Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
It's not the first time that Brooks and Moses have played with Cherrington on the field, nothing dramatic has been seen on most of those times.
Are you sure your rusted on hatred of anything Farah does, isn't clouding your judgement.
Cherrington will eventually be our first grade hooker, but if you think he can handle it full time , you are kidding yourself.
Apart from that fact, The team cannot cover Another weak defender while Both the halves are together. We need to buy some forwards who can tackle and hurt, before bringing in another target, he needs another year and a lot of defence work.
Unfortunately we have no one here apparently, who has any success with coaching defence, so it's time we got someone in.

Someone critiques Farah's game and that means you have hatred for him. Sorry, I don't hate the guy and my judgement is fine.
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To put it another way, before last weekend I thought Brooks was an average halfback. A glorified distributor of the ball that kicked on the last. I then saw a glimpse of his abilities when Cherrington came onto the field. Handling 4/6 times in each set, running to the line, flat bullet passes placing players in holes

Farah then comes on the field and Brooks is back to handling the ball 2/6 times per set with 1 of those occasions to put the bomb up. It was pretty stark to me.

Yes, we need players in the middle of the ruck for defence. I am sure we will recruit someone, it's not insurmountable nor a reason why we must keep Farah.
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Must have missed his first game Gary
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
What a load of agenda driven rubbish.

You can not be serious blaming Farah for Brooks having an average year.

This thread should be wound up….
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Agenda? What the hell does that mean?

The answer is no, I do not blame Farah. Brooks just looks a much better player with quick service from dummy half.
 
@lathami said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
It's not the first time that Brooks and Moses have played with Cherrington on the field, nothing dramatic has been seen on most of those times.
Are you sure your rusted on hatred of anything Farah does, isn't clouding your judgement.
Cherrington will eventually be our first grade hooker, but if you think he can handle it full time , you are kidding yourself.
Apart from that fact, The team cannot cover Another weak defender while Both the halves are together. We need to buy some forwards who can tackle and hurt, before bringing in another target, he needs another year and a lot of defence work.
Unfortunately we have no one here apparently, who has any success with coaching defence, so it's time we got someone in.

Someone critiques Farah's game and that means you have hatred for him. Sorry, I don't hate the guy and my judgement is fine.
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To put it another way, before last weekend I thought Brooks was an average halfback. A glorified distributor of the ball that kicked on the last. I then saw a glimpse of his abilities when Cherrington came onto the field. Handling 4/6 times in each set, running to the line, flat bullet passes placing players in holes.

Farah then comes on the field and Brooks is back to handling the ball 2/6 times per set with 1 of those occasions to put the bomb up. It was pretty stark to me.

Yes, we need players in the middle of the ruck for defence. I am sure we will recruit someone, it's not insurmountable nor a reason why we must keep Farah.

Typical simplistic view of a nobody!
Just pick attack to base your argument. What a pile of crap.
He is a speed bump, worst defender in the team behind Moses. His body type will take years to develop. The club already know he is to small, they have been trying to get his size up, NOT WORKING!!
It will take time, stop picking one piece of the argument to try to win. It's a weak statagy!
Ohh yer, just buy agood defender inside him, that s been easy for us so far.
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Some halves take time to improve their defence

Allan Langer , Johnathan Thurston ,Sterling to name a few

They have to work out what works for them and what doesn't

My only issue with Brooks is sometimes he doesn't appear to put his body on the line or maybe its more that his body isn't in the best position when attempting to make a tackle
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Must have missed his first gam Gary

Who's first game?

Brooks!

No, I saw it. He had a blinder. Farah is the one that missed Brooks' first match…

http://afltables.com/rl/scorers/games/2013/201308242931.html

Oops....there's me pushing an "agenda" again.
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Thats gold! !!! Nice way to prove Gary's point GCT.
Lol
 
I was really impressed with some of the Saints guys coming up to Robbie after our narrow loss and pretty obviously showing him support. Dugan (his Origin team mate) and Benji especially! I wish the Dragons well in their finals game/s.
 
I dont exactly know how Robbie will end up or where,however,if he moves on I think a change of scenery will benefit him in the long run…
He still is a very good player and if he adapts to the gameplans of a new club,I think he has a lot to offer,he has to learn to compromise,for the benefit of the team and club....
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
Must have missed his first gam Gary

Who's first game?

Brooks!

No, I saw it. He had a blinder. Farah is the one that missed Brooks' first match…

http://afltables.com/rl/scorers/games/2013/201308242931.html

Oops....there's me pushing an "agenda" again.
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I know, So did cherrington, actually the hooker was probably our worst hooker in a long time. Luani.
So he doesn't need a particular hookerto play well, as that was his best game yet
No ones knocking Cherrington. It's just that he's not ready for Firsts full time
Don't know we have this obsession of trying to push kids too far , too soon.
And sorry Gallagher, you jumped in just a little too soon , it's nice to see you having a little chuckle all the same
 
Nice to see this topic take a back seat to the real news, the finals series, as expected. Have hardly seen it in the papers all week?

re Knights wanting to take Farah, I can't see how that works for them, they have at least 2 really good young hooker options, with a 3rd behind them. I think Clydesdale and Levi are impressive, as Cherrington is, and I would not be hiring an older head unless you were prepared to keep those two guys in the wings another 2-3 years.
 
@fibrodreaming said:
@batboy said:
@tig_prmz said:
@innsaneink said:
I love how people use the term pay cut… When in reality it's probably more apt to say they loaned the club some money for a few years.
He'll be paid in full

that's a terrible example.

he could've used the 400K and invested it in his restaurant, property, given to his family etc. he didn't have to loan it to the WT. however, he CHOSE to invest it in the WT hoping he could stay a one club man and possibly win a premiership here.

agree with the first sentence though- it's definitely not a pay cut and he'll be paid in full regardless of what happens.

AND he could have tested the market for his "real" value… Which based on his form the last 3 years, Would be no where the money he has been getting.

We are the only club that thought Farah is worth 1mil a year.

Benji banging on about taking a pay cut to help the club and all....
Call Martin Tauber and ask him if Benji is making as much at the Dragons this year and last as he would have if he had stayed and saw out his contract with us?

I very much doubt it, We were overpaying him as well....

I don't think anyone is suggesting Robbie is worth the amounts he is contracted to receive in the last two years of his contract.

The interview with former WT chairman Nick Di Girolamo makes it clear that Robbie was owed “a lot of money” by the club before he signed his current contract. Presumably the only explanation for this is that Robbie took pay cuts on his previous contract to help with the salary cap. Benji hinted at this on NRL360.

The club's solution was to pay the amounts owed at the back end of his current contract. As a consequence, the large amounts he is set to receive over the next two years is the sum of his market rate as a player plus the amounts owed from the previous contract.

This explains why the club ignored Potter's advice to offer Robbie a two year contract only. The club couldn't pay Robbie the market rate for his services plus the amounts owing in the first two years of his contract. It would have blown the salary cap.

For the club to find itself in this predicament is an example of financial mismanagement of the highest order.

Robbie would almost have certainly been advised by his manager (who seems like a sharp operator) when he signed the current contract, that to defer large payments for at least three years would mean he is financially disadvantaged, (because he could invest the amounts owed and made a good return).

Perhaps Robbie made the financial sacrifice because it would mean that he could stay with the WT for the remainder of his career. (I'm only speculating.)

Whatever our views about whether Robbie should stay or go, the point remains that he took a financial hit for the club and this should be recognised.
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Think you missed my point, My point is he wouldn't and won't get what we're giving him anywhere else. So whilst he took a pay reduction to get at a later time, He was also overpaid up until said reduction and is currently still overpaid.
He isn't Cameron Smith and shouldn't be getting paid like him…
 
Sorry batboy, crap comparison.
Cameron is one a salary cap cheat, two has top quality players around him always ie; state of origin, cronk, slater, inglis, belamy, etc, etc.
Hardly fair comparison to our young side and the crap rejects we have not to mention our great coach!!!
Farah has out played Cameron when they play each other at club level, more times than I can remember. Cameron smith has a very high opinion of Farah, it was probably his comments that got Farah picked for SOO.
Also when Farah signed the contract he was playing at that level, so not fair to compare the last few seasons when Taylor has instructed him to not play his normal game.
 
And furthermore….
I have mentioned it prior - But the only fans that rate him is Tiger Fans....

Everyone else hates him.

If Cam Smith was off contract tomorrow, There would be minimum 6 Clubs clearing the decks at the drop of a dime for him.
Farah has been outed for a month or more and there's no bites...
 
Batboy, Gallagher and Co

You've demonstrated marvellous restraint on this issue. Why don't you get down to camp concord and have a Farah effigy burning?
 
@batboy said:
And furthermore….
I have mentioned it prior - But the only fans that rate him is Tiger Fans....

Everyone else hates him.

If Cam Smith was off contract tomorrow, There would be minimum 6 Clubs clearing the decks at the drop of a dime for him.
Farah has been outed for a month or more and there's no bites...
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The harsh truth. Taking nothing away from what he's done on the field, but he'd be on of the most disliked players to opposition fans. Some just can't see outside the Wests Tigers universe, so that's impossible to fathom. That's not a criticism of the guy, just a plain fact.
 
- Not just fans…
Players, Officials, Coaches...

I don't mind Farah too much, But I really don't get all the Kafuffle...
Yeah, He can play hooker - But so can a heap of other people...

We have been also rans for that long, That I am numb. He's got the tap on the shoulder (Like a thousand club legends before him) and it's time. There's no point arguing....

At some point everyone gets a dose of reality...
- Did he honestly think he was gonna keep playing at that level for that money with that attitude for as long as he desired?
Even now, He says "IF" I go, It will be on my terms...

News flash Faffy.
- No it won't. The people who run the company will make that decision... Not you.
 
Just to clarify my last post. Because i know there are many who get very sensitive and protective of Robbie, and any comment you make about him that has negative connotations means you hate his guts, so i just want to make what i'm saying come across a little clearer.

Every team in the comp has certain players the opposition doesn't like, even us. Yes, i know that's hard to believe but its true. There actually are players in our side that people look at the same way people here would look at Steve Matai, Michael Ennis, Justin Hodges, or any other player who are only liked by their teams fans. Over the yrs, i've found that Farah has been one of those players. Doesn't mean i've liked him any less, but i haven't always looked at him through Black, White and Orange glasses either.
 
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