Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Tigermama]

A look back to 2009\. Read with interest.

Mark Ellison was popular with Souths players. Taylor was not. Taylor sacked him but Ellison was
re-hired by John Lang who took over from Taylor. Ellison is now Football Manager under Maguire. What do we make of that? Taylor was under pressure and there was a rumour of a player revolt. Read between the lines.
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The Rovere Report
Written by: Adrian Rovere
June 18th 2009 12:16 AM

JASON NOT TAILOR-MADE FOR COACHING

If there is a coach whose "under the pump" more than Jason Taylor at South Sydney than I'd like to know who. For the quality of the roster, the Rabbitohs are the most under-performing team in the competition and the head coach should be held accountable.

The combination of curious selections and even more curious match tactics, has severely dimmed the confidence of Souths' supporters who went into the season feeling their side were genuine title contenders after solid recruitments over the off-season and the bonus of picking up star backrower Michael Crocker.

Former player and radio personality Peter Tunks has been highly critical of Taylor's coaching methods and calls from Souths' fans to his show, Talkin Sport on 2SM, suggests the ground swell of discontent is growing by the week.

Tunks says the suprise sacking of assistant coach Mark Ellison - considered part of the fabric at the Rabbitohs - was he felt an indication that Taylor was unwilling to take ownership for his team's poor performances and a style of play which the former Test prop says badly lacking in imagination.

Souths' "tragic" Darren, a regular caller to the Talkin Sport program who travels to games as far away as Townsville, has been another vocal critic of Taylor's handling of his beloved club.

With a forward talent full of internationals and a backline boasting both speed and talent, anything less than a semi-final's berth and it can be considered a failed season by the Rabbitohs leaving many questions to be asked of the club.

And the one at the top of the list should be:- "Is Jason Taylor the coach who can bring us a premiership within the next two years?

If the team misses out on the Top Eight, it won't by just Peter Tunks and Darren whose unequiviocal answer to that question will be a definitive "no'.
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now im not saying anything about the current captain…. im just saying....wow dosnt this scenario seem similar ?

Wow… It's like going back in time, only it's WT they're talking about this time. :astonished:

 

[cktiger]

And if the CEO and board are serious they would be telling him to stay out of player management matters.

hahahaha, id actually think that most of the people on the board are in awe of harry or are simply just scared to death of their careers in their real worlds.
you dont tell a billionaire - regardless of anything - to mind your own business. lol.

ROFL if you think Harry has never been told no, he is wrong that he would react that way and have people running scared of him you have no idea. He doesn't have a business which has a high employee rating by running business affairs that way.

See that's the difference between you and people who are high up in business involved in multi million/billion dollar enterprises is that board members are paid to direct the business in the best way to deliver outcomes. That's what they are paid to do, direct the business accordingly, not direct the sponsors and take on the sponsors advice on player retention/recruitment.

**People say no all the time to CEOs and large business men** it's not unusual, and people in doing so **often keep their job and opportunities afterwards.**

If anything it would be wise for Harry to not meddle in the business given his comments of wanting to increase his sponsorship stake some weeks ago given the NRL have an invested stake in our club currently. Harry is smarter than that and luckily so are those now leading the club.

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Yeah , they keep their jobs for a few weeks and have plenty of opportunities after that. :laughing:

 

[Tigermama]

i wonder if Taylor thought about his future prospects when he was throwing urine over a crowd at the cricket…..

i wonder if taylor was thinking about his future prospects when he instigated the incident at souths mad monday.....

its just me ...i dont think its obvious at all actually.

Eww, yuck. Todd Carney comes to mind. 😱pen_mouth:

 

[Tigermama]

So Taylor got Hayne firing.

No , Hayne threw Taylors game plan out the window !

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:laughing:

 

[Strider]

I can imagine JT pulling his hair out when Hayne was carving it up adlib.

 

[WestsSupporter]

Pretty sure Daniel Anderson was Parra coach in 2009?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Pretty sure Daniel Anderson was Parra coach in 2009?

Correct, people are confusing 06 with 09.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If the quote about Graeme Pringle (if it really was him) is correct we now have Marina's husband leaking information from the board. How unprofessional is this??
Oh well our leaks should be more accurate from now.
Looks like we go to Facebook for our board announcements in future.
It continues to spiral downward.

 

[NT_Tiger]

If the quote about Graeme Pringle is correct we now have Marina's husband leaking information from the board. How unprofessional is this??
Oh well our leaks should be more accurate from now.
Looks like we go to Facebook for our board announcements in future.
It continues to spiral downward.

What quote is this GCT?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

If the quote about Graeme Pringle is correct we now have Marina's husband leaking information from the board. How unprofessional is this??
Oh well our leaks should be more accurate from now.
Looks like we go to Facebook for our board announcements in future.
It continues to spiral downward.

What quote is this GCT?

Boonboon 2 posted it on the previous page.NT

 

[innsaneink]

Quote here from Graeme Pringle on facebook -" you need to know two things. CEOs are not on a club's board. And secondly, you talk about a board salary cap. Well mate, board members are not paid a single cent to do a very tough job. Not a cent, buddy. Repeat after me, the CEO runs the club, the board looks after the governance. The board did NOT make the decision to offload Farah. This was decided by the whole coaching staff, not just one person. The board promised Jason Taylor full control over who plays for the club and they're sticking to that promise, as difficult as it has been lately. In the past we've had weak-as-piss boards and that's why the club has been in a mess. This board is strong, they are about to announce our biggest ever sponsorship today and, I repeat so you get it Daniel, they are not paid a cent for all their efforts."

For those wondering what some guy called Graeme Pringle would know about it - He is Marina Go's partner

Found it NT

 

[innsaneink]

Not good at all

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Is anyone really surprised? This club is a disease. If you spend enough time in an insane asylum you'll soon be a patient.

 

[gallagher]

Pretty sure Daniel Anderson was Parra coach in 2009?

Yeah mate. Taylor wasnt at parra in 09 or at wests in 94\. Facts are few and far between in here.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

hahahaha, id actually think that most of the people on the board are in awe of harry or are simply just scared to death of their careers in their real worlds.
you dont tell a billionaire - regardless of anything - to mind your own business. lol.

Yes you can. David Smith did it two weeks ago.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Taylor was at norths in 94\. He left the magpies in 93\. Ryan got sacked by Wests in 94\. I doubt very much that while taylor was at norths he got wests to sack Ryan.

True, but he certainly kicked up a stink when he was dropped and was thought by many sources to have undermined Ryan in 93\. I have an old RLW here, with the front cover saying "Magpies At War". Here's a quote from Taylor in it.

"The press came up with some interesting reasons why I wanted to leave, but I prefer to keep most of them to myself because they have been pretty well resolved. One reason, however, was I thought our style of play was too restrictive, too structured and by the end of the year, very predictable. I wasn't the only player to think that way."

Does that sound familiar?

Perhaps look up what occurred between Warren Ryan and Steve Mortimer to get some further context.

 

[Granto87]

hahahaha, id actually think that most of the people on the board are in awe of harry or are simply just scared to death of their careers in their real worlds.
you dont tell a billionaire - regardless of anything - to mind your own business. lol.

Yes you can. David Smith did it two weeks ago.

Where did you hear this mate

 

[tig_prmz]

Rupert Murdoch

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[Granto87]

Rupert Murdoch

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Ohh i get thanks, thought he ment told HT lol

 

[barra]

Taylor was at norths in 94\. He left the magpies in 93\. Ryan got sacked by Wests in 94\. I doubt very much that while taylor was at norths he got wests to sack Ryan.

True, but he certainly kicked up a stink when he was dropped and was thought by many sources to have undermined Ryan in 93\. I have an old RLW here, with the front cover saying "Magpies At War". Here's a quote from Taylor in it.

"The press came up with some interesting reasons why I wanted to leave, but I prefer to keep most of them to myself because they have been pretty well resolved. One reason, however, was I thought our style of play was too restrictive, too structured and by the end of the year, very predictable. I wasn't the only player to think that way."

Does that sound familiar?

Sounds spot on Masterton. Not doubting Taylor and Ryan didn't get on and probably why taylor left wests. I'd say Ryan got punted for onfield results rather than taylor getting him sacked. It would be like saying Benji had a hand in getting potter sacked

True Gallagher, Ryan and Taylor started off having a very close and respectful relationship, and at the time Ryan was even quoted as saying that Taylor was the smartest player he had ever coached (they even used to drive to the games together).

But it did end up in a massive falling-out which is not unusual when you have two head-strong characters trying to work together.