Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Tigerspirit]

Gee whiz, stumbled across this archived LU forum post from the time of Taylor's sacking at Souths. The allegations - I stress allegations - in the opening post suggesting Taylor getting his coach(es) sacked, his power struggles with the coaches and even his reaction to getting punted to reserve grade sound shockingly familiar.

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/archive/index.php/t-201388.html

(Mods, hope it's ok to post this link - apologies if I've broken any rules)

Great Stumble!!!
That Adamkungle sounds like GnR and littletiger!!!

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[goldcoast_tiger]

Gee whiz, stumbled across this archived LU forum post from the time of Taylor's sacking at Souths. The allegations - I stress allegations - in the opening post suggesting Taylor getting his coach(es) sacked, his power struggles with the coaches and even his reaction to getting punted to reserve grade sound shockingly familiar.

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/archive/index.php/t-201388.html

(Mods, hope it's ok to post this link - apologies if I've broken any rules)

Did someone mention karma??

 

[sober_siddhi]

I just edited my last post with a correction. The linked post was actually a year and a half before his sacking at Souths.

Let's all remember this is one person's unsubstantiated opinion - pretty damning if true though!

 

[Pawsandclaws]

That's gold!

 

[bobo125]

i wonder if Taylor thought about his future prospects when he was throwing urine over a crowd at the cricket…..

i wonder if taylor was thinking about his future prospects when he instigated the incident at souths mad monday.....

its just me ...i dont think its obvious at all actually.

Fair enough bobo. I assume by your reply that you are in ghost's camp that "JT is mad".

Based on your examples, you seem to believe that JT is somehow divorced from reality. That he doesn't understand that his actions today have consequences in the future; that he suffers some sort of disconnect from his actions.

He doesn't understand, for example, that it is critical for his future as a coach that the WT have success in the immediate future and, despite this knowledge, he punts Robbie anyway, even though he knows that Robbie's presence is crucial to future success.

This is a sign of madness indeed, I agree!

I must confess, when the anti-JT crowd resort to psychoanalysis to justify their attacks, I am inclined to be skeptical.

(For the record, as I mentioned earlier, I am not supporting JT or condemning him. Time will tell.)

mate to be honest im not really in anyone's camp per sae.
ive tried to look at it from the outside and my feelings towards the incident are such that, regardless of who the player is, i believe the way in which this has come to the fore has been lacking class from the organisation as a whole.

As for JT, they've been comments that "he surely would know better" and again, from the outside i think you do need to look at how someone has carried himself to get an idea of the person.
im certainly not anti JT.
i just do not believe he is a good match for the young tigers team and unfortunately from everything we have seen his way so far has not really worked.

everything else is just over zealous antics from all of us trying to decide whether the law applies to footballers and or who runs the nut house lol ! !

 

[gallagher]

Taylor was at norths in 94\. He left the magpies in 93\. Ryan got sacked by Wests in 94\. I doubt very much that while taylor was at norths he got wests to sack Ryan.

 

[Geo]

Now I really think he should go.

Robbie and his manager have dragged this out in the media

Sam Ayoub leaked it in the first place to Dean Ritchie
They put the reserve grade piece out thier
Robbie & Sam talked about it every chance they have had
Robbie has had his mates tweeting and talking about it in the media

Look at other cases where a player leaves contracts early - Look at even our own club this year Keith Galloway who has been with the club for years and 170 games was given the same permission to negotiate and he did and did in quietly like a professional, like an adult and like every other player does except Robbie Farah and DCE and both are clearly dickheads

Robbie is managed by Slimy Sam Ayoub - You know the bloke who was Ryan Tandy's manager and whose own son was involved in the betting controversy and where Sam was arrested, same Sam Ayoub who is good mates with John Ellias perhaos the dodgiest bloke in the history of Rugby League

Robbie has had the advantage of being able to talk publicaly about this when the club couldn't really say much because firstly they are trying to be professional and not be dickheads like Robbie and Sam

I respect what Farah did for the club on the field but lets be honest he has now had 2 coaches sacked and is trying for a 3rd. He needs to go from this club and if we have to pay him to play reserve grade or even pay him to not turn up at our club at all then so be it

A lot of great players have him as their manager. Robbie, Tedesco, Soward, Ferguson, Tamu, Mason, Milford, Thurston, etc. You might not like him, but he's a smart operator, good at what he does and is second to none in his profession.


 

[boonboon]

Quote here from Graeme Pringle on facebook -" you need to know two things. CEOs are not on a club's board. And secondly, you talk about a board salary cap. Well mate, board members are not paid a single cent to do a very tough job. Not a cent, buddy. Repeat after me, the CEO runs the club, the board looks after the governance. The board did NOT make the decision to offload Farah. This was decided by the whole coaching staff, not just one person. The board promised Jason Taylor full control over who plays for the club and they're sticking to that promise, as difficult as it has been lately. In the past we've had weak-as-piss boards and that's why the club has been in a mess. This board is strong, they are about to announce our biggest ever sponsorship today and, I repeat so you get it Daniel, they are not paid a cent for all their efforts."

For those wondering what some guy called Graeme Pringle would know about it - He is Marina Go's partner

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

And that's about what they deserve in this case

 

[rialto]

Wasn't Taylor nominated for coach of the year when he took Parramatta from second last to the finals after taking over from Brian Smith half way through the season? I think they had something like 9 straight wins ? Some commentators I believe said they would have continued their spectacular run if they had not simply run out of forwards. - all injured I think.

 

[Masterton]

Taylor was at norths in 94\. He left the magpies in 93\. Ryan got sacked by Wests in 94\. I doubt very much that while taylor was at norths he got wests to sack Ryan.

True, but he certainly kicked up a stink when he was dropped and was thought by many sources to have undermined Ryan in 93\. I have an old RLW here, with the front cover saying "Magpies At War". Here's a quote from Taylor in it.

"The press came up with some interesting reasons why I wanted to leave, but I prefer to keep most of them to myself because they have been pretty well resolved. One reason, however, was I thought our style of play was too restrictive, too structured and by the end of the year, very predictable. I wasn't the only player to think that way."

Does that sound familiar?

 

[gallagher]

Taylor was at norths in 94\. He left the magpies in 93\. Ryan got sacked by Wests in 94\. I doubt very much that while taylor was at norths he got wests to sack Ryan.

True, but he certainly kicked up a stink when he was dropped and was thought by many sources to have undermined Ryan in 93\. I have an old RLW here, with the front cover saying "Magpies At War". Here's a quote from Taylor in it.

"The press came up with some interesting reasons why I wanted to leave, but I prefer to keep most of them to myself because they have been pretty well resolved. One reason, however, was I thought our style of play was too restrictive, too structured and by the end of the year, very predictable. I wasn't the only player to think that way."

Does that sound familiar?

Sounds spot on Masterton. Not doubting Taylor and Ryan didn't get on and probably why taylor left wests. I'd say Ryan got punted for onfield results rather than taylor getting him sacked. It would be like saying Benji had a hand in getting potter sacked

 

[Strider]

Wasn't Taylor nominated for coach of the year when he took Parramatta from second last to the finals after taking over from Brian Smith half way through the season? I think they had something like 9 straight wins ? Some commentators I believe said they would have continued their spectacular run if they had not simply run out of forwards. - all injured I think.

Because Hayne plane was unstoppable.

 

[rialto]

So Taylor got Hayne firing.

 

[hobbo]

So Taylor got Hayne firing.

No , Hayne threw Taylors game plan out the window !

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[Masterton]

Hayne was pretty good in his first season, but any team that has to replace Cayless & Fui with Josh Cordoba & Chad Robinson will struggle.

 

[Tigermama]

If any other club in Sydney was interested in signing Robbie (Souths, Bulldogs, Parra, Penrith) i'd say he would've left and this would all be over.

The fact that for Robbie to move on would require him to move overseas and give up his origin jersey, something he is very passionate about and pockets him $100,000 a year means he is going to dig his heels in.

Why on earth would he give up everything he is so passionate about, move to a whole new country to ply his trade just because someone feels they can't work with him.

Who can honestly say they would do that ? That is what he means by it has to be done on his own terms.

He isn't just going to pack up, leave his family and friends, give up his origin jersey and the added $100,000 and just move to a whole new country to make the people who punted him happy.

He might be stubborn, he might be well past his best, he might be arrogant, he might be hard to work with BUT despite any of these character traits, no one can expect him to change his whole lifestyle to make anyone happy, let alone the people sacking him.

Spot on Tony. You just hit the nail on the head .

 

[rialto]

Obviously hobbo 2803 you got that info straight from the horses mouth.

 

[rialto]

I thought Robbie said he would only go to a club that could win a premiership? I can certainly understand him not wanting to go overseas. What about Newcastle?

 

[Tigermama]

He's already said at least twice now that there's no problem with Taylor , from his side, and he can work with him without a problem .
The first time I heard that was at the presser , after the Warriors game, And he was sitting right next to Taylor when he said it. What more does he have to say.
No need to say that Taylor looked straight ahead and said nothing, so who's not interested in reconciling????

Robbie does say a lot of things to get his own way. It was his camp who leaked this despite asking for commercial in confidence to occur through the process until things broke down.

People on this board have their views and will believe what they want.

My view is Robbie is a huge reason why we are in this mess because of his undermining and wanting to have everything his own way. He knows the Balmain side will always support him hence Harry now involved.

In what business does a sponsor get involved to decide who is or isn't on the roster unless the club asks them too? That alone shows undermined mentality and direction of how things are running whilst highlights how much work this club needs to do to start leading rather than listening to everyone's opinion on things.

Clear structure, roles, performance metrics followed by reviews are required and the only way to start this is clean out the dead wood and start fresh.

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Apparently Rugby League teams. Perhaps you should call Harry and convey your disapproval that he's getting/got involved . As his opinion in his interview was that it's "silly "to let our best players go. I would suspect that he may have a different view to the coach and the board, but all I know is what was in his interview, but he's certainly involved or getting involved.

And if the CEO and board are serious they would be telling him to stay out of player management matters.

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People that are rich, have a lot of power and influence, TW. Money can buy cooperation and influence what is done or how it is done.
And we all know old Harry is loaded… :mrgreen: