Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[goldcoast_tiger]


Player manager Sam Ayoub, right, leaves Campsie police station in Sydney's west with his lawyer after being charged.

Was he convicted of anything. ??

Just interested.

No one know??????

Ryan Tandy may have been a good person to ask had he survived the trauma of being thrown under the bus.

You were in the courtroom and have all the facts then ???
Pity the court didn't ask you about it. He's had all charges dropped. End of story, of course except for here.

 

[stevetiger]

Agree with this comment. JT should be doing better with this squad regardless.

I honestly feel that this is the biggest issue. If Robbie goes it might be better for us however I don't like the way it has been handled. The big issue though is JT has been an outright dud.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Like CGT, I cannot believe the club is now facing the possibility of at best an uncertain outcome in the court and all the humiliation and poor publicity that comes with it. Has anyone considered the possibility of team mates providing statements and evidence in support of Farah?

Has anyone considered the possibility that the "reasons aired at the meeting by Taylor were based on hearsay and lacked corroboration" was because the sources of that hearsay were other WT players that didn't want to be named at the time? I suppose we'll find out if it goes to court.

How is it going to court?
The club have consistently said that they will honour Farah's contract.

He can't sue the club because he's the best paid reserve grader in history lol.

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Read this article. If you believe this behaviour is part of the new "professionalism" in the club then it is a very sad reflection on the values of those who have treated Farah in this manner.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/farah-row-nrl-and-players-association-should-not-tolerate-situation-20150827-gj8wdi.html

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Have I missed something? The Tigers have said they will pay Farah his contract, so whats to go to court over?

Because apparently Robbie has it written into his contract that he MUST play first grade. But if that isn't a good enough excuse, apparently some he said, she said comment that was made at a private meeting saying Farah will play NSW next yr wil be. Apparently courts rule on hearsay now.

ok so that's what I've missed, thanks.

Is that definite? Who gets that written into a contract? Crazy.

I have seen a clause that identifies if the player isnt considered for NRL for a period of 6 weeks they can request a release. This was a few years back, so it is possible some player managers have escalated it to new levels?

Hearsay evidence is only when you hear the comment from someone else.
The reserve grade threat was made at the meeting that Robbie and Ayoub attended.
That's not hearsay.
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Clubs would be crazy to agree to such a clause, but I wouldnt be surprised if they did.

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[goldcoast_tiger]

Have I missed something? The Tigers have said they will pay Farah his contract, so whats to go to court over? Obviously we are trying to not pay him if at all possible, but at the end of the day if a deal can't be made he will be paid.

I don't agree with just giving him his money and releasing him. Why pay him to play against us. If we have to pay his full contract then make sure he can't play against us. Play him in Ron Massey cup. If an employer sees a guy as bad for a working group he is entitled to employ him in another section in the same role isn't he? Especially in an industry that is purely performance based judged by a coach

It won't go to court, unless he doesn't get what he's supposed to .
I know what the club is saying now, but that's no indication of how things will go when the crunch comes
Clubs ,like managers , don't always tell the truth.
Just ask Parra, Storm, parra again , ( Hopoate), The Dogs…..........it goes on and on

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

….........This is a coach problem why we are in a mess. And it will get worse whilst he is here..........

And last year we had a coach problem too remember? And a few years before that, remember?

There's something called called pattern recognition.

Here's a link you might find helpful: http://www.kidzone.ws/prek_wrksht/math-readiness/patterns.htm

"And it will get worse whilst **he** is here"

That's why the club is suggesting he should move on.

The solution is to Stop buying bargain bin coaches, you mostly get what you pay for,
The only real coach we had helped us to get a premiership,

 

[innsaneink]

Bargain bin coaches are all we can afford… And are the only ones that's willing to come here

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Maybe you could teach your kids the value of loyalty… Explain to them that in RL it only exists with the supporters nowadays... Players coaches don't know it
Teach them how you stick with your CLUB.. Thru good times and bad.. With decisions you agree and don't agree with
Teach them that players and coaches will come and go... The club.... As crap as it is s... Will remain
Its the easy way out to run away when things get hard... Sticking around thru the hard times makes the good times sweeter

Fight

... Or flight

Don't use the NRL as a guide to loyalty, there is no loyalty from the clubs to players , as we've seen over and over for years, and no loyalty from players.
Why should there be?
This is a professional sport that people have to earn enough for in some cases, for their future life.
Loyalty starts when a contract is signed an ends when it expires, or at least it should .
we've seen what can happens when a club wants to change its mind halfway through, and it's not the first example of it.

To clubs, this is a business, and the players have to do the same.
Best thing to hope for any kids is to tell them , if you sign a contract,
Then comply with that contract in the spirit it was signed, and don't try and change your mind halfway through, just because one party that signed were outclassed by the expertise at negotiating by the other party.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Like CGT, I cannot believe the club is now facing the possibility of at best an uncertain outcome in the court and all the humiliation and poor publicity that comes with it. Has anyone considered the possibility of team mates providing statements and evidence in support of Farah?

Has anyone considered the possibility that the "reasons aired at the meeting by Taylor were based on hearsay and lacked corroboration" was because the sources of that hearsay were other WT players that didn't want to be named at the time? I suppose we'll find out if it goes to court.

How is it going to court?
The club have consistently said that they will honour Farah's contract.

He can't sue the club because he's the best paid reserve grader in history lol.

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Read this article. If you believe this behaviour is part of the new "professionalism" in the club then it is a very sad reflection on the values of those who have treated Farah in this manner.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/farah-row-nrl-and-players-association-should-not-tolerate-situation-20150827-gj8wdi.html

Treatment of Farah, please
Just false claims and sensationalism by Mascord on something clubs do all the time, try to move a player on

Is Mascord going run the same piece on Soward?

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Bargain bin coaches are all we can afford… And are the only ones that's willing to come here

If things are as bad as they say, relocate and at least get something from the NRL to make it worthwhile,
start from scratch in Qld or Perth, and get rid of the loser tag that we currently have.
For what it's worth to get a team away from Sydney, the NRL would probably jump at the chance to have it happen, and come up with a decent package to make it work. Get the club into a one team town, rather than in the overcrowded Sydney.
Those who oppose voluntary relocation should open their eyes, as it may soon get to the stage that we are made to relocate, or to simply drop out of the competition completely. Better to have a reasonable team to watch live every second week or two, than to have no team at all.
If we can't afford to buy a decent Coach( and I agree that we probably can't), there's no use waiting for the fairy godmother, or Godfather , to sign an open cheque for us, it's all talk,
Nothing more
A good coach is now a must in this competition, and if we can't afford that, then we may as well, go somewhere where we will be able to Afford some quality players and a coach that thinks that going down the ladder isnt the direction that you need to go to win premierships.

 

[king_sirro]

Bargain bin coaches are all we can afford… And are the only ones that's willing to come here

If things are as bad as they say, relocate and at least get something from the NRL to make it worthwhile,
start from scratch in Qld or Perth, and get rid of the loser tag that we currently have.
For what it's worth to get a team away from Sydney, the NRL would probably jump at the chance to have it happen, and come up with a decent package to make it work. Get the club into a one team town, rather than in the overcrowded Sydney.
Those who oppose voluntary relocation should open their eyes, as it may soon get to the stage that we are made to relocate, or to simply drop out of the competition completely. Better to have a reasonable team to watch live every second week or two, than to have no team at all.
If we can't afford to buy a decent Coach( and I agree that we probably can't), there's no use waiting for the fairy godmother, or Godfather , to sign an open cheque for us, it's all talk,
Nothing more
A good coach is now a must in this competition, and if we can't afford that, then we may as well, go somewhere where we will be able to Afford some quality players and a coach that knows that going down the ladder isn't the direction that you need to go to win premierships.

Stuff that.

We have done our bit for the game by merging.

 

[tiger_one]

…......... Stuff that.

We have done our bit for the game by merging.

Here! Here!

We have already sacrificed.

 

[boonboon]

On Robbie and the playing NSW Cup. Now Cherrington is now the number 2 hooker for the worlds best team NZ while Robbie is prob the number 2 or 3 hooker for the 2nd best team in the world then you could say that if they are in the same club it is fair to pick Robbie in NSW cup

 

[sheer64]

On Robbie and the playing NSW Cup. Now Cherrington is now the number 2 hooker for the worlds best team NZ while Robbie is prob the number 2 or 3 hooker for the 2nd best team in the world then you could say that if they are in the same club it is fair to pick Robbie in NSW cup

I'll have what he's having!

 

[cqtiger]

Just an opinion on whether the players fully support the captain or the coach …

A number of years ago I was a production superintendent at a fairly large manufacturing company. Supervisors appeared upset with things going on in the company and wanted to raise issues with senior management. I told them that a meeting had already been arranged for all supervisors to raise any concerns.

As always, one supervisor was very vocal and kept stirring the other supervisors to back him up in the meeting.

To cut a long story short, when management asked all the supervisors if there were any issues that they should be aware of, the room stayed silent. I prompted the vocal supervisor to raise any of his concerns and he replied that "all was good".

When the meeting finished and people dispersed I walked outside, and sure enough, the vocal guy was remonstrating with the others about "issues".

Motto of that story is that most people pick and choose what to say and when to say it. Human behaviour.

So when I hear that the players are "solid" with one person or group over another, I am always sceptical.

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[Pawsandclaws]

Just an opinion on whether the players fully support the captain or the coach …

A number of years ago I was a production superintendent at a fairly large manufacturing company. Supervisors appeared upset with things going on in the company and wanted to raise issues with senior management. I told them that a meeting had already been arranged for all supervisors to raise any concerns.

As always, one supervisor was very vocal and kept stirring the other supervisors to back him up in the meeting.

To cut a long story short, when management asked all the supervisors if there were any issues that they should be aware of, the room stayed silent. I prompted the vocal supervisor to raise any of his concerns and he replied that "all was good".

When the meeting finished and people dispersed I walked outside, and sure enough, the vocal guy was remonstrating with the others about "issues".

Motto of that story is that most people pick and choose what to say and when to say it. Human behaviour.

So when I hear that the players are "solid" with one person or group over another, I am always sceptical.

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What actual knowledge do you have of how the players feel about Farah other than the photo from Bali of Farah, Tedesco, Brooks, Brown and our assistant coach enjoying a holiday and of course the Taupau article this morning ?

 

[Pawsandclaws]

On Robbie and the playing NSW Cup. Now Cherrington is now the number 2 hooker for the worlds best team NZ while Robbie is prob the number 2 or 3 hooker for the 2nd best team in the world then you could say that if they are in the same club it is fair to pick Robbie in NSW cup

A coach who is a smart operator would play both in the NRL next year and would have negotiated with Farah to have one more NRL year and then move to ESL. However, we don't have a smart operator but a dud.

 

[innsaneink]

So now we need to relocate

Some need a bex and a lie down… Seriously, some of the dramatics In this thread are way OTT

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So now we need to relocate

Some need a bex and a lie down… Seriously, some of the dramatics In this thread are way OTT

I just read someone on Facebook comparing him to a terrorist.

 

[stevetiger]

Bargain bin coaches are all we can afford… And are the only ones that's willing to come here

The board has to choose better then. JT is turning this club into a shambles at the moment. Admittedly there may be too much media beat-up and we don't really know a lot of the details however it sounds like Taylor not only can't coach but he is causing the players to rebel.

I'll be glad when Robbie goes because I'm sick of the drama but Taylor needs to do something quickly with regards to how he is managing this team. My expectations are that we perform to the best of our ability and we keep the players that we want to keep assuming we aren't paying massive overs.