFC, also made it clear he believed the club would be better served dispensing with the alternate chairmanship system in the future.

''It does make it difficult, in terms of public perception,'' Trodden said. ''It creates a perception of lack of unity in the joint venture, whether that's the fact of the matter or not.''

Trodden said he believed Wests Tigers had a ''hugely positive future''. But it would be more likely ''without the politics of the merger, which may have at different stages in the past constrained it a bit'', he said. ''We play the most attractive football in the NRL, have arguably the greatest personality players in the NRL, and have a fantastic supporter base. The opportunities for Wests Tigers are limitless, and properly managed, they have a really exciting future.

''I am passionate and I will remain passionate about both the sport and our club, and I see nothing but good things for both. But I genuinely believe that you have an obligation … you go into these positions and you do your best, and once you've had a crack, you move over and let somebody else do the same thing. It's unhealthy for someone at an organisation to stay there, year after year after year, and doesn't bring any more energy or vitality or new ideas.''
 
Well said. Time everyone starts looking to the future of OUR club. We'll always have Balmain or Wests in our blood, that can't be taken away, but the future is as one, and it's about time all of us take a look at the big picture.
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@tigertye said:
Well said. Time everyone starts looking to the future of OUR club. We'll always have Balmain or Wests in our blood, that can't be taken away, but the future is as one, and it's about time all of us take a look at the big picture.
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Most people see the big picture tigertye, unfortunately there is the occasional narrow-minded dinosaur still roaming around who can't see past Balmain or Wests. Hopefully those days are nearing an end.
 
"OUTGOING Wests Tigers chairman David Trodden believes the sooner the joint-venture club is no longer referred to as just that - a joint-venture club - the more the club can prosper."

The sooner EVERYONE embraces David Trodden's belief's the better off we'll be.
 
A move from JV to club will occur one day i am sure, but who exactly will own the club?
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Agree 100% with David Trodden here.

I think the only split we should now have is SG Ball & H Matthews… and that is really only because it gives us a wider net to catch the young talent.
 
I say merge the whole lot including the juniors - and even re-brand the leagues clubs.

We are either married or we aren't - time to move forward together as one.
 
@wtfl1981 said:
A move from JV to club will occur one day i am sure, but who exactly will own the club?
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The members, especially once the football operations are self sufficient financially
 
I agree with the comments made here but as i have already posted there are forces at work,both in the Wests side of the merger and the NRL/ARL Commission to have a Team permanently playing out of Greater Western Sydney ie. Campbelltown.Whether its 5 years away or 10 i just hope Balmain stays involved and the Tiger remains as the emblem.
 
@helmesy said:
I say merge the whole lot including the juniors - and even re-brand the leagues clubs.

We are either married or we aren't - time to move forward together as one.

Surely you don't expect 15-17 yr olds to travel between Campbelltown and Leichhardt, training for these junior rep teams. Besides the travel issue political influences will rule with a majority of players from one or the other. The junior rep teams will always have to be local to be fair to the kids who deserve their opportunity.
 
Hello…........elephant in the room.

There is only one side of the venture holding us back....guess!
 
@willow said:
''I don't see the joint-venture structure as a structure for the long term,'' Trodden said. ''I certainly think it's time for the organisation to revisit its structure and to think about what the best structure would be to take the organisation to that next level. At some point of the joint venture, you have to get to a point where the joint-venture structure is not the most appropriate structure to take you forward.

Reads like an opening position in a negotiation discussion.
 
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@helmesy said:
I say merge the whole lot including the juniors - and even re-brand the leagues clubs.

We are either married or we aren't - time to move forward together as one.

Surely you don't expect 15-17 yr olds to travel between Campbelltown and Leichhardt, training for these junior rep teams. Besides the travel issue political influences will rule with a majority of players from one or the other. The junior rep teams will always have to be local to be fair to the kids who deserve their opportunity.

I'm sure we can work something out that overcomes that problem, even if we maintain the existing junior league structures. My point was more everyone playing under the one banner, one common purpose and one goal.
 
@helmesy said:
I'm sure we can work something out that overcomes that problem, even if we maintain the existing junior league structures. My point was more everyone playing under the one banner, one common purpose and one goal.

I thought they did operate under one banner? The Western Suburbs teams have the Wests Tigers logo on their sleeve. The path is clear for the juniors to see. Don't we also have the Wests Tigers cubs?

I also don't understand why we would merge the Harold Matthews and SG Ball teams. Having two sets of juniors in separate geographical areas is one of our key & unique strengths. Can understand ensuring the administration structure is as efficient as possible, but keep the two streams of juniors up to under 18's.

Agree on the leagues club name change
 
I reckon separate SG Ball and HM teams is an advantage, would be counter productive to merge at that level.

As it stands we have 3 distinct "catchments" (Balmain, Wests, Keebra) filtering in to our NYC, all 3 seem to be contributing nicely and approximately evenly, once coupled with a solid junior recruitment policy, we have had a pretty good flow of talent into the club.
 
@wtfl1981 said:
A move from JV to club will occur one day i am sure, but who exactly will own the club?
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As long as it is not someone like Nathan Tinkler or John Singleton who only last as long as the winds are blowing in their preferred direction. As soon as the going gets tough they turn to water. So unlike the Tigers/Magpies spirit.
 
This article highlights Trodden's push for WT to become a new club before Balmain goes under and control of Balmain's 50% is bought out (most likely) by Ashfield.

A magpies Bundy cup side has NO financial impact on WT. changing from a JV to a merged entity. The WT now have a unified nsw cup team and a pathway from juniors to nrl…

The real reason why trodden wants a merged club is so that it relieves Balmain's obligation as half owner to contribute to the JV that it is currently struggling to do so.
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Trodden speaks the truth.

We are being held back by people who are stuck in the past, the sad thing is they seem to revel in being known as a dinosaur. The time has come to get on board, or get out.
 

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