Spud_Murphy
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Round 3 **Live game thread v Dogs**
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Was confident we'd get the 2 points, so pretty gutted with that result. Same old Tigers.
Great win by the Dogs. Think they outmatched as in pretty much every aspect of the game.
It was too little and too late before any impact or effort was felt from us.
Once our interchange was affected, it felt like every single player struggled at various points throughout the match and were merely passengers. I actually think only Twal was fantastic from start to finish.
The biggest disappointments for me were Brooks, Jennings and captain (un)courageous Mbye. Brooks has reverted. Jennings doesn't offer anything and Mbye was totally useless.
I honestly don't care who our 5/8 is next week. Reynolds or Benji?…Only a team like us would be stuck with this conundrum.
Our goalkicking needs to be addressed and Brooks could seriously use a halves coach. He has both Benji and RF to look up to/use/draw upon for experience to further develop his game, but it's clearly not the right solution for him.
Great win by the Dogs. Think they outmatched as in pretty much every aspect of the game.
It was too little and too late before any impact or effort was felt from us.
Once our interchange was affected, it felt like every single player struggled at various points throughout the match and were merely passengers. I actually think only Twal was fantastic from start to finish.
The biggest disappointments for me were Brooks, Jennings and captain (un)courageous Mbye. Brooks has reverted. Jennings doesn't offer anything and Mbye was totally useless.
I honestly don't care who our 5/8 is next week. Reynolds or Benji?…Only a team like us would be stuck with this conundrum.
Our goalkicking needs to be addressed and Brooks could seriously use a halves coach. He has both Benji and RF to look up to/use/draw upon for experience to further develop his game, but it's clearly not the right solution for him.
4jtigers
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@Russell said:
where is the smiley emoticons? I didn't want to reply - I just wanted to have those emoticons to show that I agree with the comment and LOL too.
Was it just me or were the dogs given way more time slowing our play the ball down yesterday? Most tackles had a dogs player still hanging on while we were playing the ball and also I lost count if how many times a dogs player was lying in the middle of the ruck while our hooker had to step over them to pass the ball out.
Harvey
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Yep and it was a very skinny 10\. Referees are not giving penalties anymore, even when they are deserved.
GNR4LIFE
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Not sure how we address the goal kicking. We’re stuck with 2 average goal kickers. That’s not going to change.
jirskyr
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I was thinking the same thing yesterday.
Going into the match it was definitely a danger game, as Dogs were trying to put their season back on track and Pay had obviously made a number of changes - which either encourages or discourages players, you can't really pick it.
Tigers were average and did not respect possession enough - Dogs scored basically off 4 bad plays and I think we gave them about 12 bad mistakes to chew on. E.g. Brooks poor offload x 2, Fonua STUPID offload x 1, Mikaele failing to trail on the inside.
Dogs respected their possession and hung in the game, played tougher and with more energy. Kieran Foran is busted but when he's near the line he surges with all possible energy, whereas the Tigers players spent most of the game just cruising around.
Obv losing Garner and Fonua early hurt, the reshuffle appeared to tire a number of players and the bench was basically blunted - Mikaele, Aloiai, MCK all struggled with the task in front of them. MCK in particular, he will play good minutes but his speed in attack and defence is poor - he'll just plod up and back making his tackles and hitups, but it doesn't threaten the opposition. But also, he's only had 10 minutes in the prior 2 matches.
I still think Tigers were clearly the better quality side, they just didn't play adequately to convert that quality. Second half was 8-4, which bar the 13 minutes before HT I felt was fairly indicative of how the match was going.
Anyone who says Dogs were all over us or totally outplayed us wasn't paying attention for the full 80 mins, because we had them covered for 60 of the 80 minutes.
But as Geo says, you can't afford to drop a terrible 20 mins in a game and still come out on top. Watch Melbourne Storm and see a team that knows how to stay in a match for 80 mins.
Last thing I'll say is that the refs are not policing the wrestle in 2019 and Dogs REALLY pushed the boundaries on that all match - tonnes of lying in the ruck and hands on football. Even the play where Marsters was called for bad PTB but Rhyse Martin was literally lying in the ruck, which he cannot do, even if the PTB was poor, it is influenced by a man lying next to the ruck and making no attempt to roll away. We did not control the ruck as effectively as Dogs did.
All the same, 2 wins 1 loss out of every 3 games will be enough to play finals. It's the same old story with Tigers every year - the capability is there, it just needs to be produced consistently over a full season.
Going into the match it was definitely a danger game, as Dogs were trying to put their season back on track and Pay had obviously made a number of changes - which either encourages or discourages players, you can't really pick it.
Tigers were average and did not respect possession enough - Dogs scored basically off 4 bad plays and I think we gave them about 12 bad mistakes to chew on. E.g. Brooks poor offload x 2, Fonua STUPID offload x 1, Mikaele failing to trail on the inside.
Dogs respected their possession and hung in the game, played tougher and with more energy. Kieran Foran is busted but when he's near the line he surges with all possible energy, whereas the Tigers players spent most of the game just cruising around.
Obv losing Garner and Fonua early hurt, the reshuffle appeared to tire a number of players and the bench was basically blunted - Mikaele, Aloiai, MCK all struggled with the task in front of them. MCK in particular, he will play good minutes but his speed in attack and defence is poor - he'll just plod up and back making his tackles and hitups, but it doesn't threaten the opposition. But also, he's only had 10 minutes in the prior 2 matches.
I still think Tigers were clearly the better quality side, they just didn't play adequately to convert that quality. Second half was 8-4, which bar the 13 minutes before HT I felt was fairly indicative of how the match was going.
Anyone who says Dogs were all over us or totally outplayed us wasn't paying attention for the full 80 mins, because we had them covered for 60 of the 80 minutes.
But as Geo says, you can't afford to drop a terrible 20 mins in a game and still come out on top. Watch Melbourne Storm and see a team that knows how to stay in a match for 80 mins.
Last thing I'll say is that the refs are not policing the wrestle in 2019 and Dogs REALLY pushed the boundaries on that all match - tonnes of lying in the ruck and hands on football. Even the play where Marsters was called for bad PTB but Rhyse Martin was literally lying in the ruck, which he cannot do, even if the PTB was poor, it is influenced by a man lying next to the ruck and making no attempt to roll away. We did not control the ruck as effectively as Dogs did.
All the same, 2 wins 1 loss out of every 3 games will be enough to play finals. It's the same old story with Tigers every year - the capability is there, it just needs to be produced consistently over a full season.
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