Right and Wrong 2021

crazycat

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Just wanted to post what people were right and wrong about in 2021. Not meant to be a flame war and self reflective.
What signings worked, which did not.
 
A few come to mind:
Josh Mansour 100% nothing signing for Souths.
Benji Marshall, clearly added something too Souths attack.

James Tamou, expected big fire from this guy and for him to lead our pack. Got an Average performance, hopefully better in 2022.

Loosing Paul Momo was a big mistake. Would have been better to trade James Roberts.
 
@tilllindemann said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519156) said:
Pretty sure I predicted Roberts and Leilua would be an awesome centre pairing haha.

Yeah, similar here and also willing to put my hand up. Happy enough though on Roberts with little opportunity and dollars. Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

Stefano was a big right, along with bringing big Ken over mid-season, whilst Tamou was bland, leading towards a wrong with his head as much still at the base of the mountains as Concord..
 
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519155) said:
A few come to mind:
Josh Mansour 100% nothing signing for Souths.
Benji Marshall, clearly added something too Souths attack.

James Tamou, expected big fire from this guy and for him to lead our pack. Got an Average performance, hopefully better in 2022.

Loosing Paul Momo was a big mistake. Would have been better to trade James Roberts.

Do you think Penrith would have traded Laurie for roberts?
 
Nothing good from us. I know everyone rates Laurie as a star but I’m pretty meh about him. The only shining light was Stefano imo. Outside of that, AD tries hard and plays with heart, but his injury is a huge setback. Signing Pap and Api obviously are huge steps forward.
 
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519155) said:
A few come to mind:
Josh Mansour 100% nothing signing for Souths.
Benji Marshall, clearly added something too Souths attack.

James Tamou, expected big fire from this guy and for him to lead our pack. Got an Average performance, hopefully better in 2022.

Loosing Paul Momo was a big mistake. Would have been better to trade James Roberts.

Benji was average TBH. Hung on a year too long IMO. Tamou was a letdown, wasn't expecting huge things from him on the field but his role as a leader looked pretty pathetic (from an outsiders POV with what little insight we get as supporters). Our club more than anything needs leaders, hoping that Hastings at least provides that regardless of how he plays on-field: speaks a few home truths and kicks some blokes in the arse. I want to see some passion, pride and grit out of our team
 
"We win 43-41 after Brooks kicks a 40m 2 pt field goal from the sideline on 1 knee to break the deadlock in the 80th minute having been poleaxed by NAS . Post-game he apologised that his last tackle kick options had been woeful - he was actually trying to set up Douehi on the goal line but mistimed the shot and the field goal ensued."
Predicting the GF Victory over Melbourne was oh soo WRONGSKI!
 
What went wrong?
The poor leadership in the team and how it set the team backwards, and made it easier for team collapses.
The right?
We showed some fight in us on occasion.
The next generation of players show some huge drive and competitiveness.
 
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.
 
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519197) said:
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.

We had Hodgson - was he used as the FB coach?
 
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519198) said:
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519197) said:
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.

We had Hodgson - was he used as the FB coach?

Pretty sure Hodgson was in England coaching an NRL equivalent reserve grade team in 2021. Could be wrong - Could be a new Covid variant playing tricks with my brain -OhmyGodacon!
 
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519197) said:
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.

Even if he did drive around in a Panthers jersey celebrating their GF victory.

That aside, it must be remembered Daine came here as a rookie and has already been our best at the back since Tedesco departed. Displaying a decent all-round game in his first (nearly) full season after only a couple of runs filling in there prior to arriving at WT.

It felt so safe when the ball was in the air with Doueihi there last year, but sadly that strength couldn't make up for inadequacies, particularly a lack of pace in cover which Laurie possesses.
 
@leichhardttiger said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519202) said:
@inbenjiwetrust said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519198) said:
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519197) said:
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.

We had Hodgson - was he used as the FB coach?

Pretty sure Hodgson was in England coaching an NRL equivalent reserve grade team in 2021. Could be wrong - Could be a new Covid variant playing tricks with my brain -OhmyGodacon!

Yep Hodgson went back to England.


@inbenjiwetrust said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519198) said:
@crazycat said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519197) said:
@formerguest said in [Right and Wrong 2021](/post/1519159) said:
Same with letting Momorovski go to get Laurie who was definitely a right for 2021.

I, yea. I agree but feel so mixed about this.
Laurie has his heart in the tigers and for that alone its the right decision.

Yet Laurie is a short guy playing Fullback. He has a stack of talent but no real mentor in this position. Something said of Billy Slater, he did a stack in defense for Melbourne and we have seen fullbacks plug that defensive gap.

That defensive knowledge is missing in Laurie.
It can be trained, just dont know if Laurie is capiable enough. He is great and a clear try machine but i dont know how he will pick up the defensive side of the role.

That being said, he has tiger blood in his veins.

We had Hodgson - was he used as the FB coach?

Yep he went back to England.

IMHO, I miss the way he plays and I miss Pat Richards.

Both players were Unique and I think if particularly Pat Richards could impart his tricks it would be brillant.
 
Benji, added so much depth and experience to the Souths halves. Knew how to win big games due to his valuable experience.
Daine Laurie, was a big highlight or me, enjoyed every moment of him. Will only get better
James Tamou was a disappointment for me tbh.
Hope he changes his ways.
 
WRONG - Lacked leadership. Someone to fight and demand the best from everyone else. Someone leading from the front. IMO, this simple fact exacerbates every other issue we have, from Brooks through to pathetic defence at times.

RIGHT - Shutting down or identifying (somewhat) the leaks, having a board affirm their support for the coach and identifying he needed help to do his thing, and ignoring the media crap around that. Externally, the CoE and our financial position. Identifying.

Some might say I'm crazy but a small fine tune could see us go from 13th to 5th. I honesty think there is much to build on.
 
WRONG - the documentary. Maybe do it when we have the COE built and we're constant finalists. We were just setting ourselves up to be laughed at.
Playing home games at Parra stadium. And playing at multiple grounds. We need one home ground.
The change of logo. Removed the best part of the one it replaced.
Missed the finals and thus provided more ammo for the media to death ride us again next year.

RIGHT - the signings of Laurie, AD, Stef (and Api, Pap for '23).
The COE being close to completion.
Not bowing to media pressure and sacking Madge. Even if he's not the right coach, we've been through too many and needed the stability of keeping him.
Letting Benji go. He played his bit part perfectly at Souths, with the necessary defenders around him so that he didn't have to. Whilst it was sad to see him go, if he stayed it would've been another year of frustration.
Getting a few of the bad contracts off our books and not signing up to many future (bad) ones. Hoping Mbye finds something at the Dragons.
Signed a few more corporate sponsors. Seems to be a lot of support for a team that hasn't played finals in a while.
Getting Sheensy back on board.
 
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