Robbie - Gone as an attacking threat?
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tigermac88
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@vlad said:
Makes you wonder where it all started to go downhill for him
It must be remembered that Robbie only makes the side as long as he does what JT tells him, so effectively he has been neutered. It can't be easy to drop from captain to just another foot soldier, and I think he is doing as well as could be expected under the circumstances. The crunch will come if he is picked for origin and Ballin does better, but time will tell.
innsaneink
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@Plato said:
please
hank37w
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How do we know what the coach is telling him to do?
Maybe Tiger Torch can answer that, but his cover may have been blown by now.
Maybe Tiger Torch can answer that, but his cover may have been blown by now.
Masterton
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@matchball said:
1 line break assist and 7 offloads, the most behind Dave.
Joe_s_Tigers
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Give the guy a break. He had his best game of the season making over 130m, should of had a try assist( it should of been a penalty try) and was one of the Tigers best. He is only going to get better this season ( he has played only 5 games ).
It seems that people have nothing else to talk about.
It seems that people have nothing else to talk about.
I agree that he is probably lost some zip (I wonder if he has fully recovered from that knee issue) but to be fair a lot of what he used to was stand at first or second receiver and ball play. I think it's fair to say that he is now playing under instruction not to do this.
Also he was a focal point in attack and this also seems to have changed with his game being moved to ball distribution. He is much easier to read because his game now sees to revolve around dummy half scurries and passing from dummy half.
His kicking game is still very good though and given where the halves are, it is probably an area he should take more control.
Over the last few weeks he has developed a nice offload which has generated some second phase play( I don't get why others don't attempt this more?? Coaching instruction?)
Also he was a focal point in attack and this also seems to have changed with his game being moved to ball distribution. He is much easier to read because his game now sees to revolve around dummy half scurries and passing from dummy half.
His kicking game is still very good though and given where the halves are, it is probably an area he should take more control.
Over the last few weeks he has developed a nice offload which has generated some second phase play( I don't get why others don't attempt this more?? Coaching instruction?)
stevetiger
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@Joe's Tigers said:
He hasn't been bad at all this season. He has been one of our best but he isn't anywhere near a top level player in the comp. He also consistently makes poor choices in every game. He passed it to the ground on the 5th tackle when we were 10-20m from the Storm's goal line.
He is our best option at hooker and he can offer a lot but the money we spend on him would be better utilised on other players. I can't wait until he goes.
Love_the_WestsTigers
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He is improving slowly this year
Plenty of rounds to play
Agree, he is no longer the player he used to be
Perhaps age, perhaps everyone knows his game.
I always say, Once you get to the top there is only way one –-- Down..
Still, all the best to him for as long as he wears our jersey
Plenty of rounds to play
Agree, he is no longer the player he used to be
Perhaps age, perhaps everyone knows his game.
I always say, Once you get to the top there is only way one –-- Down..
Still, all the best to him for as long as he wears our jersey
Wow!!!!!!!!! Loved the highlight package, that really stood the hairs on the back of my neck up. The fact of the matter is that this team HSS been in transition for the last 4-5 years, now it wasn't suppose to take this long but due to circumstances it is what it is.
The footage on the video was when we were an ultra competitive team, fast forward to rd 7 2016 and we are a shadow of the team from that period.
Robbie's game on the weekend was fine in my eyes, and to compare Ennis and other hookers who are in competitive teams at present to his is totally unfair. At the end of the day its got to be up to our halves to take control of games and finish games off. We are just being too over critical of Farah as we are losing games.
The footage on the video was when we were an ultra competitive team, fast forward to rd 7 2016 and we are a shadow of the team from that period.
Robbie's game on the weekend was fine in my eyes, and to compare Ennis and other hookers who are in competitive teams at present to his is totally unfair. At the end of the day its got to be up to our halves to take control of games and finish games off. We are just being too over critical of Farah as we are losing games.
jirskyr
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@TYGA said:
I totally agree, I think this is very astute.
Robbie is a club legend but this has not been his best start to the year. He was injured obviously and I think at his age it takes longer to get back to form, even if he is getting 80 minutes out there.
I think there is a major problem developing with his distribution and the judiciousness of his passing. You are absolutely right that guys like Granville and Hodgson are really blowing games open with their dynamic play - the former with his darting runs and probing passes, the latter with his strength and ability to kick 40/20s.
Robbie used to be that guy, but right now he has neither of those items going consistently. He took a few good runs on Sunday but they were definitely hit-ups, not dummy-half darts. He NEVER jags penalties any more, but even back in the day he got about 10% of the penalties he was owed. He doesn't kick as much, though I think his short tactical kicking game is still good and useful.
But I do think his passing leaves something to be desired. Still seeing too many balls not on the breadbasket, halves having to jump up or lean forward. The best thing about Round 1 and our attack was how well Littlejohn got the ball out in front of the halves, himself passing like a halfback.
There were two glaring passes on the deck on Sunday, both I think from Robbie, both of which led to poor ends to the set.
Gary_Bakerloo
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@GNR4LIFE said:
Even then, and similar to Hindmarsh, he makes heaps of tackles, but there is no real sting. I noticed a few times on Sunday that the offender makes contact and Farah cushions the impact for a few metres. Compare that to how Sue hits in defence.
In the end, the question is as follows: slow service and heaps of tackles with Farah or quick service and potentially more missed tackles with Cherrington.
Not wanting to get into a Farah slanging match here. Just observations.
That video made it worse for me - I had forgotten how quick he was, how good his passes were and how good the kicking game was. Think what you said above jirskyr was pretty much what I see in Robbie now as well.
I was at the game on Sunday and I have never seen Robbie run that much in a game during his whole career. I know he made 130+ metres or there abouts which is good but as was said above they were mostly hit ups and not dummy half runs. I felt he overdid it a touch and would have been better getting a quick ball to the backs - some of his runs, whilst making ground seemed to jar the attack. A few times Teddy was up ready to join in with a chance of an overlap and he ran himself.
He has slowed down quite dramatically - that is ok, you expect that at 30+ but there is no reason not to pass off the ground to the halves. This scooping the ball with one hand, running two or three steps and then passing is not working. It is too slow and puts the receiver under enormous pressure. This did not happen in the first two games. There is no reason he can't adjust to quick passes, take his little runs every now and again and go back to his kicking game (unless the injury is preventing this). You can't leave it all to 6 and 7 - the Cowboys use Thurston, Morgan and Granville. The Broncos - Hunt, Milford and McCormack etc.
No doubt he is the best we have but when Ballin comes back and plays maybe 20 minutes per game it should then be obvious which way we should go. Cherrington and Liddle need a lot of time yet so they are really not in the equation for this year.
Someone said above that Ennis is playing better than Robbie - I think they are right but I would never admit it to anybody - that is really bad. I would rather hope Farah gets it together and people stop saying that stuff.
That video made it worse for me - I had forgotten how quick he was, how good his passes were and how good the kicking game was. Think what you said above jirskyr was pretty much what I see in Robbie now as well.
I was at the game on Sunday and I have never seen Robbie run that much in a game during his whole career. I know he made 130+ metres or there abouts which is good but as was said above they were mostly hit ups and not dummy half runs. I felt he overdid it a touch and would have been better getting a quick ball to the backs - some of his runs, whilst making ground seemed to jar the attack. A few times Teddy was up ready to join in with a chance of an overlap and he ran himself.
He has slowed down quite dramatically - that is ok, you expect that at 30+ but there is no reason not to pass off the ground to the halves. This scooping the ball with one hand, running two or three steps and then passing is not working. It is too slow and puts the receiver under enormous pressure. This did not happen in the first two games. There is no reason he can't adjust to quick passes, take his little runs every now and again and go back to his kicking game (unless the injury is preventing this). You can't leave it all to 6 and 7 - the Cowboys use Thurston, Morgan and Granville. The Broncos - Hunt, Milford and McCormack etc.
No doubt he is the best we have but when Ballin comes back and plays maybe 20 minutes per game it should then be obvious which way we should go. Cherrington and Liddle need a lot of time yet so they are really not in the equation for this year.
Someone said above that Ennis is playing better than Robbie - I think they are right but I would never admit it to anybody - that is really bad. I would rather hope Farah gets it together and people stop saying that stuff.
GNR4LIFE
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Love him or hate him, it's hard to argue against Ennis being the better player out of the 2 for at least the last 12 months. Can't stand Ennis, but he's gotten better with age. Farah has declined.
Chadman_s_Ghost
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Speaking of hookers that give a spark on the field, really like what i see out of Baptiste from Canberra. Quick service, busy… looks like a player that compliments the guys around him.
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