LIVE GAME Round 26 v Raiders

[tigerballs]

Rubbish take.

We were clearly winning contact in this match until the point where we just couldn't withstand the dogshit run we were getting with the refs.

This was clear on the eye test and was supported by statistics - first half post contact metres, run metres, distance per set set, tackle busts, all well, well in our favour. We were getting numbers in tackles and swamping the.. When attacking Raiders line their edge defence was clearly up to early. Yet despite all this, we somehow ended up losing set restarts 4-1 in that half.

You can be sanctimonious all you like. However, refs are human and subjective biases are enormous in all elements of life. It is pretty foolish to discount that refs wouldn't be impacted in the small margins we are taking about when it comes to PTB speed.

100% that was rubbish. He can big note all he likes about his superior knowledge of the intricacies of the game and exactly how the ruck is refereed, even though there's nothing in writing about it, like in a rule book. Can he explain why rules that are in a rule book, like a forward pass that every fool can detect, are not enforced? Or why some rules, like a "roll ball" only enforced very occasionally?

 

[innsaneink]

Not surprised that weasel ref has been dumped....but shhhh 🤫🤫🤫....well do it quietly hope no one notices

 

[Halbrowne61]

Peter Gough our referee this week with Chris Butler video ref, and “ our” Belinda as one touchy and Ziggy the other.

 

[innsaneink]

Peter Gough our referee this week with Chris Butler video ref, and “ our” Belinda as one touchy and Ziggy the other.

Butler is our ref with noyen VR..unsmiling belinda one touchy

 

[gregjm87]

Don't reward a try from a bomb , reward it with restarting a 6 again Or just outlaw it to keep the ball passing thru hands .Im not a fan thou of constantly tinkering with the rule book

I think the tinkering with the rule book has created the problem. Defenders not being allowed to tackle the attacking team in the air is in my opinion the main reason why we are steadily seeing more bombs and likely to see more still. Though there are other contributing factors over the years, syntho balls, defences are better, 7 tackle sets for poorly weighted grubbers and the rise of the short drop out to name a few.
Anyway in my opinion the NRL messed up the rule. It is designed to stop players in the air having their legs taken resulting in getting flipped towards the ground. Just make this tackle specifically illegal. The defender also in the air is not a danger and shouldn't have to give up on the play.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

I think the tinkering with the rule book has created the problem. Defenders not being allowed to tackle the attacking team in the air is in my opinion the main reason why we are steadily seeing more bombs and likely to see more still. Though there are other contributing factors over the years, syntho balls, defences are better, 7 tackle sets for poorly weighted grubbers and the rise of the short drop out to name a few.
Anyway in my opinion the NRL messed up the rule. It is designed to stop players in the air having their legs taken resulting in getting flipped towards the ground. Just make this tackle specifically illegal. The defender also in the air is not a danger and shouldn't have to give up on the play.

As soon as the rule was announced I thought this would happen. I’m surprised it’s taken so long to be an issue.

What I also don’t get is what is the difference when a player dives high into the corner to place the ball down? Aren’t they in the air?

 

[Tucker]

What, cheer the Cowboys? You're a numbskull.

Cheer the Tigers you space cadet. Don’t sit there sulking like a loser.

 

[Merlot]

I think the tinkering with the rule book has created the problem. Defenders not being allowed to tackle the attacking team in the air is in my opinion the main reason why we are steadily seeing more bombs and likely to see more still. Though there are other contributing factors over the years, syntho balls, defences are better, 7 tackle sets for poorly weighted grubbers and the rise of the short drop out to name a few.
Anyway in my opinion the NRL messed up the rule. It is designed to stop players in the air having their legs taken resulting in getting flipped towards the ground. Just make this tackle specifically illegal. The defender also in the air is not a danger and shouldn't have to give up on the play.

Simples , defending player can be brought to the ground in a legal manner ,even when the attacking team plays the man ,not the ball

 

[gregjm87]

Simples , defending player can be brought to the ground in a legal manner ,even when the attacking team plays the man ,not the ball

Should be the case but the NRL usually to scared to walk back any rules that were put in place due to player safety. Even if in the opinion of many they have that rule wrong.

 

[gregjm87]

As soon as the rule was announced I thought this would happen. I’m surprised it’s taken so long to be an issue.

What I also don’t get is what is the difference when a player dives high into the corner to place the ball down? Aren’t they in the air?

Obvious difference is the body position when diving. It's more horizontal than vertical, so contact doesn't result in the flipping motion.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Obvious difference is the body position when diving. It's more horizontal than vertical, so contact doesn't result in the flipping motion.

Yes although they are still in the air? It’s an unlikely hypothetical but a defender could dive horizontal to catch a ball and that’s ok to be tackled?

 

[gregjm87]

Yes although they are still in the air? It’s an unlikely hypothetical but a defender could dive horizontal to catch a ball and that’s ok to be tackled?

Technically running is a motion that sees the both feet off the ground at the same time. So every second tackle is potentially a mid air tackle.
But The rule specifies off a kick. So a player diving in possession the rule does not apply to. A player diving horizontally to catch a ball it does. As I said it was specifically introduced to prevent the flipping motion with little thought given to any other consequences.

From the laws and interpretations book.
Mid-Air Tackle
It is illegal to tackle an opposing player attempting to field a kick on the full whilst the player is in mid-air.
The catcher must have returned to the ground before being tackled (See Section 15).

 

[Tiger-ferret]

Technically running is a motion that sees the both feet off the ground at the same time. So every second tackle is potentially a mid air tackle.
But The rule specifies off a kick. So a player diving in possession the rule does not apply to. A player diving horizontally to catch a ball it does. As I said it was specifically introduced to prevent the flipping motion with little thought given to any other consequences.

From the laws and interpretations book.
Mid-Air Tackle
It is illegal to tackle an opposing player attempting to field a kick on the full whilst the player is in mid-air.
The catcher must have returned to the ground before being tackled (See Section 15).

Thanks for posting this. Makes it much clearer for me 👍🏻

 

[tigerballs]

Cheer the Tigers you space cadet. Don’t sit there sulking like a loser.

How do you cheer for a team when they're having tries scored against them? You must have a very unique cheering style.

 

[tigerballs]

Rubbish take.

We were clearly winning contact in this match until the point where we just couldn't withstand the dogshit run we were getting with the refs.

This was clear on the eye test and was supported by statistics - first half post contact metres, run metres, distance per set set, tackle busts, all well, well in our favour. We were getting numbers in tackles and swamping the.. When attacking Raiders line their edge defence was clearly up to early. Yet despite all this, we somehow ended up losing set restarts 4-1 in that half.

You can be sanctimonious all you like. However, refs are human and subjective biases are enormous in all elements of life. It is pretty foolish to discount that refs wouldn't be impacted in the small margins we are taking about when it comes to PTB speed.

After watching this Manly Warriors debacle, everything that clown said about winning the ruck etc, has been proven to be absolute crap.

 

[Tucker]

How do you cheer for a team when they're having tries scored against them? You must have a very unique cheering style.

You rev them up to lift in their next set after points.
Do you only go there to cheer tries and boo everything else?