LIVE GAME Round 14 vs. Raiders

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jadtiger said:
It was not Klein it was Gee who is another ref who always seems to give us a hard time.The refereeing standard has never been lower than it seems to have been in the during the last 5 years.It seems to me that referees are looking to achieve the result that they want instead of refereeing to the rules,i not sure if it is conscious or subconscious bias but it definately exists.
I did not like Harrigan Stone or Hartley when they were the number 1 refs but they were far better than thes current ones.Cechin was the last decent ref
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Yes, I just found out it was Gee. So I withdraw my earlier comments re Klein( but not Sutton) but still think we seem to cop it unfairly, at times.
 
I find it hard to believe that the NRL would hamstring one of its assets to afford greater success for another. Wests Tigers has a large supporters base. It would seem sabotage to piss that base off by constantly cheating it out of wins as is suggested. Good news stories for any sporting association is to have an underdog to ride the fortunes of. It brings more attention and viewers to the contest. Why would you kill these opportunities by fixing results to make sure the favourites win?
Is the implication here corruption through sports betting? Is it corruption through ‘glamour club’ bribery?
If someone can articulate why an organisation in the business of making money would do this, risking its reputation on an international scale, I am all ears and open to changing my mind. For now though, I’ll whinge about poor decisions with everyone else, but stop short of playing the victim that some sort of conspiracy is affecting the outcomes of my club most weekends. I can’t see the logic behind why they would do it.
 
TieDye said:
A horrendous mistake, it may have been. They literally changed the entire rule book to take away a win last year after full-time.

It was a technically not previously present in the game that they were forced to commit to as part of a post-game NRL effort - through refs ass./media - to create the illusion of two possible outcomes (in the Cowboys game) when in the moment it’s clear as day there isn’t.

The Wests Tigers were stripped a win AFTER full-time by a bit of creative direction through the bunker and again, involving one Ashley Klein and they were hammered pillar to post. Kasey Badger’s husband for example recently moved on from his post at our club…
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@Tucker keep up big dog
 
Tucker said:
I find it hard to believe that the NRL would hamstring one of its assets to afford greater success for another. Wests Tigers has a large supporters base. It would seem sabotage to piss that base off by constantly cheating it out of wins as is suggested. Good news stories for any sporting association is to have an underdog to ride the fortunes of. It brings more attention and viewers to the contest. Why would you kill these opportunities by fixing results to make sure the favourites win?
Is the implication here corruption through sports betting? Is it corruption through ‘glamour club’ bribery?
If someone can articulate why an organisation in the business of making money would do this, risking its reputation on an international scale, I am all ears and open to changing my mind. For now though, I’ll whinge about poor decisions with everyone else, but stop short of playing the victim that some sort of conspiracy is affecting the outcomes of my club most weekends. I can’t see the logic behind why they would do it.
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My point! You’ve missed it…
 
Tucker said:
I find it hard to believe that the NRL would hamstring one of its assets to afford greater success for another. Wests Tigers has a large supporters base. It would seem sabotage to piss that base off by constantly cheating it out of wins as is suggested. Good news stories for any sporting association is to have an underdog to ride the fortunes of. It brings more attention and viewers to the contest. Why would you kill these opportunities by fixing results to make sure the favourites win?
Is the implication here corruption through sports betting? Is it corruption through ‘glamour club’ bribery?
If someone can articulate why an organisation in the business of making money would do this, risking its reputation on an international scale, I am all ears and open to changing my mind. For now though, I’ll whinge about poor decisions with everyone else, but stop short of playing the victim that some sort of conspiracy is affecting the outcomes of my club most weekends. I can’t see the logic behind why they would do it.
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Again, you’ve mentioned match fixing. This entire subject flies right over you 😂

Nobody has said that. Not one person IRC?
 
Tucker said:
I find it hard to believe that the NRL would hamstring one of its assets to afford greater success for another. Wests Tigers has a large supporters base. It would seem sabotage to piss that base off by constantly cheating it out of wins as is suggested. Good news stories for any sporting association is to have an underdog to ride the fortunes of. It brings more attention and viewers to the contest. Why would you kill these opportunities by fixing results to make sure the favourites win?
Is the implication here corruption through sports betting? Is it corruption through ‘glamour club’ bribery?
If someone can articulate why an organisation in the business of making money would do this, risking its reputation on an international scale, I am all ears and open to changing my mind. For now though, I’ll whinge about poor decisions with everyone else, but stop short of playing the victim that some sort of conspiracy is affecting the outcomes of my club most weekends. I can’t see the logic behind why they would do it.
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While I find no disagreement with your logical and excellent post, the older I get T the more I see many things that don’t make sense and I must admit to going from logical and factual to a slight conspiracy leaning .
Maybe it’s age, frustration or just having a [This word has been automatically removed] to what I think a receptive audience, I’m not sure.
I guess that my comment has no real factual basis so will reserve judgement unless there is a further recurring theme. In which case you’ll be the first to know.
 
Tucker said:
I find it hard to believe that the NRL would hamstring one of its assets to afford greater success for another. Wests Tigers has a large supporters base. It would seem sabotage to piss that base off by constantly cheating it out of wins as is suggested. Good news stories for any sporting association is to have an underdog to ride the fortunes of. It brings more attention and viewers to the contest. Why would you kill these opportunities by fixing results to make sure the favourites win?
Is the implication here corruption through sports betting? Is it corruption through ‘glamour club’ bribery?
If someone can articulate why an organisation in the business of making money would do this, risking its reputation on an international scale, I am all ears and open to changing my mind. For now though, I’ll whinge about poor decisions with everyone else, but stop short of playing the victim that some sort of conspiracy is affecting the outcomes of my club most weekends. I can’t see the logic behind why they would do it.
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You don’t understand a cutthroat corporate ethos that’s clearly present in our competition… I’ve no idea how or why you’d sign up for armed forces.
 
TieDye said:
You don’t understand a cutthroat corporate ethos that’s clearly present in our competition… I’ve no idea how or why you’d sign up for armed forces.
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I do understand it, hence my stance.
I am quite aware that you have no idea but will tolerate your crap a little while longer for comedic value.
 
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Tucker said:
I do understand it, hence my stance.
I am quite aware that you have no idea but will tolerate your crap a little while longer for comedic value.
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Halbrowne61 said:
While I find no disagreement with your logical and excellent post, the older I get T the more I see many things that don’t make sense and I must admit to going from logical and factual to a slight conspiracy leaning .
Maybe it’s age, frustration or just having a [This word has been automatically removed] to what I think a receptive audience, I’m not sure.
I guess that my comment has no real factual basis so will reserve judgement unless there is a further recurring theme. In which case you’ll be the first to know.
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Conspiracy requires no proof. We’ve shown plenty… don’t be roped into joining his Anti-WT Forum Sheep association. Nearly as bad as saying the bunker "misses" the calls when head of their organisation has regularly apologised for their wrongdoing. One person in particular continues to be involved in these matters going against us. There’s evidence Ashley Klein cheats. This doesn’t equate to fairness which you continue to claim is us not truly supporting the Tigers or "playing the victim".

Tucker said:
Well then explain it. As you were asked to.
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Squadron lemon sounds about right… do you understand what ‘explaining’ means (and are actually looking to listen) or thinking about how to respond? I’d say the proof is in your wording.

You continue to say they’re making good cash as an organisation which for the finished product and most of it’s recent history is simply not true. It’s been demonstrated to you with some elements of proof and you claim to now not understand?
 
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Tucker said:
I do understand it, hence my stance.
I am quite aware that you have no idea but will tolerate your crap a little while longer for comedic value.
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Zero idea mate.

Saying I’m making jokes when you’re out of ideas 😂
 
TieDye said:
Conspiracy requires no proof. We’ve shown plenty… don’t be roped into joining his Anti-WT Forum Sheep association. Nearly as bad as saying the bunker "misses" the calls when head of their organisation has regularly apologised for their wrongdoing. One person in particular continues to be involved in these matters going against us. There’s evidence Ashley Klein cheats. This doesn’t equate to fairness which you continue to claim is us not truly supporting the Tigers or "playing the victim".


Squadron lemon sounds about right… do you understand what ‘explaining’ means (and are actually looking to listen) or thinking about how to respond? I’d say the proof is in your wording.

You continue to say they’re making good cash as an organisation which for the finished product and most of it’s recent history is simply not true. It’s been demonstrated to you with some elements of proof and you claim to now not understand? Understand what Stryke?
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There has been zero proof.
EVERY side cops bad calls sometimes.
Show me the systemic cheating of our club.
 
TieDye said:
Zero idea mate.

Saying I’m making jokes when you’re out of ideas 😂
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I’m not the one proclaiming we are being cheated out of wins.
You are talking in circles and providing zero evidence.
Exactly how conspiracy theorists behave. Your posts are a joke.
 
I'm getting tired of Refs or Bunker making bad calls that cost us the game .Annessley clearly states their 3rd try should have been no try . As such we scored 3 legal trys to their 2 tries . This is a FACT if that error hadn't occurred we win the game !!!
They don't make such critical errors against the glamour clubs.
I repeat since round 7 we have a good team beat Penrith ,Dragons , lost a close one 3 tries all to Manly .A record thrashing of Cowboys who just scored 45 pts against Storm ,and with correct calls would have ended Raiders 6 game winning streak .We have only one black spot in this period that's the souths game wheras our defence good holding the red hot Cody Latrell attack to one try for 70 odd minutes but ran out of gas in the last 10 mins and couldn't get our attack to finish off a lot of promising breaks that night
Last 6 games should have won 4 and unlucky close loss in one and one poor game
Not so bad . If we keep team together we will win a lot more games this year
 
Teams who have to fight hard for wins always feel the impact of poor ref calls than the teams who are at travelling at the top of the competition - you can be more philosophical about them when you are winning. When you are travelling poorly the difference between a win and a poor decision leading to a loss, might be your job.
 
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Tucker said:
There has been zero proof.
EVERY side cops bad calls sometimes.
Show me the systemic cheating of our club.
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You keep referencing ‘systemic cheating’ and rigging against us whereas the only accusations levelled with forms of proof on here are of subconscious bias and big-team mentality. This quite obviously affects some more than others and Klein is guilty. You’re the only one banging on about a conspiracy.

We’re talking about mere psychology.

I’m not sure that you understand what the majority of us are saying - that it’s clearly causing anti-WT results and sentiment. You continue to come back with questions such as: "why though?"

Also doesn’t in any way reflect me not meeting some standard of explanation regarding my own personal opinions on referees/human nature.

You must be ignorant to argue that?

Our collective opinion is wrong purely because you disagree, without any proof!
 
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The good sides cop their bad weekends with the officials as well. They all cop occasional howlers.
The difference is that they sometimes manage to win in spite of them.
The poor sides always lose in similar situations and therefore on the surface it reinforces their argument that they would have won without the howler. It is rarely true and an objective review will show many other opportunities were missed by that team.
 
Tucker said:
The good sides cop their bad weekends with the officials as well. They all cop occasional howlers.
The difference is that they sometimes manage to win in spite of them.
The poor sides always lose in similar situations and therefore on the surface it reinforces their argument that they would have won without the howler. It is rarely true and an objective review will show many other opportunities were missed by that team.
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True in this case and of several prior incidents involving Wests Tigers. Lmao
 
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