Round 1 Thoughts

[Blocker1963]

Having now watched the full game, Luke Brook's game management and general kicking was very poor, maybe just an off day, surely he will improve, but this will not help his confidence. Our forwards are not getting their heads through the line for a quick play the ball, Raiders forwards consistently did so. Jacob Liddle was good, but 80 mins is still beyond him. The sooner Moses MBye is not playing, the better, 950k , he's not worth 150k. Daine Laurie is going to be a great buy, and JTJ is only going to get better. Honourable mention, BJ needs to respect the Team, and what they are trying to achieve on the field.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Forum favourite Alex Seyfarth with a very impressive performance in reserve grade yesterday 

It was interesting that they kept him, they must of known what he is capable of, he’s only 21, so he has time on his side?

Seyfarth has always been a good prospect with the mix of size, pace and workrate. I expect him to develop and establish himself as an NRL forward.

 

[HowDugWT]

Having now watched the full game, Luke Brook's game management and general kicking was very poor, maybe just an off day, surely he will improve, but this will not help his confidence. Our forwards are not getting their heads through the line for a quick play the ball, Raiders forwards consistently did so. Jacob Liddle was good, but 80 mins is still beyond him. The sooner Moses MBye is not playing, the better, 950k , he's not worth 150k. Daine Laurie is going to be a great buy, and JTJ is only going to get better. Honourable mention, BJ needs to respect the Team, and what they are trying to achieve on the field.

I don't know. I feel Brooks's confidence is better and he wants to lead. Just made stupid decisions. And once we had field position he had no idea what to do.

 

[HowDugWT]

Highlights of our reserve grade yesterday. Jake Simpkin involved in absolutely everything, scoring one and setting up our other two

[Highlights Here](https://www.nswrl.com.au/news/2021/03/14/the-knock-on-effect-nsw-cup-highlights-raiders-v-magpies-round-1/)

He looked good didn't he....but geez how many soft tries did the magpies let in...

Watching that Simpkin over Liddle. The way he saw forwards and gave them a pass to walk over was amazing.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We were in it at half time but a lack of a will to win lost us the game. Garner smiling after giving away the penalty and Leilua an attempted arm grab on the Raiders' player when a no try was eventually called. These to me are symptoms both players lack the steel psychologically to win the tough games. Both need to be in ISP.

 

[barra]

We were in it at half time but a lack of a will to win lost us the game. Garner smiling after giving away the penalty and Leilua an attempted arm grab on the Raiders' player when a no try was eventually called. These to me are symptoms both players lack the steel psychologically to win the tough games. Both need to be in ISP.

Garner is getting caned for smiling but the reality is he was reacting to the irony of a soft penalty, then applauded the Canberra player for good acting.

No doubt that play was dumb in the first place though, happy to cane him about that!

 

[barra]

A poor result for sure and I attribute a lot of it to dumb plays, errors and continuing to attack with a flat line and no hard running. We created no space to work with.

The attack should be fixed easily but can we make our dumb players less dumb???

 

[jadtiger]

Forum favourite Alex Seyfarth with a very impressive performance in reserve grade yesterday 

It was interesting that they kept him, they must of known what he is capable of, he’s only 21, so he has time on his side?

Seyfarth has always been a good prospect with the mix of size, pace and workrate. I expect him to develop and establish himself as an NRL forward.

I have no idea how anyone could downvote this comment, as paws said he is young and could develop into a decent player.I have always maintained that young blokes need to be nurtured into first grade players and not just discarded because they dont hit the ground as a mature player.

 

[Herb Gardener]

The club hasn't been overly proactive with bringing on good juniors during the past decade. Resulting in us doing a reverse John West. We are left with what other clubs have rejected. Sometimes we've managed to get one back eg. Doueihi.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We were in it at half time but a lack of a will to win lost us the game. Garner smiling after giving away the penalty and Leilua an attempted arm grab on the Raiders' player when a no try was eventually called. These to me are symptoms both players lack the steel psychologically to win the tough games. Both need to be in ISP.

Garner is getting caned for smiling but the reality is he was reacting to the irony of a soft penalty, then applauded the Canberra player for good acting.

No doubt that play was dumb in the first place though, happy to cane him about that!

If true it confirms he is not concentrating on what he should concentrating on and the standard he should have maintained for the remainder of the game. I'm sure if it was Tamou he would have been angry with himself and wanting to make up for his ill discipline.

 

[twentyforty]

We were in it at half time but a lack of a will to win lost us the game. Garner smiling after giving away the penalty and Leilua an attempted arm grab on the Raiders' player when a no try was eventually called. These to me are symptoms both players lack the steel psychologically to win the tough games. Both need to be in ISP.

Not sure Garner was mentally prepared for this game? He also cheered the Raiders first try after having caused it.

 

[DGilly]

You can draw a direct link between Garner's missed tackles and numerous Raiders tries

 

[mike]

Just re-watched the game again and I have to say we got some really dud ref calls in the second half. Not saying that's why we lost but it certainly didn't help our momentum.

 

[Needaname]

I’m watching the game angain.
Ten Minutes in around the time of the first Canberra disallowed try.
I can make the following observations. And these might be controversial.

Firstly we have a young side.
Secondly we have a very inexperienced side.
Thirdly we have a couple of experienced players that are more individually talented and probably have never been the best team oriented players. Namely our centres.

Liddle. Tackled everything that moved. Effectively for the most part but missed a couple in the first 10 mins. Must of been up 20 tackles by then. Heavily target by the raiders. No doubt a tactic.

Tamou’s age and agility is exposed by our young side. He is very good with front on contact and is very strong in the ruck but side to side is a bit of a lumber Jack.

Twal on the other hand is a defensive weapon.

Lucy. Terrible defender. I’m starting to question whether we need to go down the Panthers Villiame Kikau path and play him less minutes and just for attack. He is in position but just doesn’t hit effectively.

Garner positionally is a terrible defender but that also doesn’t come as a surprise. The arm grabbing is last ditch because his out of position. But his contact when in position is actually decent.

BJs offloads. A tactic I’d say, Nofo did exactly the same for Jet. In the one close to the line Kepoa was almost a M in front to the side. Should of been back and ready.

Brooks kicking, poor yes. And the raiders kicking good, yes. However. The difference is the kick pressure. If you freeze frame every kick Brooks does he is off balanced or on the ground after his kicks. Then do the same when the raiders kick and you’ll see they have no one unsettling them.
With Doueihi being another option on the right and being able to organise the right side better than Moses I’d say both our boys will be better i
In this area.

Raiders tactics. Legal / illegal? Either way effective.
Hands on the ball in every tackle. Little nudges at the ball trying to make us running for meters and securing the ball very difficult. Legal.
Ruck play: One instance they had a player in an offside position and the dummy half scooted around him and then made a break. Illegal.
Dummy half holding pushing our tackling players away when trying to get up in the line.
I watched Rapana, run into dummy half and pretty much sit on Nofoaluma as he was trying to roll away knowing full well they would be opening up a weakness on the wing by him being caught on the ruck. Illegal play.

So all in all. Although defensively we held our line well. We still don’t do those one percenters.
Both our backrowers need to get up and down the 10 quicker and provide pressure on the kickers.

Brooks needs to stand back about a meter and across from the ruck when kicking.
I’m not sure why this hasn’t been pointed out. Him kicking so close to the ruck gives the defence plenty of target to get him, has him balled over and puts the other players offside. If his further away, he keeps his feet and can run the rest of the side back on side.

I’m hoping the coaching staff can spot these minor deficiencies and can correct them.

 

[Tiger5150]

Brooks needs to stand back about a meter and across from the ruck when kicking.
I’m not sure why this hasn’t been pointed out. Him kicking so close to the ruck gives the defence plenty of target to get him, has him balled over and puts the other players offside. If his further away, he keeps his feet and can run the rest of the side back on side.

I’m hoping the coaching staff can spot these minor deficiencies and can correct them.

This has been the case for years. He is so shallow compared to other halves when kicking.

 

[turkeytiger03]

We were in it at half time but a lack of a will to win lost us the game. Garner smiling after giving away the penalty and Leilua an attempted arm grab on the Raiders' player when a no try was eventually called. These to me are symptoms both players lack the steel psychologically to win the tough games. Both need to be in ISP.


Not sure Garner was mentally prepared for this game? He also cheered the Raiders first try after having caused it.

Yeah also saw that too, but was only cheering for Nofa thinking he grounded it first. He must like to clap a lot young Luke, he did the same when Brooks kick went out on the full from the restart.

 

[Needaname]

Asa Kepoas jumping style.
The attacking kick to the wing of Simonson at the 15th minute 1st half and the raiders try later in the game.
He is late to jump and almost try’s to jump around the player. You see him in exactly the same position when catching an a attacking kick as he would when catching an defending kick.

 

[Needaname]

Asa Kepoas jumping style.
The attacking kick to the wing of Simonson at the 15th minute 1st half and the raiders try later in the game.
He is late to jump and almost try’s to jump around the player. You see him in exactly the same position when catching an a attacking kick as he would when catching an defending kick.

I should also mention the shuffling feet of Curtis Scott in blocking BJ from getting involved.
Completely escorted off the ball.

What is the rule there? Is it not an escort penalty if the player moves position to obstruct the opposition but does not take them out?

 

[turkeytiger03]

I’ve rewatched the game and as I know not to blame him for this loss.... but referee Sutton does my head in!!!
Strange that he didn’t get the storm rabbits game 🤔

 

[TheDaBoss]

I’ve rewatched the game and as I know not to blame him for this loss.... but referee Sutton does my head in!!!
Strange that he didn’t get the storm rabbits game 🤔

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I looked at extended highlights.... and his calls r strange...to say the least....

Im still annoyed about his advantage interpret...raiders ran ruddy 15+m