LIVE GAME Round 13 v Bulldogs

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3 minutes into the second half, toupinua milked a set restart on the 5th tackle - it definitely wasnt a set restart.

5 tackles later, haywood dropped the ball and they claimed it was a bula rake - he never stripped the ball at all, it was his hand positioning from making the tackle.

The tigers defended 15 tackles on their try line before super star Galvin kicked the ball dead.

We lost the ball the next set, then the dogs finally scored when seyfarth was caught defending in the centres.

Tigers were 100% screwed in this passage of play. The sustained pressure led to a bulldogs try.

The bulldogs were given another set restart 3 tackles after the kick off.

A few minutes later Jack underhill strikes jarome in the face with his hand, whilst in possession of the ball - ive seen then given plenty of times, but nope, nothing.

Then Curran illegally hit the kicking leg of luai.

The tigers went on and scored, with no punishment to kiraz for the shoulder to turuvas head... accident or not, it was the 3rd or 4th attack on a wests tigers players head and not one was penalised.

Are we meant to believe the bulldogs are the most disciplined team in the nrl when it comes to set restarts? They played the perfect game?

On reflection, I think the tigers were screwed over more by the referees than the dogs. I wonder if anything goes to the MRC.. probably not..
 

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TheEnz said:
I'm not as salty as some on the calls from the ref, however when the bunker is involved i expect them to get it right....am i missing some thing here, is this not galvin losing control of the ball into turuva? and before anyone argues about a strip its not as turuva just holding the ball not stripping and at no stage does galvin re grip the ball.
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Any other team. Yes. The Wests Tigers its a stripping action.
 
Flippedy said:
Call me crazy but I, like Benji, have no problem with the officiating in that game. Sure we could’ve used a 6 again or two, but we won the penalty count comfortably which got us out of our own end a few times when we were struggling, as well as a gifted 2 points. The bunker rightly overturned 2 of their tries also, which rarely happens for us so I saw that as a bonus lol.

There were some dodgy calls both ways for sure, but hardly enough for either team to be whinging so loudly about, imo. It was a good contest and the better, more resilient team prevailed.
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I think all anyone ever asks for from the referees is that they're consistent and I think they achieved that tonight. They were consistently bad...
 
TheEnz said:
Used to like critta as a player, has become a massive grub in that dogs system. The longer he has been there his game has gone backwards as well. Kennel are talking about a rift with the Galvin faction vs the critta faction....that kid is poison if true.
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The Kennel hit the nail on the head with that one.
Luai and Crichton are best mates.
Galvin comes through the ranks at the Tigers, Luai brings him up to speed, gives him his spot, then Galvin craps all over him.
Galvin goes to the Dogs where Crichton has to watch his team mates move aside to accommodate him, and is told by Ciraldo to play second fiddle to Galvin.
That was never going to work with all the hatred bubbling under the surface.
 
Just finished a watch back after being at the game, the following stood out:
- no six agains for Tigers but should’ve had one the tackle before Curran charge down, where a fast play the ball saw markers standing next to each other (making them both offside) Api attacks one of the markers Underhill, he plays, no six again. Next tackle the charge down happens.
- Seyfarth falls/tackles into Twal, causing Twals injury. Twal was visibly filthy and had words with Seyfarth on his way off.
- Tupouniau clearly strikes both Laui and Turuva after he knocks on in 78th min
- big momentum swing was Madden kicking too deep and leading to a 20 restart with about 15 or so to go. He seem to kick poor after he kicked the ground in the second half with one of his kicks.
 
mtd#2 said:
3 minutes into the second half, toupinua milked a set restart on the 5th tackle - it definitely wasnt a set restart.

5 tackles later, haywood dropped the ball and they claimed it was a bula rake - he never stripped the ball at all, it was his hand positioning from making the tackle.

The tigers defended 15 tackles on their try line before super star Galvin kicked the ball dead.

We lost the ball the next set, then the dogs finally scored when seyfarth was caught defending in the centres.

Tigers were 100% screwed in this passage of play. The sustained pressure led to a bulldogs try.

The bulldogs were given another set restart 3 tackles after the kick off.

A few minutes later Jack underhill strikes jarome in the face with his hand, whilst in possession of the ball - ive seen then given plenty of times, but nope, nothing.

Then Curran illegally hit the kicking leg of luai.

The tigers went on and scored, with no punishment to kiraz for the shoulder to turuvas head... accident or not, it was the 3rd or 4th attack on a wests tigers players head and not one was penalised.

Are we meant to believe the bulldogs are the most disciplined team in the nrl when it comes to set restarts? They played the perfect game?

On reflection, I think the tigers were screwed over more by the referees than the dogs. I wonder if anything goes to the MRC.. probably not..
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You should definitely email this to ciraldo and ask him to include it in his email to the refs 🤣

🐯💪
 
TheEnz said:
Used to like critta as a player, has become a massive grub in that dogs system. The longer he has been there his game has gone backwards as well. Kennel are talking about a rift with the Galvin faction vs the critta faction....that kid is poison if true.
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Her's been a grub since the panthers. He is a koala ( protected species).
 
Flippedy said:
Call me crazy but I, like Benji, have no problem with the officiating in that game. Sure we could’ve used a 6 again or two, but we won the penalty count comfortably which got us out of our own end a few times when we were struggling, as well as a gifted 2 points. The bunker rightly overturned 2 of their tries also, which rarely happens for us so I saw that as a bonus lol.

There were some dodgy calls both ways for sure, but hardly enough for either team to be whinging so loudly about, imo. It was a good contest and the better, more resilient team prevailed.
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Apart from Galvins try not making the line, touching turf and he lost control of the ball
 
innsaneink said:
You think its a ridiculous rule when in the past weve seen some shocking injuries from this action which is why it was brought in
Thankfully Luai wasnt hurt tonite...it doesnt always end in an injury.....
The only thing predictable is your hypocrisy in targetting people discussing refereeing and you calling people sooks when you did the same thing the other night...and then pathetically tried to absolve yourself

Youre a joke...
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Insults people instead of debating the merits , thinks an opinion is a fact and is incapable of nuance or reasoning,,, but the WESTS TIGERS WON tonight so I’ll go to bed happy and imagining that Tuck is dutifully emailing Cameron Ciraldo to let him know that the Referees have no influence on the result and never make incorrect decisions ( and only losers and weak people blame them), unless it’s an Origin game that negatively affects qld or is a rule that he doesn’t like ! 🥳😂😜💯
 
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It has been an interesting afternoon scrolling through social media and seeing many dogs fans claiming to be robbed.

A few thoughts

-the Curran charge down is black and white. Only major difference is that Luai didn't take a dive like a certain half from Parramatta did a few weeks ago.
-in addition to this I don't think Curran grounded the ball. It looks like Bula performed another in-goal miracle
-Skelton's second try - it looks to me like Kiraz takes out Turuva. Turuva has his eyes on the ball the entire time. Kiraz only ever has eyes for the man and makes high contact. Watching it live I thought Turuva might have been offside, but it's hard to tell on that camera angle from beyond.
-Galvin let go of the ball on the way to the line, that's if he even made it there at all, and I don't think he did.
-7 0 on 6 agains. I've never seen a team so well disciplined that they have been square at marker all night, cleared the ruck without holding down and been consistenly onside all game.

Gough to me looked like he waited to outsource decisions to the bunker through challenges. For example the knock on/strip from KPP on Galvin. He blew the whistle even though we picked the ball up, it should have been play on but he blew the whistle to give Canterbury the chance to challenge.

Some calls went our way, but a lot more went the way of the dogs.

Really proud of the way they defended their line.
 
crazycat said:
Re Skelton.

Look he has his faults. If he did not play today, I don't think we would have won.

He crossed the line twice. We had tries scored against us, but we wern't run over.
Bigger problems to fix.
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With the style of footy we're playing Skelton and his dirty hitups are crucial. He got us on the front foot so many times last night and a lot of those times were from the kickoff.

As good as Luke L has been, he can hang in reggies until he's off to Perth.
 
Skelton has his faults but he's a decent finisher and is good at carting it up for a winger. Tino gets belted on just about every hit up, which makes Skelton's carries even more important.

Turuva is clearly our best winger but he's probably our best centre too until May gets back. So while I don't love moving him to left centre, but looks like that's what we're going to have to do. If To'a can defend like he did tonight, we'll be fine. If he can defend like he did tonight and overcome the elbow and fitness issues, he'll be in the team going forward.

Looks like we'll be missing Twal and likely Sione for the Penrith game. I suspect Roberts and Geyer will enter the rotation. Our depth is really being tested this year, but I'd rather play a team that will likely beat us anyway when we're short on troops, than a team that we would otherwise beat without the injuries.

Thought this was one of Luai's best games for us. Showed a lot of leadership with his defence and did some nice things down the left edge. He and Madden are still very much a work in progress. The left-right thing doesn't really work with a player like Madden who isn't creative nor a ball-runner. Still think the best footy we played this year was with Doueihi at 6 and Madden 7, but perhaps the Luai/Doueihi combo will work out if/when they get more reps together.

Overall a good result considering the officiating was so one-sided in the Dogs favour. It felt like their season was very much on the line and you can tell they were up for this game after we embarrassed them last year. Credit to our guys for keeping their cool and also toughing it out defensively, admittedly against a pretty lacklustre opponent.
 
TigerNeddyK said:
Insults people instead of debating the merits , thinks an opinion is a fact and is incapable of nuance or reasoning,,, but the WESTS TIGERS WON tonight so I’ll go to bed happy and imagining that Tuck is dutifully emailing Cameron Ciraldo to let him know that the Referees have no influence on the result and never make incorrect decisions ( and only losers and weak people blame them), unless it’s an Origin game that negatively affects qld or is a rule that he doesn’t like ! 🥳😂😜💯
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I can totally understand passionate emotional fans that wear their heart on their sleeve venting their frustrations in a live game thread

Imagine going to an Origin and expecting 65000 people (non footy people mind you lol) to be thinking critically about an incident which has been proved to be correct (Shoulder with force to the head)

Give me a fan that enjoys giving it to the opposition after a win compared to a "fan" who because they dont like a rule think its wrong....even if the coaches dont like it too, the non contacting a kickers leg rule has been in for a while now
Ciraldo: "Luai kicked Curran" lol...gimmee a break.

Targetting people that are showing emotion frustrated and venting at a vulnerable time is weak imo...the signs of a bully
 
pawsandclaws1 said:
Bula's try was so well put together and he has struck up a great combination with Pearce-Paul. Pearce Paul must be close to one of the most influential buys of the season.
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It went like clockwork....you can tell when a well rehearsed play comes off the coaches are always all really stoked.
Though KPP was a bit underutilised....needed to see more ball
 
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