Round 18 Discussion *Spoilers*

@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229706) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229695) said:
Luai was better than Cleary tonight,,

Not by a long way. I was on that bandwagon for a long time because I hate the Clearys, but Cleary did everything tonight, from controlling the attack, to important momentum changing tackles to a perfect kicking game. Incredible watching such a dominant kicking game. Luai is good, and played a sort of early Benji role, but this game was all Cleary's.

Caught on tackle 5 on 5 occasions and Once on tackle 6 that was a turnover...

Penrith had a bazillion tackles in the Slimey's 20..ran away at the end...

Kicked the 40/20 and for Martin's TRY..

Luai created Penrith's 1st TRY and scored a solo one..

Brandy just said his kicking game was off..
 
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229718) said:
@Madge said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229714) said:
Tamou:
18 runs 158m
27 tackles 0 missed
40mins

Still didn't notice him.

You dont need to. That isnt going to be his role coming here. We need a experienced consistent leader out there for our other pigs. Its the young ones that are shining. He is doing his job.
 
I have to admit Tamou is still OK. Are the Panthers on some sort of supplements they are like 17 Rodney Howe's.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229716) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229707) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229693) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229689) said:
For all the ball they’ve had and the talent they’ve got, Penrith really struggling to crack Parramatta’s defence.

Yeah, but honestly there's a huge gap between these two teams. Penrith are so dominant. Incredible how physical they are in defense. Parra were not scoring tonight.

True, I must admit I never envisioned Penrith as ever being this good. I actually thought they missed their Premiership window opportunity a few years ago. I certainly didn’t think they would do this well with Cleary as coach.

They’re just more suited to play under the farcical 6 again rule than other sides

Actually, they're just much better at tackling than other teams. You look at how they belt other teams in defense. It's brutal and is the basis of their game. It kills the attacking play of other teams and grinds them down and Cleary's kicking game is unrelenting. I don't think the six again rule has much to do with their success.
 
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229723) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229716) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229707) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229693) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229689) said:
For all the ball they’ve had and the talent they’ve got, Penrith really struggling to crack Parramatta’s defence.

Yeah, but honestly there's a huge gap between these two teams. Penrith are so dominant. Incredible how physical they are in defense. Parra were not scoring tonight.

True, I must admit I never envisioned Penrith as ever being this good. I actually thought they missed their Premiership window opportunity a few years ago. I certainly didn’t think they would do this well with Cleary as coach.

They’re just more suited to play under the farcical 6 again rule than other sides

Actually, they're just much better at tackling than other teams. You look at how they belt other teams in defense. It's brutal and is the basis of their game. It kills the attacking play of other teams and grinds them down and Cleary's kicking game is unrelenting. I don't think the six again rule has much to do with their success.

They are so fast in defense, its crazy.
 
@Madge said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229714) said:
Tamou:
18 runs 158m
27 tackles 0 missed
40mins

Was watching him closely again covers everyone in defence, gets to marker, gets back and great line speed. Pretty much does everything we don’t do. Lacks explosiveness but around some
Powerful kids at Penrith he’s a great player. We
Need more than Tamou though it a 2 year deal is a good solid signing for us.
 
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229719) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229706) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229695) said:
Luai was better than Cleary tonight,,

Not by a long way. I was on that bandwagon for a long time because I hate the Clearys, but Cleary did everything tonight, from controlling the attack, to important momentum changing tackles to a perfect kicking game. Incredible watching such a dominant kicking game. Luai is good, and played a sort of early Benji role, but this game was all Cleary's.

Caught on tackle 5 on 5 occasions and Once on tackle 6 that was a turnover...

Penrith had a bazillion tackles in the Slimey's 20..ran away at the end...

Kicked the 40/20 and for Martin's TRY..

Luai created Penrith's 1st TRY and scored a solo one..

Brandy just said his kicking game was off..

That's fine, I'll take an off Cleary kicking game over just about every game I've seen from a wests tigers/Balmain half in thirty years.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

Who is that?
 
@TYGA said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229727) said:
@Madge said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229714) said:
Tamou:
18 runs 158m
27 tackles 0 missed
40mins

Was watching him closely again covers everyone in defence, gets to marker, gets back and great line speed. Pretty much does everything we don’t do. Lacks explosiveness but around some
Powerful kids at Penrith he’s a great player. We
Need more than Tamou though it a 2 year deal is a good solid signing for us.

Fast play the ball too.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

He was good
3 runs
10 meters
17 tackles
4 missed tackles
80 mins
 
@hobbo1 said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229737) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

He was good
3 runs
10 meters
17 tackles
4 missed tackles
80 mins

Decoys?
 
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229719) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229706) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229695) said:
Luai was better than Cleary tonight,,

Not by a long way. I was on that bandwagon for a long time because I hate the Clearys, but Cleary did everything tonight, from controlling the attack, to important momentum changing tackles to a perfect kicking game. Incredible watching such a dominant kicking game. Luai is good, and played a sort of early Benji role, but this game was all Cleary's.

Caught on tackle 5 on 5 occasions and Once on tackle 6 that was a turnover...

Penrith had a bazillion tackles in the Slimey's 20..ran away at the end...

Kicked the 40/20 and for Martin's TRY..

Luai created Penrith's 1st TRY and scored a solo one..

Brandy just said his kicking game was off..

I'd just add to my other comment that Cleary was better because he controlled the momentum of the play. He put Penrith in every position, he controlled the game, that's his role. To say Luai is the better player tonight because he setup two tries to one is like giving a winger the man of the match. And sure, sometimes Nofo can earn that, but Luai's play doesn't happen without Cleary contolling EVERYTHING, so it's just no comparison between the two of them tonight. Maybe Luai can play that way too, but that's not what he was doing tonight.
 
@gallagher said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229735) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

Who is that?

Channel 9 commentator, knows her stuff.
 
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229740) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229719) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229706) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229695) said:
Luai was better than Cleary tonight,,

Not by a long way. I was on that bandwagon for a long time because I hate the Clearys, but Cleary did everything tonight, from controlling the attack, to important momentum changing tackles to a perfect kicking game. Incredible watching such a dominant kicking game. Luai is good, and played a sort of early Benji role, but this game was all Cleary's.

Caught on tackle 5 on 5 occasions and Once on tackle 6 that was a turnover...

Penrith had a bazillion tackles in the Slimey's 20..ran away at the end...

Kicked the 40/20 and for Martin's TRY..

Luai created Penrith's 1st TRY and scored a solo one..

Brandy just said his kicking game was off..

I'd just add to my other comment that Cleary was better because he controlled the momentum of the play. He put Penrith in every position, he controlled the game, that's his role. To say Luai is the better player tonight because he setup two tries to one is like giving a winger the man of the match. And sure, sometimes Nofo can earn that, but Luai's play doesn't happen without Cleary contolling EVERYTHING, so it's just no comparison between the two of them tonight. Maybe Luai can play that way too, but that's not what he was doing tonight.

If he’s that good why does he go missing in Origin ?

Luai gives him the time to play just like Maloney did before .

Then add Korisau ( spelling ) to the mix
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229744) said:
@gallagher said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229735) said:
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

Who is that?

Channel 9 commentator, knows her stuff.

Yeah, I googled her, I know the face but didn't realise she was on 9. She's spot on with her opinion of el farto.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229745) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229740) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229719) said:
@watersider said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229706) said:
@Geo said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229695) said:
Luai was better than Cleary tonight,,

Not by a long way. I was on that bandwagon for a long time because I hate the Clearys, but Cleary did everything tonight, from controlling the attack, to important momentum changing tackles to a perfect kicking game. Incredible watching such a dominant kicking game. Luai is good, and played a sort of early Benji role, but this game was all Cleary's.

Caught on tackle 5 on 5 occasions and Once on tackle 6 that was a turnover...

Penrith had a bazillion tackles in the Slimey's 20..ran away at the end...

Kicked the 40/20 and for Martin's TRY..

Luai created Penrith's 1st TRY and scored a solo one..

Brandy just said his kicking game was off..

I'd just add to my other comment that Cleary was better because he controlled the momentum of the play. He put Penrith in every position, he controlled the game, that's his role. To say Luai is the better player tonight because he setup two tries to one is like giving a winger the man of the match. And sure, sometimes Nofo can earn that, but Luai's play doesn't happen without Cleary contolling EVERYTHING, so it's just no comparison between the two of them tonight. Maybe Luai can play that way too, but that's not what he was doing tonight.

If he’s that good why does he go missing in Origin ?

Luai gives him the time to play just like Maloney did before .

I'm not defending Cleary anymore because I hate him too! You guys rip in, but I know which half I'd take.
 
felt like a very bunched up game. I know Parra's defence was awesome but felt like they had 15 men on field. Slow ball movement, no space etc. Compare that to our 12 vs 11 yesterday.

Penrith will have to change up their game in the attacking 20. For the minor premiers, that attack was in shambles, especially with the full team.
 
@Spud_Murphy said in [Round 18 Discussion \*Spoilers\*](/post/1229732) said:
Alana Ferguson nailed it re Moses and his non-existence on the field when the game is on the line.

She reads our forum
 
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